Outgoing SMTP and Verizon Wireless Broadband
Manny
Broadband service. Ghis involved installing a PCMIA card that has
virtually universal access and the Veizon Manager program.
As a user of Eudora 6.2 i am encoutering a serious difficulty. I use my
University's mail server for all my maik and this is the server I
specifcy to Eudora as the "incoming SMTP". Our system, however, will
not relay mail coming from the outside and so I need to provide an
"Ougoing SmTP" to send mail.
The problem is that the smtp provided by Verizon (www.vzwmail.net")
requires authentication. I have a working user name/password for this
server. However, Eudora never asks for these values and so I always
fail to connect with that smtp. I looked all over "tools" and the only
place I could find was in {"autoconfic" but this too did not work.
I am about to give up on the Verizon system. But if there is anyone
here with advice, I would really appreciate it.
Mail to don...@shell.cas.usf.edu would help..
Thanks
Manny
meirman
<don...@shell.cas.usf.edu> posted:
>For the past two days I have been trying out the new Verizon Wirrless
>Broadband service. Ghis involved installing a PCMIA card that has
>virtually universal access and the Veizon Manager program.
>
>As a user of Eudora 6.2 i am encoutering a serious difficulty. I use my
>University's mail server for all my maik and this is the server I
>specifcy to Eudora as the "incoming SMTP". Our system, however, will
You mean incomping Pop Server?
>not relay mail coming from the outside and so I need to provide an
>"Ougoing SmTP" to send mail.
>
>The problem is that the smtp provided by Verizon (www.vzwmail.net")
That sounds more like a webpage than a server name. Most smtp servers
start with smtp, and I don't think any start with www.
>requires authentication.
Did you check that box?
>I have a working user name/password for this
>server. However, Eudora never asks for these values and so I always
>fail to connect with that smtp.
What message does it give when it fails to connect?
> I looked all over "tools" and the only
>place I could find was in {"autoconfic" but this too did not work.
>
>I am about to give up on the Verizon system. But if there is anyone
>here with advice, I would really appreciate it.
>
>Mail to don...@shell.cas.usf.edu would help..
I'll mail to you but I'm assuming you will reply by post to the
newsgroup. I don't want email.
>Thanks
>
>Manny
Meirman
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Now that I have read some of the news group traffic on SmtpI can frame
my question a bit more clearly.
I read mail on a POP server and my dominant personality has the
authentication set up for this server.
The outgoing smtp provided by Verizon does indeed look strange but both
the documentation and the support staff claim that this www.vzwmail.net
is their smtp.
I did check that it requires authentication but, as some threads in
this newsgroup indicate, Eudora 6.2 does not allow a separate
authentication for the outgoing smtp.
The error message I get is that "relaying denied, requires
authentication.."
The recommended solution seems to be to have a separate personality
that will be used for sending mail. I am about to try this. It will be
a PITA but may work,
I must say that I am a bit disappointed in the speed provided by the
Verizon card. It is about 740Kbd, which beats 56Kbd, but does not
compete with the Mbd that cable or wifi provide. As I travel a lot it
looked like a good way of getting around the many different connection
modes one has to use...
Manny
Bob T Bunny
"Manny" <don...@shell.cas.usf.edu> wrote in message
news:1123815464....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
The fact that you are getting that "relaying denied" message means you have
contacted an SMTP server, so I'd tend to believe them when they say that's
the server name. If you felt like playing you could try smtp.vzwmail.net,
which is a mail server on the internet, but I would expect it also to
require authentication before relaying mail to/from another ISP.
I'm using 6.2.0, and my mail server requires POP before SMTP, which sounds
similar to what you are experiencing. Are you using a Verizon POP
(receiving) server, or just SMTP (sending) server? If it's the same ISP for
both I just tick "allow authentication" or "authentication allowed",
depending on which screen you're in, and all works.
If it's just the SMTP, try using the SMTP server for your POP ISP.
If you really want to send through Verizon, but receive mail through another
ISP, try this:
Tools | Options | Sending Mail, there is an option for "SMTP Relay
Personality". My theory (I haven't tried it) is to set up a second
personality that logs on to Verizon's POP server using the username and
password you say you have, and maybe tell it not to check automatically.
Make sure you tick the authentication box. Then change the SMTP Relay
Personality to the personality you have set up for Verizon. According to
the help file, all your mail should be sent through this personality,
regardless of which personality it was written in.
Bob T
Manny
service. I did try creating a "relay personality", as far as I can tell
I checked all the right things, and entered all the correct values, in
the Options on my dominant personality and on the Properties of the
Relay Personality. I set up the Dominant not to send mail and right
clicked on the Relay personality and clicked "send queued mail". I
still got the authentication required error.
My guess is that there is a failure in communication between the
Verizon softeware on my lap top and the Verizon smtp. It may be that
Eudora gets in there some how. The various support people on the
Verizon help number said that it does work well with Outlook. But
nothing will lead me to use Outlook.
For those interested, I read mail off my univestity POP server, to whom
Eudora authenitcates me fine. However, as is usual these days, our
system will not relay mail that comes from off campus. So, that is why
I need, whenever I travel and from home, an Outgoing Smtp.
Verizon for some reason requires an extra authentication stage to allow
access to this smtp server and this is the point at which they fail.
In the past 2 years I have used the outgoing smtp's of numerous ISPs.
No one, other than Verizon, requires an extra authentication for that
smtp.
So we had an amicable divorce...
Manny
Han
news:1123892753.3...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
I have no idea what your problem is, other than a typo somwhere.
I have my Eudora (at home and at work set up to send email from my
verizon account through the verizon smtp server (for DSL this is
outgoing.verizon.net). It works at home (connected via Verizon DSL) just
fine, with my authentication set up as Verizon suggests as well as at
work, through my connection to med.cornell (see also
http://users.myexcel.com/djacobson/internet/miscfaq001.htm,
http://users.myexcel.com/djacobson/internet/faq004.htm#eudora5x,
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2107hq.html
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Best regards
Han
email address is invalid
Manny
It turns out that I have done exactly what these very useful guides
suggest. I checked and double checked the entries in all the fields.
For some reason, the smtp that verizon usese for its wireless broadband
service chokes on the authentication data it gets from my Eudora.
I too have used Verizon DSL with no problem whatsoever. So all I can
think of is that somehow the implementation in the new broadband
service is flawed.
It is possible that the problem is in my system, or in Eudora, but as I
was not all that impressed with the speed of that Broadband service I
decided to drop the service.
Thanks
Manny
Katrina Knight
> For some reason, the smtp that verizon usese for its wireless broadband
> service chokes on the authentication data it gets from my Eudora.
> I too have used Verizon DSL with no problem whatsoever. So all I can
> think of is that somehow the implementation in the new broadband
> service is flawed.
There are different types of authentication, and it changing the setting
that determines which ones are allowed might have fixed that problem.
I set up Verizon wireless for a client several months ago. It seems to me
that I had to do something odd with the settings to make it work, but I
don't remember what that was. I do remember that I had to disable the
ethernet card to force the computer involved to connect using the wireless
connection rather than trying to use the DSL that it wasn't connected to
at that point.
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Katrina