Eudora 7.1.0.9 Paid and SSL Problems with AT&T/Yahoo
Secret Agent
customer for over 3 years and have always used Eudora now I am getting
these unsecure messages. Problem is when I go to the AT&T Website they
only show examples for Outlook.
Using Eudora Help I switched my Secure Sockets setting to "Required
STARTTLS" and then it rejects the email saying the server does not
have SSL. But when I switch it back to "If Available, STARTTLS" My
mail comes in but then I get these constant messages below.
I called AT&T tech support they sent it upstairs who then told me that
lower level can only support Outlook, If I want Support for Eudora or
Thunderbird I have to pay them $99.00.
Anybody have any ideas?
Dear AT&T Yahoo! Customer:
We noticed that you are accessing email using non-secure settings in
your email software.
We would like to ensure that your AT&T Yahoo! Member ID, password, and
email messages are transmitted securely between your mail software
(such as Outlook or Outlook Express) and the AT&T Yahoo! Mail servers.
In order to meet this need, please enable SSL via the instructions
that are available on the Help site.
Since multiple email notifications have already been sent out about
this, we request that you please make the necessary changes
immediately. Remember, you need to make these changes if you want to
continue to send/receive email using a mail client.
Thank you for your cooperation,
AT&T Yahoo! Customer Support
John H Meyers
> "In order to meet this need, please enable SSL via the instructions
> that are available on the AT&T Help site."
Did you go to get those instructions?
Would you like to share them with anyone you would like to help you?
For each of POP and SMTP, you need to know:
Server name, port number, and whether SSL is required.
In case port number is 995 (used for POP3):
Secure sockets when receiving: Required, Alternate Port
In case port number is 465 (used for SMTP):
Secure sockets when sending: Required, Alternate Port
In case port number is 587 (used for SMTP):
[x] Use submission port (587)
Secure sockets when sending: "Never," or "Required, STARTTLS"
(depending on whether SSL is "no" or "yes")
In case port number is 993 (used for IMAP):
Secure sockets when receiving: Required, Alternate Port
And in most cases:
[x] Allow authentication [applies to SMTP]
You also need to make sure that your "User name"
is exactly as your ISP specifies.
Even for outgoing mail (SMTP), Eudora takes the user name
from the "Checking Mail" (or "Getting Started") section;
there isn't any separate user name in the "Sending Mail" section.
If you need a different user name for sending than for receiving,
then you have to use the separate SMTP settings of a different personality:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/tutorials/win_smtp_relay.html
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David Connet
news:92mit3tivelmsjslu...@4ax.com:
> I keep getting this message below from AT&T Yahoo though I've been a
> customer for over 3 years and have always used Eudora now I am getting
> these unsecure messages. Problem is when I go to the AT&T Website they
> only show examples for Outlook.
>
> Using Eudora Help I switched my Secure Sockets setting to "Required
> STARTTLS" and then it rejects the email saying the server does not
> have SSL. But when I switch it back to "If Available, STARTTLS" My
> mail comes in but then I get these constant messages below.
I use POPFile (for spam filtering - it acts as a proxy between me and the
mail server) and for receiving messages have the following:
email addr: my_...@att.net
user name: pop.att.yahoo.com:my_...@att.net:ssl
[this is the form popfile needs]
[x] Authentication allowed
Secure sockets: Never
Note - I do not use that for sending email (it barfs with an authentication
needed message) For sending, I use my own domain thru yahoo bizmail.
(Which, since I'm using POPFile, I had to configure that personality to not
go thru POPFile - if I forget to change personalities when sending email -
well, it doesn't get sent!)
Dave
Roger Grady
>I keep getting this message below from AT&T Yahoo though I've been a
>customer for over 3 years and have always used Eudora now I am getting
>these unsecure messages. Problem is when I go to the AT&T Website they
>only show examples for Outlook.
>
>Using Eudora Help I switched my Secure Sockets setting to "Required
>STARTTLS" and then it rejects the email saying the server does not
>have SSL. But when I switch it back to "If Available, STARTTLS" My
>mail comes in but then I get these constant messages below.
The setting you want for both sending and receiving is "Required,
Alternate Port". Works for me.
Roger Grady k9...@sbcglobal.qlfit.net
To reply by email, remove "qlfit." from address
mikesisk
An AT&T Tech Support person told me that AT&T had recently changed the settings, and that "smtp.mail.yahoo.com" and "pop.mail.yahoo.com" are obsolete. Instead we are supposed to use "inbound.att.net" and "outbound.att.net".
This turned out to be bad advice. The problem is that Eudora 7 doesn't have an SSL certificate for att.net or sbcglobal.net if you are using "inbound.att.net" and"outbound.att.net". It also doesn't have an SSL certificate for "smtp.mail.yahoo.com" and "smtp.mail.yahoo.com", but using the Tools menu, you can add an appropriate SSL certificate for "smtp.mail.yahoo.com" and "pop.mail.yahoo.com". For some reason I was not able to add an SSL certificate for "inbound.att.net" and "outbound.att.net".
One more thing before I get into the detailed settings. If you or someone has moved the "esoteric.epi" file from the Eudora's extrastuff folder into the Eudora root directory, move it back to extrastuff. It can cause problems, and it isn't needed. Using the "Required, Alternate Port" setting (see below) sets the correct Port numbers (995 forPOP, 465 for SMTP) for att.net and sbcglobal.net email. If you want to know more about how the esoteric.epi file works to create a Ports option in Eudora Options, Google it.
I will now give you the settings that worked for my att.net and sbcglobal.net email addresses, and I will give you the steps for adding an SSL certificate.
Click Tools>Personalities
Or, if you already have set up a Personality that isn't working, you can right-click the email address (the left end of the line), and left-click Properties.
If you don't have a Personality set up already, right-click in the white area, and left-click "New". If this produces a "There is no email program..." dialog box, click OK. The New Account Wizard will start.
Click "Skip directly to advanced account setup." Then click Next.
In the Generic Properties tab:
Type the Personality Name. I usually type the first name of a person and the email address. Several of us reply to customers and prospects using the same email address, so I have one email address set up several times with different people's names in each one. Each of us also checks email for that address.
Real Name: Type the name you want your recipients to see in the From field..
Email Address: Type your complete email address.
Username: Type your complete email address again.
SMTP Server: smtp.mail.yahoo.com
Check Authentication allowed
Check Use relay personality, if desired
Do not check Use submission port (587)
Default Domain: att.net [or] sbcglobal.net [whichever one you are using]
Default Stationery: Play with this later
Default Signature: Ditto
Secure Sockets when Sending: Required, Alternate Port
Leave Check Mail unchecked for now. Eudora will check for new email only when you right-click the email item and left-click Check Mail.
In the Incoming Mail tab:
Server: pop.mail.yahoo.com
Configuration: POP
Check Leave mail on server.
Uncheck Delete from server after 0 days
Uncheck Delete from server when emtied from Trash
Uncheck Skip messages over 40K in size
Authentication style: Passwords
Securesockets when Receiving: Required, Alternate Port
Click OK when done.
Test your settings by right-clicking the email address, and left-clicking "Check Mail".
If you get an SSL error, then you have to follow these instructions:
First, send yourself an email from the problem account. Sending will fail, but it will create a Eudora message that you will need in a minute.
Click Tools>Options>Sending Mail>Last SSL Info>Certificate Information Manager>View Certificate Details>Install Certificate>Next>Next>Finish>OK>OK>Add To Trusted>Done>OK>OK.
Test your settings again by right-clicking the email address, and left-clicking "Check Mail".
Hope this works for you.
http://compgroups.net/comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows/
Ajo Wissink
wrote:
>One more thing before I get into the detailed settings. If you or someone has moved the "esoteric.epi" file from the Eudora's extrastuff folder into the Eudora root directory, move it back to extrastuff. It can cause problems, and it isn't needed.
item. The file adds 6 more panels to the Options and Ports is just
one of them.