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Sep 6, 2012, 5:47:11 PM9/6/12
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First things first, does having w7-64 bit change any Eudora
installation instructions I'd find on the internet for w7-32? I
haven't seen any mentions about 64 bits being different yet.

I have been using Eudora practically forever, so I have several copied
versions of it from XP and Win7 on my portable hard drive and the good
news is that although I didn't know diddly about w7 when I set it up a
year ago, at least I got Eudora to work.

After reformatting my computer, I wanted to put it into the correct
place this time around but it seems like I am not doing very well. I
followed instructions I found at Microsoft to "Start in"
C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora but I don't know
what to do about "Target". The one that's showing in the Target box
<F:\25THAU~1\Eudora\eudora.exe> is on my portable hard drive, but I've
installed a brand new copy of Eudora on the computer because I know I
f'd it up when I installed it last year. Eudora worked (I could send
and receive) but I could only select two email addresses at a time to
send email to.

After I get that problem figured out, I need to find where the data
file is located because a simple search for "data" mostly doesn't find
anything, although I finally found some "read me" files in an old copy
(probably what had been installed on XP).

So, first step... what do I do about this "Target" issue? Please keep
it as simple as possible, I'm barely literate in computer speak. TIA

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Sep 7, 2012, 3:06:52 AM9/7/12
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On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 21:11:15 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 14:47:11 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> declaimed the
> following in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
> >
> > First things first, does having w7-64 bit change any Eudora
> > installation instructions I'd find on the internet for w7-32? I
> > haven't seen any mentions about 64 bits being different yet.
> >
> Based on my experience... Just install it...
>
> >
> > After reformatting my computer, I wanted to put it into the correct
> > place this time around but it seems like I am not doing very well. I
> > followed instructions I found at Microsoft to "Start in"
> > C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora but I don't know
> > what to do about "Target". The one that's showing in the Target box
> > <F:\25THAU~1\Eudora\eudora.exe> is on my portable hard drive, but I've
> > installed a brand new copy of Eudora on the computer because I know I
>
> That, I suspect, was a shortcut file you'd created at some time in
> the past.
<questioning look> Please no!
>
> Target should be the eudora.exe file itself.
>
> > f'd it up when I installed it last year. Eudora worked (I could send
> > and receive) but I could only select two email addresses at a time to
> > send email to.
> >
> The default for a new install (at least for the last few versions --
> probably anything newer than version 4) will be correct: program in
> protected system directory, user data in system allocated user space.
> The main problem has been people who stored their personal mail files in
> the system program space.
>
> Multiselect is a known MICROSOFT BUG -- nothing in Eudora that can
> compensate.

Thanks - at least it's not "me", but I really didn't want to hear it
(putting fingers in ears and shouting LALALALALA!)
>
> > After I get that problem figured out, I need to find where the data
> > file is located because a simple search for "data" mostly doesn't find
>
> There is no "data file"... There is a data DIRECTORY containing all
> user email files. And where that is is simple to find... Just open
> Help/About...

Well, it's late. I'll figure it out some other tiem.

thanks a million

So it's the path with update\qualcomm\Eudora?

I installed Eudora on my desktop... but I think w7 put it somewhere
else, so I if I find it, can delete it from my desktop? I wish I had
somebody at my beck & call who knows more than I do about this stuff,
but I don't.
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Sep 7, 2012, 5:58:48 PM9/7/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:44:13 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 00:06:52 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> declaimed the
> following in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
> > So it's the path with update\qualcomm\Eudora?
> >
> That sure doesn't sound like a valid installation path...
>
> > I installed Eudora on my desktop... but I think w7 put it somewhere
>
> Anything on the "desktop" is a shortcut icon.
>
> You did install using an administrator account, didn't you? [Or
> respond to a prompt for admin login during the install -- depending on
> how your system is configured, if you didn't use admin privileges,
> Eudora might have installed into a virtual/private directory rather than
> the normal system directory]

I did respond to a prompt (which surprised me because I am the
administrator and sole user of this computer). I did a search and
Eudora is only located on my desktop at the moment, so I need to put
it somewhere. Any suggestions?
>
>
> On my ancient WinXP system (old enough to have the M$ Office
> Shortcut Bar -- on which I've created SEVEN categories, and each
> category averages about 8 shortcut icons) the short cut for Eudora
> shows:
>
> Target: "C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe"
> Start in: "E:\UserData\Dennis Lee Bieber\My Documents\Eudora"
>
> However, Start/Programs/Eudora/Eudora properties only has the
> "Target" filled in.
>
>
> <booting Win7 laptop>
>
> The shortcut icon pinned to the Win7 "start" menu properties show
>
> Target: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe"
> with no "start in" specified.

I tried that path in Target but Eudora says it's not valid. How do I
create the file or folder that's needed in Program Files (x86), drag
and drop?

Right now, I can open Eudora with <F:\25THAU~1\Eudora\eudora.exe> in
"Target" and <C:\Users\<myname>\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora> as
Start In, even when my portable HD is unplugged. However no matter if
the portable HD is connected or not, but I can't get Eudora to
download my email from the server (which I postponed initially). The
revolving yin/yang symbol does not appear when I tell it to "get mail"
although I can send an email (no problem) and it is where it needs to
be when I check. Weird. I must have messed up a setting somewhere,
but what? I suspect if I put something into the Program Files (x86),
I'll have better luck.

Thanks for your patience.
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Sep 8, 2012, 2:28:59 AM9/8/12
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 19:48:38 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:58:48 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> declaimed the
> following in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
> > I did respond to a prompt (which surprised me because I am the
> > administrator and sole user of this computer). I did a search and
> > Eudora is only located on my desktop at the moment, so I need to put
> > it somewhere. Any suggestions?
>
> In Win7, even administrators have to confirm actions that change
> drivers or registry, or the contents of the "program files" directories.
>
> Difference now is that for a user account, where WinXP would just
> abort saying "you must be an administrator" (suggesting one use
> <right-click>Run as Administrator), Win7 will allow a an install to
> complete IF you supply the admin account name and password to the
> prompt.

I found a way to set w7 for compatibility mode and set it to run
Eudora in XP mode.
>
> > I tried that path in Target but Eudora says it's not valid. How do I
> > create the file or folder that's needed in Program Files (x86), drag
> > and drop?
> >
> Do you have a 64-bit processor and Win7-64? If you are running
> Win7-32 you won't have the (x86) clause.
>
> But I'm still confused because if you "installed to desktop" you'd
> have a page of icons... An install of Eudora creates 20 directories and
> 236 files (based on my install -- most appear to be "emoticons").

It's in a folder on my desktop. It's also in a folder under appdata
(finally found where/how to make extensions and hidden files show).
>
> > Right now, I can open Eudora with <F:\25THAU~1\Eudora\eudora.exe> in
> > "Target" and <C:\Users\<myname>\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm\Eudora> as
> > Start In, even when my portable HD is unplugged. However no matter if
> > the portable HD is connected or not, but I can't get Eudora to
> > download my email from the server (which I postponed initially). The
> > revolving yin/yang symbol does not appear when I tell it to "get mail"
> > although I can send an email (no problem) and it is where it needs to
> > be when I check. Weird. I must have messed up a setting somewhere,
> > but what? I suspect if I put something into the Program Files (x86),
> > I'll have better luck.
>
> I'm not even going to attack Eudora settings until I know exactly
> what you've got installed <G>

Media Center - Win7 64 bit
>
> Do you find Eudora listed under the Start/Programs menu? (might be
> Start/All Programs in Win7

It's not there or in Start up, just on the desktop and in appdata.

> -- I don't want to boot the laptop; I have my
> own problems with it at the moment -- paid $50 to reactivate the AT&T
> aircard in it, received a phone number assignment and text message about
> the activation, but it won't connect to the network and doesn't show up
> in the "available connections" list). If you find that program list,
> right click on program icon and open properties there... (On my WinXP
> system, it is start/programs/eudora/eudora)
>
> Last attack would be to open the registry editor (regedit or
> regedt32) and search for Qualcomm -- there should be multiple places it
> appears, a key one would be:
>
> -=-=-=-
> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\Eudora.exe]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\Eudora.exe\shell]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\Eudora.exe\shell\open]
>
> [HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\Eudora.exe\shell\open\command]
> @="C:\\PROGRA~1\\Qualcomm\\Eudora\\Eudora.exe \"%1\""
> -=-=-=-

I know it's something easier than that and I'm not competent enough to
mess around with the registry anyway.

As far as other settings - I've changed Secure Sockets when Receiving
to never, but I know I've messed up my incoming mail somehow or else
I'd be able to retreive email. My incoming mail server is set for
mail.comcast.net. Not sure what else I should be checking. Thanks.
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Sep 9, 2012, 8:56:35 PM9/9/12
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:17:59 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 07 Sep 2012 23:28:59 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> declaimed the
> following in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
> >
> > I found a way to set w7 for compatibility mode and set it to run
> > Eudora in XP mode.
>
> Shouldn't be needed -- on my Win7-64 laptop I just downloaded the
> Eudora installer, ran the installer from an admin account, obtained a
> "registration/key" from a Google search (my registration on the desktop
> is for 6.x, not 7.x)... Configured the accounts using my limited user
> login, and it works.
>
> >
> > It's in a folder on my desktop. It's also in a folder under appdata
> > (finally found where/how to make extensions and hidden files show).
>
> Which implies that either you overrode the installer location data,
> or it was installed in a non-privileged (non-admin) single use mode.
>
> > I know it's something easier than that and I'm not competent enough to
> > mess around with the registry anyway.
> >
> Finding it in the registry would, at least, tell you where the OS
> thinks it is supposed to be.
>
> > As far as other settings - I've changed Secure Sockets when Receiving
> > to never, but I know I've messed up my incoming mail somehow or else
> > I'd be able to retreive email. My incoming mail server is set for
> > mail.comcast.net. Not sure what else I should be checking. Thanks.
>
> Try Special/Forget Passwords -- the next time it tries to retrieve
> it should prompt you for the passwords on each POP3 account.

First the option for properties is grayed out on right click dominate
personality and now the "forget" passwords is grayed out. I wonder if
I should just delete this copy of Eudora and start over again. Is
there some way to retrieve my settings from a copy of Eudora on my
portable HD? This is getting discouraging. I'm the only user of this
computer and I'm the administrator. Where should I tell Eudora to
install the program if I uninstall and reinstall? TIA
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Sep 10, 2012, 8:11:58 AM9/10/12
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 01:16:47 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>. BUT, if the properties for the personalities
>can't be accessed

That happens when you click on the account instead of on the persona.

sf

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Sep 12, 2012, 3:57:55 PM9/12/12
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Okay, thanks you two! I put my cursor on the word "persona" and right
clicked. Down at the bottom of the Generic Properties tab was an
unchecked box for Check Mail. I put a check in the box and "voil�" -
it works now! Glad that was the problem. I knew it had to be dead
simple (because all of my problems are), but I was about to give up
because I couldn't figure it out. I just finished copying email from
the server (had the box checked to leave it on there too). So, I'm a
happy camper. Now all that's left is to rebuild my email address
book.

Oh, while I'm still here. My data directory is in
c:users\myname\appdata\roaming\qualcomm\eudora but the application is
sitting on the desktop. Can I move the application somewhere else
without messing anything up?
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On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 17:28:19 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
<wlf...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Sep 2012 12:57:55 -0700, sf <s...@geemail.com> declaimed the
> following in comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows:
>
>
> > Oh, while I'm still here. My data directory is in
> > c:users\myname\appdata\roaming\qualcomm\eudora but the application is
> > sitting on the desktop. Can I move the application somewhere else
> > without messing anything up?
>
> Once again, if the APPLICATION were really on your desktop, your
> would have FIVE DIRECTORIES and another FIFTY or so files on your
> desktop -- because that is what Eudora requires to RUN.
>
> THIS is what a Eudora installation contains:
>
> C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora>dir
> Volume in drive C is System
> Volume Serial Number is 0487-A514
>
> Directory of C:\Program Files\Qualcomm\Eudora
>
> 08/22/2012 02:38 PM <DIR> .
> 08/22/2012 02:38 PM <DIR> ..
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 339,835 american.clx
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 7,698 american.tlx
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 347,633 british.clx
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 7,698 british.tlx
> 07/22/2005 12:38 PM 3,260 deudora.ini
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 49,219 DirServ.dll
> 07/22/2005 12:38 PM <DIR> Emoticons
> 07/22/2005 12:38 PM <DIR> Emoticons24
> 07/22/2005 12:38 PM <DIR> Emoticons32
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 13,312 esoteric.epi
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 14,310 Eudora.cnt
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 2,732,109 Eudora.exe
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 0 eudora.fts
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 1,109,364 EUDORA.hlp
> 02/15/2005 04:23 PM 304 eudora.htm
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 16,938 eudora.tip
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 2,035,791 Eudora32.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 36,933 EudoraBk.dll
> 10/16/2008 08:11 PM 2,406 EudoraCCProfiles.xml
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 61,512 EudoraNS.dll
> 02/15/2005 04:23 PM 29,696 EudUnInst.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 49,213 EuGraph.ocx
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 49,229 EuLang.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 82,944 EUMAPI.DLL
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 147,537 EuMAPI32.dll
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 24,657 EuMemMgr.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 86,016 EuShlExt.dll
> 07/22/2005 12:38 PM <DIR> extrastuff
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 1,640 finger.ini
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 233,901 FlameLex.dat
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 110,668 Imap.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 32,831 ISock.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 65,597 Ldap.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 138,752 LDAP32.DLL
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 4,567 LDAPinit.ini
> 02/15/2005 04:23 PM 827,392 libeay32.dll
> 05/09/2005 01:49 PM 15,301 License.txt
> 06/07/2005 04:55 PM 168,011 NSImport.eif
> 06/07/2005 04:55 PM 159,819 OEImport.eif
> 06/07/2005 04:55 PM 180,299 OLImport.eif
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 307,276 Paige32.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 61,497 Ph.dll
> 08/27/2004 02:10 PM 2,546 ph.ini
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 61,540 plstclnt.dll
> 04/07/2012 05:34 PM <DIR> plugins
> 02/15/2005 04:23 PM 409,368 Qckstart.pdf
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 69,713 QCSocket.dll
> 06/07/2005 04:10 PM 499,777 QCSSL.dll
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 77,903 QCUtils.dll
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 30,763 Readme.txt
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 32,489 RelNotes.txt
> 06/16/2005 02:48 PM 24,159 rootcerts.p7b
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 112,128 SPELL32.DLL
> 02/15/2005 04:23 PM 159,744 ssleay32.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 180,298 swEudora.exe
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 49,152 xmlparse.dll
> 06/07/2005 08:04 PM 73,728 xmltok.dll
> 52 File(s) 11,338,473 bytes
> 7 Dir(s) 40,104,210,432 bytes free
>
> If all you have is a single icon, it is most likely a SHORTCUT.
> Eudora itself would be installed in whatever path shows as "target" in
> the properties of that shortcut, and I really doubt your target is
> something like:
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Wulfraed\Desktop\Eudora.exe
>
> {exact path will change for Win7 to something like c:\users\<name>\...}
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Wulfraed\Desktop>dir
> Volume in drive C is System
> Volume Serial Number is 0487-A514
>
> Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Wulfraed\Desktop
>
> 09/07/2012 07:56 PM <DIR> .
> 09/07/2012 07:56 PM <DIR> ..
> 03/28/2009 08:33 PM 832 Autostar Suite.lnk
> 05/17/2009 11:12 PM 600 Earthlink (Netcom).lnk
> 08/22/2012 02:49 PM 3,830,985 Eudora_71_User_Manual.zip
> 11/21/2010 02:52 PM 453 Manuals.lnk
> 4 File(s) 3,832,870 bytes
> 2 Dir(s) 40,101,449,728 bytes free
>
> C:\Documents and Settings\Wulfraed\Desktop>
>
> Note that only one file is actually stored in there, the others are
> all shortcuts (links) to where the file is really located.

I have a folder called Eudora with 62 items in it sitting on my
desktop and one of them is eudora.exe. Eudora.ini is in the folder
that's in Roaming. That's all I know and that's why I shouldn't be
messing around with the registry. If I knew how you copied the names
of all those files, I'd copy the contents of the one on my desktop and
show you what's in it, but I don't know how - so I can't do it.

In any case, I don't particularly care what the folder is called -
what do I do with the darned thing? Can I delete it or do I have to
move it somewhere?
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On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 13:27:35 -0400, Dennis Lee Bieber
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> You need to uninstall Eudora, remove all traces of that directory
> and registry entries (to make sure it doesn't have anything pointing to
> that directory which could confuse the installer; many installers will,
> if they find information regarding a previous installed version, attempt
> to do a "repair" install), then install Eudora as an administrator so
> that it goes into the "Program Files" (x86) directory. You do not remove
> the directory with your INI file -- those settings should work
> regardless of where Eudora's code is installed.

Okay - so if I uninstall Eudora via the uninstall a program in Control
Panel, I'm not going to lose my settings? Why shouldn't I just drag
and drop the folder that's on my desktop into Program Files (x86)?
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