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Jos De Laender

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Hi,

I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.

The tool should

- allow graphical editing of blocks

- keep synchronization between the textual vhdl behind
it and the graphical presentation, i.e. if graphics
change, text must follow and vice-versa.

- really support VHDL, i.e. it should work also with constructs
that are not in Verilog such as records.

Thanks for any information.

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Jos Dreesen

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Jos De Laender wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
> VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
>
> The tool should
>
>A) - allow graphical editing of blocks
>
>B) - keep synchronization between the textual vhdl behind

> it and the graphical presentation, i.e. if graphics
> change, text must follow and vice-versa.
>
>C) - really support VHDL, i.e. it should work also with constructs

> that are not in Verilog such as records.


The first two were possible with the Speedchart tool, but the company
that
provided this tool has collapsed...
Also Cadence 97A a.k.a as Cadence 4.4.1 has this possibility, I've just
used a ideal combination ( for my purpose) of VHDL and schematics
for a mixed-mode IC design.

I don't know of any tool that does "C" ......

Regards,

Jos Dreesen


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Bob Myers

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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Look into Summit Design's VisualHDL product. It allows entry of
block diagrams, VHDL text, state machines, etc. -- and can generate
a "flat" hdl file that can be used by other synthesis tools (such
as Exemplar's Leonardo). Also, it has versioning control as an
option...

I believe their web site is www.summit-design.com

-Regards,
Bob

In article <35D183...@sh.bel.alcatel.be>, jd...@sh.bel.alcatel.be says...


>
>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
>VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
>
>The tool should
>

> - allow graphical editing of blocks
>

> - keep synchronization between the textual vhdl behind
> it and the graphical presentation, i.e. if graphics
> change, text must follow and vice-versa.
>

> - really support VHDL, i.e. it should work also with constructs
> that are not in Verilog such as records.
>

Scherer Anton

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Jos De Laender wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
> VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
renoir (Mentor Graphics) has a tool for it. It allows generating
graphics from VHDL-files. Have a look at http://www.mentorg.com
Since I start my design with graphical top-down I never used it.

Regards,
Anton

Nigel Elliot

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Nigel Elliot wrote:
Jos De Laender wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
> VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
>

> The tool should
>
>         - allow graphical editing of blocks
>
>         - keep synchronization between the textual vhdl behind
>                 it and the graphical presentation, i.e. if graphics
>         change, text must follow and vice-versa.
>
>         - really support VHDL, i.e. it should work also with constructs
>         that are not in Verilog such as records.
>
> Thanks for any information.
>
> --
> Jos De Laender          | mailto:jd...@sh.bel.alcatel.be
> Alcatel - SSD           |
> ASIC design - VA21      |
> F. Wellesplein 1        | Phone : (32)(0) 3 240 74 61
> B-2018 Antwerp, Belgium | Fax   : (32)(0) 3 240 99 47
>
> http://www.sh.bel.alcatel.be/users/jdla/html/Home.html

Jos,

Mentor Graphics provide a tool that can do all of the above, called
Renoir.

You can get a demo version from our web page at

http://www.mentorg.com/renoir/index.html

regards

- Nigel

 
Sorry

The link is

http://www.mentorg.com/renoir/index.htm
 
 

David R Brooks

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Aug 13, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/13/98
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Scherer Anton <a.sc...@fh-aargau.ch> wrote:

:Jos De Laender wrote:
:> I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble


:> VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.

:renoir (Mentor Graphics) has a tool for it. It allows generating


:graphics from VHDL-files. Have a look at http://www.mentorg.com
:Since I start my design with graphical top-down I never used it.

:
However, Renoir is quite costly. Specifically, in $A, purchase about
$A9500, annual maintenance about $A1500.


-- Dave Brooks <http://www.iinet.net.au/~daveb>
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asa...@my-dejanews.com

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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In article <35D2D4E9...@fh-aargau.ch>,

Scherer Anton <a.sc...@fh-aargau.ch> wrote:
> Jos De Laender wrote:
> >
> > Hi,

> >
> > I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
> > VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
> renoir (Mentor Graphics) has a tool for it. It allows generating
> graphics from VHDL-files. Have a look at http://www.mentorg.com
> Since I start my design with graphical top-down I never used it.

You could also take a look at Visual-HDL from summit design http://www.sd.com
and VeriBest http://www.veribest.com do an integrated VHDL and PCB design
tool, obviously you can only purchase the vhdl section if thats all you want.
They both offer simmilar features to renoir and both at equally silly prices.

Andrew

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Mark Hampton

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Aug 14, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/14/98
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This site is worth taking a look at. Whether you can get hold of the
software is another question. The approach taken would seem to be more
comprehensive than any commercial offerings I've seen.

http://www-itiv.etec.uni-karlsruhe.de/FORSCHUNG/f_vse/vyper.html
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Steve Bird

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Aug 17, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/17/98
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You could have a look at a product called GEMA. Email me for more info.

Steve...

In article <35D183...@sh.bel.alcatel.be>, Jos De Laender
<jd...@sh.bel.alcatel.be> writes


>Hi,
>
>I'm looking for information about tools that allow to assemble
>VHDL toplevels in a graphical way.
>

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