SPAM - Hitting their admin...
Sean Ennis
[btw - don't think that I am singling out earthlink.com here... they just
happen to be a handy example]
I guess that manyh of us get spam-mail regularily from one source (in my
case earthlink.net). While I'm sure this has been suggested... what about
hitting their admins up (and bouncing every piece of spam BACK to them).
Now I'm not talking mailing to root or postmaster @ofending site. I'm
sure many of those are just redirected to /dev/null and they never have to
deal with it. Instead, direct it to the contacts from the 'whois' database.
For example - I gets lots of mail from earthlink.com/earthlink.net. They
admins have never responded. And the mail keeps comming. So they allow their
own users to make our accounts un-usable... lets make theirs un-usable (I'm
not talking sending them core files - just bouncing their own spam back to
them).
For earlink.net the only contact appearts to be:
hostm...@EARTHLINK.NET
- the domain admin....
For earthlin.com (same company as earthlin.net as far as I can tell):
hostm...@EARTHLINK.NET, s...@EARTHLINK.NET, ly...@EARTHLINK.NET
tech contact admin contact bliing contact
Admitedly the billing contact normaly doesn't have very much control over
the users, but we might as well make her life miserable as well (she can
bitch at her admin about all the mail). And if they decide to switch accounts,
well it's going to show up in the 'whois' database again anyways. We just
update who this mail gets forwarded to.
Thoughts..... lies.... omitions....?????
Sean Ennis
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(here is all the info that _I_ found in the whois database - the phone numbers
might also be usefull).
[Earthlink.net]
EarthLink Network, Inc. (EARTHLINK-DOM)
3171 Los Feliz Blvd, Suite 203
Los Angeles, CA 90039
Domain Name: EARTHLINK.NET
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
EarthLink Network, Domain Admin. (ELN-DA) hostm...@EARTHLINK.NET
tel.: 818-296-2400 http://www.earthlink.net
Record last updated on 12-Jan-97.
Record created on 06-Jun-94.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.2
NS2.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.79
NS3.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.60
NS4.EARTHLINK.NET 140.174.173.23
The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
EarthLink Network, Inc. (EARTHLINK2-DOM)
3100 New York Drive
Pasadena, CA 91107
Domain Name: EARTHLINK.COM
Administrative Contact:
Dayton, Sky (SD776) s...@EARTHLINK.NET
(818)296-2400
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
EarthLink Network, Domain Admin. (ELN-DA) hostm...@EARTHLINK.NET
tel.: 818-296-2400 http://www.earthlink.net
Billing Contact:
Hernandez, Lidia (LH1267) ly...@EARTHLINK.NET
818 296-2400 X 2485 (FAX) 818 398 5408
Record last updated on 19-Dec-96.
Record created on 06-Dec-94.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.2
NS2.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.79
NS3.EARTHLINK.NET 206.85.92.60
NS4.EARTHLINK.NET 140.174.173.23
The InterNIC Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet Information
(Networks, ASN's, Domains, and POC's).
Please use the whois server at nic.ddn.mil for MILNET Information.
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Ralph Johnston
Not bad of an idea.......with nothing written in the message--only Return
to Sender in the subject line.......and if the spam isn't from
them.....forward it to them anyway......with a polite note stating that the
spammer is using a competitor and hope they appreciate you refering to them
a possible customer.
Hot damn....even Sanford can't complain if people start refering possible
customers that are using competative services......you could even ask him
to send you five dollars for each lead that becomes a
customer......uuhh...but that would be spamming.....wouldn't it?....oh,
well.....do it for free!!!
Ralph Johnston...@yellowhead16.net
Sean Ennis <nospam...@mail.escape.ca> wrote in article
<5io9ak$p...@wpg-01.escape.ca>...
: [btw - don't think that I am singling out earthlink.com here... they just
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: (here is all the info that _I_ found in the whois database - the phone
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Don Sterner
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:03:18 GMT, orionca said.....
snip....
>Why can't they predict ahead of time? ISPs do not keep a Master List of
>Bad People. If John Doe of Deerborn MI, operating as
>homos...@mindspring.com got kicked off of Mindspring for spamming, he
>can open fagg...@aol.com the same day and spam some more. AOL has no
>way of knowing that he's a spammer until the complaints flood in that
>evening. Even if Mr. Doe IS a well known spammer, all he has to do is
>have his wife Jane open the account with a VISA card in her name only.
Is it really that difficult for an ISP to add a hook to their mail server
which waves a red flag when a user sends more than 50 (100) emails/day? Seems
like it'd be a relatively easy task. Commercial customers who are sending
legitimate email in large numbers can be automaticially bypassed as would be
appropriate.
Seems to me that the ISP who WANTS to control this crap can do it if he
wishes.
Scheherazade
On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:03:18 GMT, ori...@earthlink.net (orionca) wrote:
>Well, you can always try ab...@earthlink.net if you really want to
>annoy them.
>
>Earthlink has been nuking them about as fast as they are reported;
This is complete bullshit. Over the last month, I've sent dozens of
complaints (one for each spam encountered) to ab...@earthlink.net,
postm...@earthlink.net and sp...@earthlink.net. All I've got back in return
is an auto-responder message; Earthlink has taken absolutely no actions on the
spammers as far as I can see, because the spam continues unabated with
absolute impunity.
I've also sent msgs to all of Earthlink's upstream servers, asking them for
cooperation in putting pressure on Earthlink to take action; I've sent
messages to Earthlink's support department, accounts department, asking for
help in the hope of reaching a human being who actually reads the mails I
sent. No results whatsoever.
I've also asked all my fans at a.b.p.e.scheherazade who are earthlink
customers to complain to their support personnel, and I know of at least 3
who've done so, again without having any effect.
If you're really concerned about Earthlink (or if you're a staff of
earthlink), then I hope you bring this to your admin's attention. I can send
you a listing of spams if you need it.
Best regards,
Scheherazade
<dra...@super.zippo.com>
rock...@xtra.co.nz
i can't stop the arsehole spammers sending me "CRAP" but then again i
can't seem to get my e-mail address off my postings .
Hang All of them
GREGSUTTON
In article <335eba36...@snews.zippo.com>,
dra...@super.zippo.spam_block.com (Scheherazade) writes:
>Subject: Re: SPAM - Hitting their admin...
>From: dra...@super.zippo.spam_block.com (Scheherazade)
>Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 06:55:51 GMT
>
>
>On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:03:18 GMT, ori...@earthlink.net (orionca) wrote:
>
>>Well, you can always try ab...@earthlink.net if you really want to
>>annoy them.
>>
>>
Create a new mailbox called SPAM and then create a filter that will check
the'from:' for 'contains' earthlink.net, and if you see that it may be a
fake from address then also select 'or' 'any header' and 'transfer' not
copy to the SPAM mailbox as not to mess up regular trash. Create a filter
for each one you want to not look at.
Greg Sutton
Kemma Software Field Test Coordinator
Project: Bridge HD Next Upgrade Determination Field Test
e-mail: gr...@kemma.com
phone: 315-684-7001
Kemma Software
114 Orchard Avenue
Glenshaw, PA 15116
phone: 412-492-1141
fax: 412-492-1142
e-mail: jeffm...@kemma.com
http://www.kemma.com
A55
In article <335b418d...@news.xtra.co.nz> rock...@xtra.co.nz writes:
>From: rock...@xtra.co.nz
>Subject: Re: SPAM - Hitting their admin...
>On Sun, 20 Apr 1997 06:55:51 GMT, dra...@super.zippo.spam_block.com
>(Scheherazade) wrote:
>>
>>On Mon, 14 Apr 1997 07:03:18 GMT, ori...@earthlink.net (orionca) wrote:
>>
>>>Well, you can always try ab...@earthlink.net if you really want to
>>>annoy them.
>>>
>>>Earthlink has been nuking them about as fast as they are reported;
>>
>>This is complete bullshit. Over the last month, I've sent dozens of
>>complaints (one for each spam encountered) to ab...@earthlink.net,
>>postm...@earthlink.net and sp...@earthlink.net. All I've got back in return
>>is an auto-responder message; Earthlink has taken absolutely no actions on the
>>spammers as far as I can see, because the spam continues unabated with
>>absolute impunity.
>>
>>I've also sent msgs to all of Earthlink's upstream servers, asking them for
>>cooperation in putting pressure on Earthlink to take action; I've sent
>>messages to Earthlink's support department, accounts department, asking for
>>help in the hope of reaching a human being who actually reads the mails I
>>sent. No results whatsoever.
>>
>>I've also asked all my fans at a.b.p.e.scheherazade who are earthlink
>>customers to complain to their support personnel, and I know of at least 3
>>who've done so, again without having any effect.
>>
>>If you're really concerned about Earthlink (or if you're a staff of
>>earthlink), then I hope you bring this to your admin's attention. I can send
>>you a listing of spams if you need it.
>>
>>Best regards,
>>Scheherazade
>><dra...@super.zippo.com>
>>
>i can't stop the arsehole spammers sending me "CRAP" but then again i
>can't seem to get my e-mail address off my postings .
>Hang All of them
A simple answer to the spam problem. BOYCOTT. Do not buy the goods or
services of any company or individual which annoys you with spam.
LH