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AES

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Oct 16, 2009, 12:35:56 PM10/16/09
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I seem to be receiving a few unwanted email messages recently (ads or
solicitations of various sorts) that leave residual image files or PDF
files behind in my Downloads folder, even after I delete the messages
themselves.

(I have a "Downloads" folder on my desktop that is set as the default
Attachments folder for Eudora -- and as the default downloads target for
number of other apps, like Safari.)

I thought I had my Eudora settings set to delete attachments when I
trash/delete a message. Is there some setting I may have missed?

If an incoming message is initially identified as Junk by Eurdora
itself; transferred to the Eudora Junk mailbox; and then manually
deleted from there by me, does that not delete all any attachments or
embedded images associated with that message?

And, I'm also finding that a few recent emails seem to be able to create
a new and unwanted _mailbox_ in my Eudora Folder >> Mail Folder folder,
all by themselves. Don't recall seeing that before -- has someone found
a new way to sneak into Eudora's internal workings?

[Mac OS 10.4.11, Eudora 6.2.4.]

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Rifty

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Oct 17, 2009, 10:01:43 AM10/17/09
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AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:

> And, I'm also finding that a few recent emails seem to be able to create
> a new and unwanted _mailbox_ in my Eudora Folder >> Mail Folder folder,
> all by themselves. Don't recall seeing that before -- has someone found
> a new way to sneak into Eudora's internal workings?

Really??? I have never had that experience, but if any email contains a
program clever enough to do that, then it's not only pretty bloody
cheeky, but boggles the mind as to what else such a program could do.
You don't think it's possible that you invoked the creation of a new
mailbox by accidentally pressing a keyboard combination? Has anyone else
had this happen?

Rifty

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AES

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Oct 17, 2009, 10:36:56 AM10/17/09
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In article <1j7rblq.1lurad01bie9oN%ri...@tpg.com.au>,
ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:

> AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:
>
> > And, I'm also finding that a few recent emails seem to be able to create
> > a new and unwanted _mailbox_ in my Eudora Folder >> Mail Folder folder,
> > all by themselves.
>

> Really??? I have never had that experience, but if any email contains a
> program clever enough to do that, then it's not only pretty bloody
> cheeky, but boggles the mind as to what else such a program could do.
> You don't think it's possible that you invoked the creation of a new
> mailbox by accidentally pressing a keyboard combination?

Could be. At least some of these emails are assigned a Junk score in
the range of 60 to 80 by my copy of Eudora, and then sent to the Junk
mailbox. I then look at them there; say, "This is _really_ junk"; use
Cmd-J to raise their score to 100; and only then manually select and
Delete them (sending them to Trash).

Maybe doing the Cmd-J step is enough to mark them so that the subsequent
Delete doesn't delete their attachments. Or maybe it's that I've set a
custom Downloads folder on my desktop as my Attachments folder, rather
than using Eudora's default Attachment folder.

But I do see this occasionally -- though only recently.

Peter Ceresole

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Oct 17, 2009, 10:46:11 AM10/17/09
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AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:

> Maybe doing the Cmd-J step is enough to mark them so that the subsequent
> Delete doesn't delete their attachments. Or maybe it's that I've set a
> custom Downloads folder on my desktop as my Attachments folder, rather
> than using Eudora's default Attachment folder.

Changing the location is unlikely to be it- all my attachments (and a
lot of other downloaded stuff) go to a 'Receive' folder on HD: and
deleting mails deletes their attachments from there all right.
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D.F. Manno

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Oct 17, 2009, 8:32:48 PM10/17/09
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Isn't there a setting (or software) that will take a MIME digest and
break it into individual messages in a new mailbox?

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Kathy Morgan

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Oct 17, 2009, 11:28:40 PM10/17/09
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D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:

> In article <1j7rblq.1lurad01bie9oN%ri...@tpg.com.au>,
> ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
>
> > AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> >
> > > And, I'm also finding that a few recent emails seem to be able to create
> > > a new and unwanted _mailbox_ in my Eudora Folder >> Mail Folder folder,
> > > all by themselves. Don't recall seeing that before -- has someone found
> > > a new way to sneak into Eudora's internal workings?
> >
> > Really??? I have never had that experience, but if any email contains a
> > program clever enough to do that, then it's not only pretty bloody
> > cheeky, but boggles the mind as to what else such a program could do.
> > You don't think it's possible that you invoked the creation of a new
> > mailbox by accidentally pressing a keyboard combination? Has anyone else
> > had this happen?
>
> Isn't there a setting (or software) that will take a MIME digest and
> break it into individual messages in a new mailbox?

Ah! Yes, there is, but I can't remember what it is. I just looked, and
it's not in the settings, so it must be add-on software, probably a plug
in. Cucumber, maybe?

Okay, I just went looking and it is called Cucumber, a script that
bursts digests, but into an existing mailbox.
<http://emailman.com/eudora/mac/scripts.html>

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Kathy

John H Meyers

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Oct 18, 2009, 2:18:02 AM10/18/09
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 19:32:48 -0500, D.F. Manno wrote:

> Isn't there a setting (or software) that will take a MIME digest and
> break it into individual messages in a new mailbox?

Under "Attachments" there is a setting,
here copied directly from the Eudora 6.2.4 manual:

Receive MIME digests as attachments [on]:

When this setting is on,
MIME digests are converted to Eudora mailboxes.
If this is off,
MIME digests will be displayed as a single long message.

I have not seen the results of this,
nor know from exactly what the mailbox name for a mailing list
would be taken -- I don't see any mailbox name(s) mentioned by AES.

Technical spec of "MIME digest":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME#Digest
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2046#section-5.1.5

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AES

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Oct 18, 2009, 9:25:02 AM10/18/09
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In article <op.u1zfs...@miu.edu>,

"John H Meyers" <jhme...@nomail.invalid> wrote:

> Under "Attachments" there is a setting,
> here copied directly from the Eudora 6.2.4 manual:
>
> Receive MIME digests as attachments [on]:
>
> When this setting is on,
> MIME digests are converted to Eudora mailboxes.
> If this is off,
> MIME digests will be displayed as a single long message.
>
> I have not seen the results of this,
> nor know from exactly what the mailbox name for a mailing list
> would be taken -- I don't see any mailbox name(s) mentioned by AES.

That setting is interesting. It was "on" in my settings (it's now off).

Three unwanted mailboxes that are still in my list of mailboxes from
before I did this are

broad...@laservision.com
em...@yes.irislink.com
qa...@xici.net

These appeared right under my In, Out, Junk, and Trash mailboxes, since
all the rest of my mailbox list consists of folders. Since I wasn't
interested in them, I didn't explore any of them, though I can connect
them with junk emails I recall passing through my email; the middle one,
for example, I think comes from an ad for the IRIS OCR software.

Thomas R. Kettler

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Oct 18, 2009, 1:39:13 PM10/18/09
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In article <1j7qwih.7fhsnfp5qg11N%kmo...@spamcop.net>,
kmo...@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:

> D.F. Manno <dfm...@mail.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <1j7rblq.1lurad01bie9oN%ri...@tpg.com.au>,
> > ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
> >
> > > AES <sie...@stanford.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > > And, I'm also finding that a few recent emails seem to be able to create
> > > > a new and unwanted _mailbox_ in my Eudora Folder >> Mail Folder folder,
> > > > all by themselves. Don't recall seeing that before -- has someone found
> > > > a new way to sneak into Eudora's internal workings?
> > >
> > > Really??? I have never had that experience, but if any email contains a
> > > program clever enough to do that, then it's not only pretty bloody
> > > cheeky, but boggles the mind as to what else such a program could do.
> > > You don't think it's possible that you invoked the creation of a new
> > > mailbox by accidentally pressing a keyboard combination? Has anyone else
> > > had this happen?
> >
> > Isn't there a setting (or software) that will take a MIME digest and
> > break it into individual messages in a new mailbox?
>
> Ah! Yes, there is, but I can't remember what it is. I just looked, and
> it's not in the settings, so it must be add-on software, probably a plug
> in. Cucumber, maybe?
>

Actually, it is. If you check your settings in Attachments, you'll see
one which allows you to receive MIME digests as attachments which allow
you to get a digest with each one as a mailbox and breaks the individual
emails.

> Okay, I just went looking and it is called Cucumber, a script that
> bursts digests, but into an existing mailbox.
> <http://emailman.com/eudora/mac/scripts.html>
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