Spammers have defeated Eudora 6's spam filter!
Bloke at the pennine puddle (Replace n.a.v.d with vodafone.net.)
filter, I hope, but what that will do the the auto spam filter's
statistics that determine what is spam or not is anyone's guess.
If the spammer sends their junk to your real e-mail address and uses
your e-mail address as the sender, so it looks like it's a messages
sent from yuorself, Eudora 6.0.0.22's spam score for that message is
0!
Nice one Qualcomm!
Gianni Bagni
scritto:
Then you simply right-click on the message and choose "Junk." That will
make the score 100. Hope that's not too difficult for you . . .
John
Bloke at the pennine puddle (Replace n.a.v.d with vodafone.net.)
... but when it becomes an emedemic, I as well as others, do not want
to right-click and then select `Junk` every time. It won't take that
long for Spammer's to detect this weakness in Eudora's auto spam
filter.
Would you like to always be junking messages when you perform a
mail-pickup? What's the point of having an automatic junk filter if
that's the case.
DOH! Wake up mate. Use some of the grey matter that still asleep.
[=;
Bloke at the pennine puddle (Replace n.a.v.d with vodafone.net.)
... but when it becomes an emedemic, I as well as others, do not want
Gianni Bagni
scritto:
>
> Gianni Bagni <SpamK...@NoSpam.Org> wrote:
>
> >"Bloke at the pennine puddle (Replace n.a.v.d with vodafone.net.)" ha
> >scritto:
> >>
> >> Well, they managed it, but luckily it can be fixed with a simple
> >> filter, I hope, but what that will do the the auto spam filter's
> >> statistics that determine what is spam or not is anyone's guess.
> >>
> >> If the spammer sends their junk to your real e-mail address and uses
> >> your e-mail address as the sender, so it looks like it's a messages
> >> sent from yuorself, Eudora 6.0.0.22's spam score for that message is
> >> 0!
> >
> >Then you simply right-click on the message and choose "Junk." That will
> >make the score 100. Hope that's not too difficult for you . . .
>
> to right-click and then select `Junk` every time. It won't take that
> long for Spammer's to detect this weakness in Eudora's auto spam
> filter.
>
> Would you like to always be junking messages when you perform a
> mail-pickup? What's the point of having an automatic junk filter if
> that's the case.
Eudora's Junk filters learn. It won't take that long . . . if you train
them by Junking junk and Unjunking non-junk.
John
R. Dale Shipp
If your own address is in your mail box, then Eudora will never learn
to junk such messages automatically. The problem is that any message
coming from someone in your address book is white listed, and gets a
score of 0 or 1 automatically.
However, it does make sense to remove your own name from your address
book, and then Eudora can learn to junk such mail.
--
R. Dale Shipp
da...@min.net
Bloke at the pennine puddle (Replace n.a.v.d with vodafone.net.)
This is like pulling out teeth from a chicken.
Thanks for the advise, but none of the personalities e-mail addresses
appear anywhere within the address book. I try to get this point
across but it does not seem to be sticking.
To me it looks like people are totally obsessed in advising me to
remove something from the nicknames list that does not exist.
Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually twig onto what I'm trying to
explain.
Katrina Knight
>>> Eudora's Junk filters learn. It won't take that long . . . if you train
>>> them by Junking junk and Unjunking non-junk.
>>
>> If your own address is in your mail box, then Eudora will never learn
>>to junk such messages automatically.
That's not true. I don't have any problem with that, and have never had a
problem with it. Eudora uses the criteria you give it. If you tell it that
messages supposedly from yourself are junk it will learn that, assuming
you haven't done something else to tell it they aren't junk.
>> The problem is that any message
>>coming from someone in your address book is white listed, and gets a
>>score of 0 or 1 automatically.
And that's only the case if you have Eudora set to act that way. It is a
choice.
> This is like pulling out teeth from a chicken.
> Thanks for the advise, but none of the personalities e-mail addresses
> appear anywhere within the address book. I try to get this point
> across but it does not seem to be sticking.
Do you have the option to not junk messages from addresses in the address
book? If so, my guess is that you really do have your addresses somewhere
that Eudora is looking. What about in the history list? It seems to me
that that counts as part of the address book for filtering.
If not, have you actually made an effort to train SpamWatch? Has it made
any difference at all to the junk score of the messages you're complaining
about? You could try dumping the copy of UserJunkDB.txt that you're using
and start over with the training if there's any possibility that it got
messed up. (If you were using beta versions and didn't delete the file
before the last beta, you probably should get rid of it. There were bugs
in SpamWatch in the earlier betas, some of which caused that file to get
pretty badly messed up.)
> To me it looks like people are totally obsessed in advising me to
> remove something from the nicknames list that does not exist.
That's probably because that's what fits the symptoms you're describing.
> Maybe, just maybe, someone will actually twig onto what I'm trying to
> explain.
You're trying to explain that Eudora works differently for you than for
other people? That's possible, but the most likely solution is still the
one people have been giving you.
--
Katrina