Labeled frame in Tk 8.4?
Chris Nelson
provided for labeled frames in Tk 8.4 but I can't find any reference to
it in the ChangeLog, in frame.n which came with Tk8.4a3. Am I confused?
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Jeff Hobbs
>
> I thought I read here or in some release notes that the frame widget
> provided for labeled frames in Tk 8.4 but I can't find any reference to
> it in the ChangeLog, in frame.n which came with Tk8.4a3. Am I confused?
The labelframe widget has not yet made it into 8.4, although it
will get there. This is likely not the last alpha release of
8.4.
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jonathan allen booth
: The labelframe widget has not yet made it into 8.4, although it
: will get there. This is likely not the last alpha release of
: 8.4.
Are we likely to see a in-the-tk-core notebook widget as well?
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Jeff Hobbs
>
> Jeff Hobbs <Je...@activestate.com> wrote:
> : The labelframe widget has not yet made it into 8.4, although it
> : will get there. This is likely not the last alpha release of
> : 8.4.
>
> Are we likely to see a in-the-tk-core notebook widget as well?
There is no TIP for this yet, but I'd like to see one. This is
the sort of thing that can be done well as a megawidget though
(the labelframe couldn't for various reasons - read the tcl-core
archives if you're interested).
jonathan allen booth
: There is no TIP for this yet, but I'd like to see one. This is
: the sort of thing that can be done well as a megawidget though
: (the labelframe couldn't for various reasons - read the tcl-core
: archives if you're interested).
I saw it referenced on the old 8.4 roadmap up at scriptics, I guess it
didn't transfer over from that.
Done well functionality wise, yes, but it's a lot harder to emulate all
three (or more) native OS behaviors. Maybe not a lot harder, but a
lot more of a pain in the programmers rear. Not that it wouldn't be just
as much a pain in tk itself but then at least people would quit writing
their own versions because there'd be an easy to use standard version.
Donal K. Fellows
> jonathan allen booth wrote:
>> Are we likely to see a in-the-tk-core notebook widget as well?
>
> There is no TIP for this yet, but I'd like to see one. This is
> the sort of thing that can be done well as a megawidget though
> (the labelframe couldn't for various reasons - read the tcl-core
> archives if you're interested).
Speaking as someone who has written a notebook megawidget in the past,
it is quite easy to get something that looks reasonable enough for
use, and a complete pain to solve completely. Problems include not
having access to the 3D border drawing code at the Tcl level, tab
traversal and focus management. Getting sensible and intuitive focus
behaviour is particularly tricky. (Providing different looks-and-feels
is a whole 'nother kettle of fish on top of all that.) Anyone wanting
to put up the effort to TIP-and-implement will *definitely* have a lot
of support from me!
Donal.
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