The Tcl-Logo
skuh...@web.de
I just read the "Tcl vs. TCL"-Wiki-Page (http://wiki.tcl.tk/11902)
about how to spell and pronounce Tcl ("tickle" vs. T-C-L). Really
funny... - Anyway, someone mentioned there, that the Logo of Tcl (the
feather) comes from the original pronounciation "tickle" for Tcl,
because a feather tickles. Does anyone here know, if this is true and
if there exists a document from Ousterhouts release of the language
about this or something?
TIA
Stephan
Jeff Hobbs
The first published paper from Ousterhout on Tcl (~1990) noted that it
was intended to be pronounced "tickle", not T-c-l. I can also confirm
that John always used the term "tickle".
Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
Jeff
HT-Lab
"Jeff Hobbs" <je...@activestate.com> wrote in message
news:46966513...@activestate.com...
Because licking a frog puts you in a hyper ActiveState :-)
Because the CEO of ActiveState was once a beautiful princess.?
Hans
www.ht-lab.com
>
> Jeff
Kevin Walzer
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
>
Well, when I'm tickled, I jump...so the frog signifies that Tcl is a
hoppin' language!
--
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
jhwri...@gmail.com
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
>
> Jeff
Maybe it has something todo with {*}, a wart as declared here
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.tcl/msg/04010849eb364702
Jeannot
A free license... well...this discussion is going to be very
popular ;-)
Let's have a try...
They took this frog because Kermit was already busy...a less cool frog
but more popular... ;-)
Jeannot
Jeff Houck
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
>
> Jeff
Because Komodo dragons were already used...
Plebeian
Or did that come after the logo decision? :)
- Casey
On Jul 12, 10:29 am, Jeff Hobbs <je...@activestate.com> wrote:
Synic
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
Two thoughts:
(1) Because TDK "can't be licked"?
(2) TDK being the final product of a metamorphasis?
neuro...@gmail.com
Because a frog is a form of fast 'debugger'.. which is one of the
things the TDK contains? :)
Julian
chess hazlett
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
Frog's an amphibian, lives on land and in water... so Tcl is good for
all environments. :)
neuro...@gmail.com
Because frogs are a form of very fast 'debugger' ... which is also one
of the items in the TDK?
Julian Noble
Gilles
In article <46966513...@activestate.com>,
Jeff Hobbs <je...@activestate.com> wrote:
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
Because of the tale `Three Feathers' by the Grimm brothers? In this
tale, a feather `guides' one of the three King's sons to a (fat) frog?
Gilles.
Jeff Hobbs
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
I do enjoy the various inspired ideas, but the real reason is because we
had to go with some amphibian / reptile to match the gecko for
ActivePerl (now why that is a gecko is yet another story ...), the
python for (drum roll ...) ActivePython and the Komodo for ActiveState's
Komodo IDE. The feather was simply too dissimilar. Thus Lick, the
Frog, was born.
Jeff
mig
> I do enjoy the various inspired ideas, but the real reason is because we
> had to go with some amphibian / reptile to match the gecko for
> ActivePerl (now why that is a gecko is yet another story ...), the
> python for (drum roll ...) ActivePython and the Komodo for ActiveState's
> Komodo IDE. The feather was simply too dissimilar. Thus Lick, the
> Frog, was born.
You missed the axolotl - at least as weird as we are!
skuh...@web.de
Jeff Hobbs wrote:
> Thus, that was the inspiration for making a feather the Tcl logo. The
> first person to explain why ActiveState uses a frog gets a free license
> of TDK (but heh, it's a cool frog regardless!).
Because TDK is what frogs do: a big leap ahead.
Regards
Stephan
neuro...@gmail.com
Because a frog is a form of fast 'debugger' - and there is also such a
thing included in the TDK?
Julian
(sorry if duplicate post - tried to send yesterday using
groups.google.com but it didn't appear)
Cameron Laird
Also their original habitat has been largely drained/paved/...,
and the wild population is critically endangered. Also axolotls
are handy throughout science. Also ... well, this game could
clearly go on for a while. How about the lampalagua?
ActiveState denizens recreating these discussions might want to
know that "[m]any biologists use the term ... 'herptiles' for all
reptiles and amphibians."
Andreas Leitgeb
Wouldn't it have to be a flea, then ?
PS: I don't actually use TDK, but anyway :-)
skuh...@web.de
Me neither, but a flea is a good choice in the context of Tcl's
pronounciation: Fleas tickle... ;-) OTOH, they suck (blood), which is
something, Tcl does not.
Stephan