Corruption of mailbox
Rifty
everything I want an email program to do, but a large Inbox got
corrupted and I decided to archive that, and reinstall Eudora altogether
an start again, just to be sure the corruption would not spread further
through my system.
One of the things I have frgotten how to do is to have Eudora check for
duplicate emails and delete one of them. There is a command or switch
that does it. Can anyone remind me how it's done? I don't *think* it's
documented but I came here first rather than try to dig it out (hi
Kathy! :).
Cheers,
Rifty
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Kathy Morgan
> One of the things I have frgotten how to do is to have Eudora check for
> duplicate emails and delete one of them. There is a command or switch
> that does it. Can anyone remind me how it's done? I don't *think* it's
> documented but I came here first rather than try to dig it out (hi
> Kathy! :).
<grin> Hi! It's in the Esoteric settings, under "Really Miscellaneous"
- check the box for "delete duplicate messages (slow)"
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Kathy
Peter Ceresole
> <grin> Hi! It's in the Esoteric settings, under "Really Miscellaneous"
> - check the box for "delete duplicate messages (slow)"
Nice to see the Morgan grin... But how slow is it, really?
I don't have any dupes, and never needed to use it. But is that comment
from the 68k era? Presumably with a core duo intel machine, even using
Rosetta, it should leave scorch marks and a faint smell of burning...
--
Peter
Kathy Morgan
Hi, Peter! You're right. I used to get a lot of dupes (mostly spam),
and probably still do, but I don't see them since I have Eudora set to
delete them and I've never noticed any difference in speed. Of course,
I've always had a really slow Internet connection, which seems to be
more of a limit than Eudora deleting the dupes, even on my old 68k
machine.
A while back I had a bad upgrade experience and had to reinstall
everything and restore from a backup. I had forgotten all about Eudora
needing Rosetta and thought for a scary few seconds that I was not going
to be able to use Eudora anymore. I think I would have reverted back to
the older OS rather than give up Eudora!
--
Kathy
Sander Tekelenburg
kmo...@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
[... How slow is slow in "delete duplicate messages (slow)"]
> I used to get a lot of dupes (mostly spam),
> and probably still do, but I don't see them since I have Eudora set to
> delete them and I've never noticed any difference in speed.
Same here. I've had that setting on for 'ages' and never noticed any
speed issue with it.
Possibly its noticability relates to the size of your mailboxes. I keep
mine smallish -- the biggest contains some 3000 messages.
[...]
> I think I would have reverted back to
> the older OS rather than give up Eudora!
I wouldn't be surprised if 10.7 doesn't provide Rosetta anymore, thus
finally killing Eudora. You could hold off upgrading to 10.7, but only
for as long as you won't need to buy a new Mac.
Well, theoretically another option would be to run Eudora under an older
OS inside a virtualizer/emulator. But I wouldn't find that practical
enough to be worth the trouble -- it woud make interaction with other
apps to troublesome.
--
Sander Tekelenburg, <http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/>
Mac user: "Macs only have 40 viruses, tops!"
PC user: "SEE! Not even the virus writers support Macs!"
Rifty
Nice to see you (and very cluey stalwarts Peter and Sander) - but you
know what? there are no Esoteric Settings listed in Settings at all in
this reinstalled version of Eudora. There's a Miscellaneous but no
Really Misc - and I seem to recall many years ago a third party program
that added a lot of extra settings to Eudora Settings - I remember a lot
of yellow smiley-type faces in it but don't have a clue what it's
called. 'Really Miscellaneous' wasn't part of the program, was it? If
so can anyone recall what it was called? It must be 15 years old at
least...
This may explain why I couldn't find it in settings!
If not.. any workarounds? I can't persuade the list manager of an
important and large list I am on that my alias and my real identity
don't both need to be on their address list.
Kathy Morgan
> you know what? there are no Esoteric Settings listed in Settings at all in
> this reinstalled version of Eudora. There's a Miscellaneous but no Really
> Misc
Then you need to activate the Esoteric Settings. They come with Eudora,
but by default they're turned off. Go to the Finder, select the Eudora
app, and then Get Info.
(Aaaaccckkkk! I just did that, because I couldn't remember exactly what
the selection was called, and in 10.6 it's gone! Just in case I ever
need to install a plug-in, does anyone know how to do it in 10.6?)
Okay, sorry, back to your problem. You're in 10.5.8, so when you Get
Info, there should be someplace in the Info window to activate and
de-activate plug-ins. Find the Esoteric Settings in the list and check
the box to activate. You may have to restart Eudora to see the new
settings appear.
--
Kathy
John H Meyers
> Then you need to activate the Esoteric Settings. They come with Eudora,
> but by default they're turned off. Go to the Finder, select the Eudora
> app, and then Get Info.
>
> (Aaaaccckkkk! I just did that, because I couldn't remember exactly what
> the selection was called, and in 10.6 it's gone! Just in case I ever
> need to install a plug-in, does anyone know how to do it in 10.6?)
Is any of the following still valid?
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1779hq.html
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/2082hq.html
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Sander Tekelenburg
kmo...@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
[... enabling Esoteric Settings plugin through Finder's get Info]
> (Aaaaccckkkk! I just did that, because I couldn't remember exactly what
> the selection was called, and in 10.6 it's gone! Just in case I ever
> need to install a plug-in, does anyone know how to do it in 10.6?)
I'd expect 10.6 still let's you open the Eudora application "package",
after which you can en-/disable plugins by moving them between
Contents/PlugIns and Contents/PlugIns Disabled
Sander Tekelenburg
ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
> [...] I seem to recall many years ago a third party program
> that added a lot of extra settings to Eudora Settings - I remember a lot
> of yellow smiley-type faces in it but don't have a clue what it's
> called.
That's "Super Sleek", or its slightly renewed version "Sleek-A-Boo".
Kathy Morgan
> In article <1j7e15e.1qu01aqvv163kN%kmo...@spamcop.net>,
> kmo...@spamcop.net (Kathy Morgan) wrote:
>
> [... enabling Esoteric Settings plugin through Finder's get Info]
>
> > (Aaaaccckkkk! I just did that, because I couldn't remember exactly what
> > the selection was called, and in 10.6 it's gone! Just in case I ever
> > need to install a plug-in, does anyone know how to do it in 10.6?)
>
> I'd expect 10.6 still let's you open the Eudora application "package",
> after which you can en-/disable plugins by moving them between
> Contents/PlugIns and Contents/PlugIns Disabled
Yes, you're right, it does.
I'm disappointed that 10.6 took away the plug-in access in Get Info, but
at least there is still a way to access them.
--
Kathy
Kathy Morgan
No, but your suggestions prompted me to look around in the Finder and I
discovered the method that Sander Tekelenburg offered.
--
Kathy
Rifty
> Rifty <ri...@tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
> > you know what? there are no Esoteric Settings listed in Settings at all in
> > this reinstalled version of Eudora. There's a Miscellaneous but no Really
> > Misc
>
> Then you need to activate the Esoteric Settings.
Oh... how quickly one forgets... I feel like a newbie again. But then it
must be at least a decade since I did this stuff before.
>They come with Eudora,
> but by default they're turned off. Go to the Finder, select the Eudora
> app, and then Get Info.
Yep! Did that, and we are right to go.... Many thanks, Eudora Goddess!
(I DO remember calling you that about a decade ago....)
> (Aaaaccckkkk! I just did that, because I couldn't remember exactly what
> the selection was called, and in 10.6 it's gone! Just in case I ever
> need to install a plug-in, does anyone know how to do it in 10.6?)
Sorry if I precipitated a problem with your system! But I guess you
learned something new from it, so it can't be all bad.... :) Obviously
you are finding no other issues running 10.6 with Eudora?
> Okay, sorry, back to your problem. You're in 10.5.8, so when you Get
> Info, there should be someplace in the Info window to activate and
> de-activate plug-ins. Find the Esoteric Settings in the list and check
> the box to activate. You may have to restart Eudora to see the new
> settings appear.
Yes. It has already done its work. Excellent!
Kathy Morgan
>
> Sorry if I precipitated a problem with your system! But I guess you
> learned something new from it, so it can't be all bad.... :) Obviously
> you are finding no other issues running 10.6 with Eudora?
You're right--so far I've had no issues at all. I've also been too busy
IRL to explore 10.6 and learn about all the useful things that the
upgrade might do for me, so I've had no benefits, either. :-)
--
Kathy
Rifty
Well, I installed Snow Leopard last night, and so far so good, except
for one - with Eudora! When I clicked on the settings file for Eudora
(which is the way I control multiple personalities much more effectively
than from within the application) it tried to open it with another
program. I had to do a Get Info on the settings file and change it to
open with Eudora - and since then, it's been fine. I can't imagine why
Snow Leopard decided to link it with an entirely different program,
though.
Sander Tekelenburg
ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
[...]
> Well, I installed Snow Leopard last night, and so far so good, except
> for one - with Eudora! When I clicked on the settings file for Eudora
> (which is the way I control multiple personalities much more effectively
> than from within the application) it tried to open it with another
> program. I had to do a Get Info on the settings file and change it to
> open with Eudora - and since then, it's been fine. I can't imagine why
> Snow Leopard decided to link it with an entirely different program,
> though.
Snow Leopard's Launch Services ignores creator types:
<http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars>
Steve W. Jackson
Sander Tekelenburg <us...@domain.invalid> wrote:
> In article <1j7obq2.1hhclxd1588ym8N%ri...@tpg.com.au>,
> ri...@tpg.com.au (Rifty) wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Well, I installed Snow Leopard last night, and so far so good, except
> > for one - with Eudora! When I clicked on the settings file for Eudora
> > (which is the way I control multiple personalities much more effectively
> > than from within the application) it tried to open it with another
> > program. I had to do a Get Info on the settings file and change it to
> > open with Eudora - and since then, it's been fine. I can't imagine why
> > Snow Leopard decided to link it with an entirely different program,
> > though.
>
> Snow Leopard's Launch Services ignores creator types:
> <http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2009/08/mac-os-x-10-6.ars>
I think I read that elsewhere myself. But in my case, Snow Leopard
responded to my efforts to open Eudora settings files by telling me that
no default app was selected. Several other apps did something similar.
But it was a minor annoyance at the outset and now all is good.
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
Peter Ceresole
> I think I read that elsewhere myself. But in my case, Snow Leopard
> responded to my efforts to open Eudora settings files by telling me that
> no default app was selected. Several other apps did something similar.
> But it was a minor annoyance at the outset and now all is good.
I don't have Snow Leopard, although I have heard that it doesn't handle
the old Apple metadata. However, it does allow you to select a parent
application via 'get info', doesn't it?
--
Peter
Steve W. Jackson
pe...@cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote:
Indeed it does. It just lost the associations for many of my
applications in the beginning.