Thunderbird vs Eudora?
Frank
paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
that have.
Frank
bsts
I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
<http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope> to eventually give me a Eudora look
<http://eudorabb.qualcomm.com/showthread.php?t=10979>.However, the
filtering
and general email handling is great. Thunderbird has all the tools if
you want them (think extensions & add-ons just like Firefox) but works
well right out of the box.
Good luck!
Frank
Thanks. Looks fairly similar to me. My wife, OTOH, is extremely
resistant to change. She won't even let me load my Eudora 6.1 over
her old Eudora on her machine.
Frank
Big Bill
<better.safe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Jun 17, 7:16 am, Frank <frank.logu...@dol.net> wrote:
>> Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
>> paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free. Have new
>> Vista OS and while Eudora is working OK it has minor problems. When I
>> downloaded Thunderbird it took in all my Eudora mailboxes and messages
>> but I have not switched to it and thought I would ask advice of those
>> that have.
>> Frank
>
>I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
><http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope>
How goes Penelope?
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Tim Green
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> On Jun 17, 10:06 am, bsts <better.safe.than.so...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Jun 17, 7:16 am, Frank <frank.logu...@dol.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Wondering how Mozilla Thunderbird and Eudora compare. I have both: a
>> > paid version of Eudora 6.1 and Thunderbird 2 which is free.
...
I am a long-time Eudora user and I tried Thunderbird some time ago. The
interface wasn't too unpalatable but I did find one thing terminally
frustrating.
In Eudora, I have things set up so I compose a message and queue it. It
doesn't get sent until I am ready. This has saved my bacon a number of
times, as I sometimes go back a check/change messages before I actually
send them.
In Thunderbird, if I remember correctly, there was an "online" mode (where
messages were sent as soon as composing finished) and an "offline" mode
(similar to my preferred mode in Eudora). Thunderbird kept going into
online mode whenever I sent messages and wouldn't default to offline. I
had to go to some third party site to download the right buttons and
plugins to make it do almost what I wanted, but I could never find a way
to make it stay in offline mode.
Anyone know if things have changed recently in this regard?
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Toby
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> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 07:06:46 -0700, bsts
> <better.safe...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>...
>>
>>I truly despise the Thunderbird interface so I am looking to Penelope
>><http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope>
>
> How goes Penelope?
>
Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough for
me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large, unreadable
mail file (like Outlook and .PST files). As Eudora's simple text-based
files have allowed me to recover mail from damaged files on a number of
occasions, I'm sticking with it.
Toby
John H Meyers
> Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough
> for me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large,
> unreadable mail file (like Outlook and .PST files).
This is very un-Thunderbird like; TB (v1) uses individual readable files,
much like Eudora, so I wonder how such a radical change arose?
> As Eudora's simple text-based files
> have allowed me to recover mail from damaged files
> on a number of occasions, I'm sticking with it.
Eudora's simplicity
(and the easy maintainability and flexibility this creates)
is indeed often a life-saver, but its virtues
don't become apparent until one looks under the hood,
which most users probably never do.
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Toby
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> On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 10:21:08 -0500, Toby wrote:
>
>> Tried Penelope a few weeks back. The interface was Eudora-ish enough
>> for me. But - and it is a big one - it stores all mail in a large,
>> unreadable mail file (like Outlook and .PST files).
>
> This is very un-Thunderbird like; TB (v1) uses individual readable files,
> much like Eudora, so I wonder how such a radical change arose?
Ooops! My mistake.
TB does have separate files for mail folders (like Eudora) but it stores
attachments inside them, in MIME format, (like Outlook). That is what I
meant - and why I am not using Penelope.
> Eudora's simplicity
> (and the easy maintainability and flexibility this creates)
> is indeed often a life-saver, but its virtues
> don't become apparent until one looks under the hood,
> which most users probably never do.
Agreed.
Toby
John H Meyers
> TB does have separate files for mail folders (like Eudora)
> but it stores attachments inside them, in MIME format
Oh yes, I neglected to add that point,
that each entire original "raw" message
includes all its MIME parts (if sent that way).
As a side note, one of WinZip's many extra features
is the ability to recognize, separate, and decode
MIME-formatted messages (and even an entire
mailbox file of them), so you can take a copy
of any such "mailbox" file, rename it to xxxxx.mim,
then open it with WinZip, and you'll get a contents list
including all the individual messages and MIME parts,
and you can extract any individual attachment(s),
without even bothering to install TB.
WinZip's internal log of operations will even identify
the subject of each message!
This works to some extent on Eudora mailboxes as well,
but Eudora's attachment stripping (or other alterations)
may produce a bunch of error messages about not finding
the "terminal" boundary string on some messages.
I believe that you can also "import" a TB mailbox file
by just shoving it into your Eudora data folder,
with a .mbx extension, although any attachments
will still be embedded. I haven't tried
"exporting" from Eudora to TB, however.
At least TB provides a way to wean people off OE,
which is needed in our shop, because of how bad
(and now unsupported) is OE, which can't even
store POP mail on our common file servers.
The most sophisticated users, however,
of course go for the best, and use Eudora :)
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Big Bill
Where is Penelope these days? I didn't realise there was a tryable
version.
Toby
> Where is Penelope these days? I didn't realise there was a tryable
> version.
Try here:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/4772
There's also a wiki where it is discussed:
http://wiki.mozilla.org/Penelope
Toby
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