Eudora + SSL/TLS?

[Gilles]

Hello

I'd like to use Vivaldi's SMTP servers to send e-mails.
www.vivaldi.net/forum/suggestion-box/190-vivaldi-net-email#1903

Using Eudora 7.1.0.9, I tried the following, to no avail:
- Checked: Authentication allowed
- Checked: User relay personality, if defined
- Unchecked: Use submission port (587)
- Secure Sockets when Sending = Required, Alternate Port

When sending, Eudora displays a big "Server SSL Certificate Rejected"�
http://s8.postimg.org/5h7clyyb9/eudora_vivaldi_ssl_certificate_rejected.png
� followed with this error message:
"SSL Negotiation Failed: Unknown Error The connection with the
server has been lost. Cause: (200)"

Has anyone successfully connected to a secure SMTP server?

Is there a piece of software I should run between Eudora and Vivaldi's
SMTP server?

Thank you.

[Ajo Wissink]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:29:00 +0200, Gilles <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>Hello
>
>I'd like to use Vivaldi's SMTP servers to send e-mails.
>www.vivaldi.net/forum/suggestion-box/190-vivaldi-net-email#1903
>
>Using Eudora 7.1.0.9, I tried the following, to no avail:
>- Checked: Authentication allowed
>- Checked: User relay personality, if defined
>- Unchecked: Use submission port (587)
>- Secure Sockets when Sending = Required, Alternate Port
>
>When sending, Eudora displays a big "Server SSL Certificate Rejected"�
>http://s8.postimg.org/5h7clyyb9/eudora_vivaldi_ssl_certificate_rejected.png
>� followed with this error message:
>"SSL Negotiation Failed: Unknown Error The connection with the
>server has been lost. Cause: (200)"
>
>Has anyone successfully connected to a secure SMTP server?

Just click Yes and see what happens.

[Gilles]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:48:14 -0300, Ajo Wissink
<a...@notrealaddress.invalid> wrote:
>>When sending, Eudora displays a big "Server SSL Certificate Rejected"�
>>http://s8.postimg.org/5h7clyyb9/eudora_vivaldi_ssl_certificate_rejected.png
>>� followed with this error message:
>>"SSL Negotiation Failed: Unknown Error The connection with the
>>server has been lost. Cause: (200)"
>>
>>Has anyone successfully connected to a secure SMTP server?
>
>Just click Yes and see what happens.

Nothing: The e-mail isn't sent.

More information, though:
http://s17.postimg.org/461sr6vlb/eudora_vivaldi_last_ssl_info.png

I'm not really clear about how this whole TLS/SSL thing works, but
could it be that Eudora simply needs updated/new certificates?

[Gilles]

On Mon, 15 Sep 2014 22:29:00 +0200, Gilles <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:

>When sending, Eudora displays a big "Server SSL Certificate Rejected"�
>http://s8.postimg.org/5h7clyyb9/eudora_vivaldi_ssl_certificate_rejected.png
>� followed with this error message:
>"SSL Negotiation Failed: Unknown Error The connection with the
>server has been lost. Cause: (200)"

Someone had a similar problem back in April 2014:
www.bit.ly/1pkuXYQ

Even after importing Vivaldi's certificate (Root-R2.crt), I still
can't send an e-mail:
www.pastebin.com/raw.php?i=padFjR0d

I don't know what else to try.

[Ajo Wissink]

Ask Katrina on the mailing list.

[Gilles]

On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:26:22 -0300, Ajo Wissink
<a...@notrealaddress.invalid> wrote:
>Ask Katrina on the mailing list.

Mailing list = this Usenet newsgroup?

[Ajo Wissink]

No, it's the email mailing list. You will get it in your email
client. For that Eudora would be a good choise ;)

http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/

[Juergen Kah]

Ajo Wissink schrieb:

> No, it's the email mailing list. You will get it in your email
> client. For that Eudora would be a good choise;)
>
> http://www.listmoms.net/eudora-win/

Oh, I didn't know about up to now. Thanks, too. Will join to the
mailing-list, too. But it's a pity for the newsgroup here...

As for the topic, I have had problems with my Email-Provider T-Online in
April when they changed to SSL and now in Sept they changed anything
with a host-name in a server-certificate. And I got the same irritating
error message like Gilles.

In a German newsgroup I got a hint to a link to a forum of my provider
and there I found a helpful description.

So I will try to write it here in English, perhaps it will be helpful
for one or the other user:

Error Message of Eudora by popup screen was (using English version):

| The server's SSL certificate was rejected for the following reasons;
| unknown error
| Do you want to trust this certificate in future sessions?
|
| Certificate:
| Data:
| Version: 3 (0x2)
| Serial Number: 38 (0x26)
| Signature Algorithm: sha1WithRSAEncryption
etc

(Provider in Sept changed from sha1... to sha2...)

Message in progress window below Eudora:

| <Dominant>, Logging into POP Server, (07:42:31)
| SSL Negotiation Failes: Unknown Error
| Certificate bad: Destination Host does not match host name in
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
| certificate
| But ignoring this error because Certificate is trustet
| Cause: (200)

Nevertheless no receiving or sending emails possible.

Here my steps to run Eudora again, hope it is useful with any provider,
cause made with native Eudora-steps:

1. right-click to Personality (where error occured)
2. select Properties
3. either at Generic or incoming (perhaps both one after the other)
select and click "last SSL Info"
4. click Certificate Information Manager
5. below the top Server Certificate there is a "+"
(similar to hierarchical folders)
6. click at this "+" (like open)
7. next displayed certificate line perhaps show another "+",
click again
8. click always on the next "+" (like 7), till instead "+"
there is a skull (crossbone?)

=> please be careful. If all shown certificates from 4 to 8 are from
your same provider trust center(s), go on with 9. If there are
_different_ trust centers I was told could be a security problem.

9. click (select) this skull
10. below click at "add to trusted" and "Done"
11. for safety repeat from 4 to 8
now no more skull in that top (server certificate) hierarchy,
instead of skull now a smiling face

12. now Eudora should work again with your provider, sending and
receiving emails.

BTW. in the German newsgroup several users wanted to be "helpful" with
the words "Eudora too old, throw away" and "Eudora too old to use
sha2-certificates". Eurora is old, ok, but for me best email-software
since decades, although no good handling with UTF-8.

For those being able to read in German here the newsgroup
de.comm.provider.t-online
starting with message-ID
<lvs7a2$d54$1...@news.albasani.net>

Juergen