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Help Needed: Duplicate Emails Keep Coming Back

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Todd

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Jul 5, 2009, 1:40:28 PM7/5/09
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Hi there.

In the last couple of days, I am getting duplicates of emails I've
already downloaded. Even if I delete them, they come back multiple
times. This is very strange, since I don't keep them out on the
server. And they are also coming down as unread.

Any thoughts on how to correct this problem?

Thanks.

Todd

Steve Urbach

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Jul 5, 2009, 3:29:39 PM7/5/09
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Delete from server enabled (in some form) ?
Do you have the "Server Status" set to show in you mailboxes?
What does it show ?

Are they only from certain "Senders", it might be their problem resulting in
multiple sends.

Todd

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:50:14 AM7/6/09
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No, it's giving me a duplicate of everything from several days back. I
have Eudora 5.1 set to delete from the server when I empty the trash
or after 5 days. I've deleted these duplicates a couple times
already.

I'm wondering if it has to do with Earthlink's redesign of their
webmail. It seems to be coinciding with that.

Todd

Steve Urbach

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Jul 6, 2009, 10:20:06 AM7/6/09
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I will have to check with the "Wife Unit", she has the 5.1 on EL,
I use 7.1 and don't see the problem (probably because I did not leave on
server in the first place for my "home" PC, but I will try (7.1) with my
portable to see what happens.
I thought the only thing that EL changed was the Web Mail Look + Feel (I like
it).. I will get back after my tests.

Steve Urbach

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Jul 6, 2009, 12:55:38 PM7/6/09
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:20:06 -0700, Steve Urbach
<drago...@NOTmindspring.com> wrote:

OK I tried it with 6.1 (my laptops version).
Deleted mail
Checked Web Mail, the item was still on server.

Fetched new EL mail, deleted did not come back.
Emptied Trash (set to NOT delete mail on server)

Fetched mail. No duplicates.

HTH
Not quite your setup

John H Meyers

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Jul 6, 2009, 2:17:27 PM7/6/09
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On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 23:50:14 -0500, Todd wrote:

> I have Eudora 5.1 set to delete from the server when I empty the trash
> or after 5 days.

Then it remains possible to repeatedly download any message
for up to those five days, while it remains on the server.

> I'm wondering if it has to do with
> Earthlink's redesign of their webmail.
> It seems to be coinciding with that.

Any server which is inconsistent
in presenting identical "unique IDs" for each message,
session after session, can cause mail clients
to re-download messages left on server,
whenever the IDs remembered from past sessions
fail to match up with IDs provided in the current session.

The "unique" ID is an arbitrary string,
unrelated to "Message-ID" headers,
which any server can assign arbitrarily,
so long as it maintains consistency.

When we updated our POP server at one particular time,
the new software generated different IDs than the old software,
and all of our users who had left mail on server
(including some who had up to a thousand messages)
were thus treated to a re-download of every message left on server,
but in this case only the first time they connected to the new software,
because after that, the new software remained consistent with itself.

It is also possible to have local problems on one's own computer,
such as losing or not being able to store one's local lists (LMOS.DAT files)
of message IDs still on servers, which can produce the same end result.

In Eudora, changing the name of any POP server will make Eudora believe
that it isn't the same server as used before, which will also start to use
a different list of saved IDs, again with similar result.

Eudora 5.1, by the way, is so old that it can not even handle
a fair number of updated modern servers, so why not update it?
See the various Eudora release notes for the vast number of fixes,
added capabilities and improvements which have since been made.

--

Todd

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Jul 8, 2009, 2:45:36 AM7/8/09
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On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:55:38 -0700, Steve Urbach
<drago...@NOTmindspring.com> wrote:


The problem seems to have gone away over the past day or so. Sometimes
these things just clear up on their own.

Thanks for checking.

Todd

Todd

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Jul 8, 2009, 2:47:25 AM7/8/09
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I guess I've been superstitious about upgrading from 5.1 since it's
been mostly reliable over the years. I've got my parents on later
versions, however, so there's really no reason not to upgrade.

I'll get around to it one of these days. :-)

Todd

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