BLT Documentation
Christian Hirt
Hi TclTKer!
Where can I find a good documentation
for the BLT package?
Regards, Christian
Hans Herrmann
"Christian Hirt" <hi...@mbox.ife.uni-hannover.de> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:3BFA2BC6...@mbox.ife.uni-hannover.de...
Sorry, Christian,
but I think - inside of BLT - there is a detailed documentation. Don't
forget the *.pdf "slides.pdf".
Hans
David Russell
presentation at USENIX in 02/00. Email me if you want a copy if you
don't have it. There are one or two slides about printing.
David
Christian Hirt <hi...@mbox.ife.uni-hannover.de> wrote in message news:<3BFA2BC6...@mbox.ife.uni-hannover.de>...
Marty Backe
covers BLT.
Marty Backe
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mgb...@usa.net
http://www.lucidway.org
lvi...@yahoo.com
According to Christian Hirt <hi...@mbox.ife.uni-hannover.de>:
:Where can I find a good documentation
:for the BLT package?
Each person's definition of good differs.
Some developers say 'just read the source code - that's all the doc
that you need'.
Others say 'just read the man pages'.
At http://purl.org/tcl/package/blt/ there are some files available.
Unfortunately, this page, as well as the original home for blt,
appear to be non-functioning right now.
I don't know whether there are any tutorials accessible on the internet.
There is a chapter in the old Tcl/Tk Tools O'Reilly book - however I don't
know whether or not it is still in print.
--
"I know of vanishingly few people ... who choose to use ksh." "I'm a minority!"
<URL: mailto:lvi...@cas.org> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/>
Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting
should be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
Cameron Laird
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>There is a chapter in the old Tcl/Tk Tools O'Reilly book - however I don't
>know whether or not it is still in print.
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No.
--
Cameron Laird <Cam...@Lairds.com>
Business: http://www.Phaseit.net
Personal: http://starbase.neosoft.com/~claird/home.html
Marty Backe
booth). But I too see that it's now listed as out-of-print. I guess my copy is
now a collectors item.
This is a good book. The discussion on BLT is the best available, and for the
most part still current. Also very good discussions on Itcl/Itk/Iwidgets.
I also happen to have a personal electronic (pdf) version of this book. I wonder
if someday it might be permissible to make it freely available.
I also wonder if O'Reilly had even given thought to putting together a new
edition covering modern Tcl. They probably did, but like (so it seems) everyone
else, they see Tcl diminishing in importance.
On 28 Nov 2001 10:15:47 -0600, cla...@starbase.neosoft.com (Cameron Laird)
wrote:
>In article <9u30j8$klj$4...@srv38.cas.org>, <lvi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>There is a chapter in the old Tcl/Tk Tools O'Reilly book - however I don't
>>know whether or not it is still in print.
> .
> .
> .
>No.
Arjen Markus
>
> I thought I had seen this for sale at the last conference (in the O'Reilly
> booth). But I too see that it's now listed as out-of-print. I guess my copy is
> now a collectors item.
>
> This is a good book. The discussion on BLT is the best available, and for the
> most part still current. Also very good discussions on Itcl/Itk/Iwidgets.
>
> I also happen to have a personal electronic (pdf) version of this book. I wonder
> if someday it might be permissible to make it freely available.
>
> I also wonder if O'Reilly had even given thought to putting together a new
> edition covering modern Tcl. They probably did, but like (so it seems) everyone
> else, they see Tcl diminishing in importance.
>
I for one would like to see an update of the book. It is wonderful
in its description of a number of useful extensions, but the Tcl
version described there is really outdated.
Regards,
Arjen
lvi...@yahoo.com
According to Marty Backe <mgb...@usa.net>:
:I also happen to have a personal electronic (pdf) version of this book. I wonder
:if someday it might be permissible to make it freely available.
Marty, with O'Reilly's Safari effort in full swing, I wonder if their
Tcl books are available via that mechanism. If not, perhaps they would
make the books they don't intend on supporting available via PDF, etc.
Anyone have an ORA contact?
Cameron Laird
Marty Backe <mgb...@usa.net> wrote:
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>edition covering modern Tcl. They probably did, but like (so it seems) everyone
>else, they see Tcl diminishing in importance.
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ORA certainly has considered a second edition.
Publishers don't make money thinking about *importance*;
it's marketability that matters. Tcl books have sold
miserably for over a year--even while IBM, Oracle, Cisco,
... have made strategic decisions to use Tcl.
I don't have the energy to understand or explain it. I'm
just trying to change it.
Bob Techentin
>
> Publishers don't make money thinking about *importance*;
> it's marketability that matters. Tcl books have sold
> miserably for over a year--even while IBM, Oracle, Cisco,
> ... have made strategic decisions to use Tcl.
>
> I don't have the energy to understand or explain it. I'm
> just trying to change it.
Maybe if Tcl/Tk were harder to learn, or more confusing, or you needed
to look things up a lot when you were using it. Then people would by
more books. :-)
(oreilly.com lists 28 Perl books, and only 4 Tcl books)
Bob
--
Bob Techentin techenti...@mayo.edu
Mayo Foundation (507) 538-5495
200 First St. SW FAX (507) 284-9171
Rochester MN, 55901 USA http://www.mayo.edu/sppdg/
Marty Backe
www.netlibrary.com, which gives me access to ~150 O'Reilly books. The Tcl/Tk
Tools book is one of them. So even if it disappears from paper, it'll probably
always be available in some electronic format.
On 29 Nov 2001 12:25:33 GMT, lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>According to Marty Backe <mgb...@usa.net>:
>:I also happen to have a personal electronic (pdf) version of this book. I wonder
>:if someday it might be permissible to make it freely available.
>:
>
>Marty, with O'Reilly's Safari effort in full swing, I wonder if their
>Tcl books are available via that mechanism. If not, perhaps they would
>make the books they don't intend on supporting available via PDF, etc.
>
>Anyone have an ORA contact?
Arjen Markus
>
> Cameron Laird wrote:
> >
> > Publishers don't make money thinking about *importance*;
> > it's marketability that matters. Tcl books have sold
> > miserably for over a year--even while IBM, Oracle, Cisco,
> > ... have made strategic decisions to use Tcl.
> >
> > I don't have the energy to understand or explain it. I'm
> > just trying to change it.
>
> Maybe if Tcl/Tk were harder to learn, or more confusing, or you needed
> to look things up a lot when you were using it. Then people would by
> more books. :-)
>
> (oreilly.com lists 28 Perl books, and only 4 Tcl books)
>
> Bob
> --
When I feel especially malicious, I suspect that is the reason for the
popularity of C++ as well. I have read many a book on Perl, just to be
sure that I understand all of its syntax and what not. I still need to
consult books if I program something in Perl - maybe it is lack of
practice - but I do find its wild range of operators confusing. And
especially the magic it is so proud about.
We should make Tcl/Tk very difficult. People would be proud then that
they have mastered it.
Regards,
Arjen
lvi...@yahoo.com
:booth). But I too see that it's now listed as out-of-print.
Note that after looking around a bit, I notice that at http://www.ora.com/op/
is a list of all the editions of all the O'Reilly books that are out of
print, along with the date it went out of print. Tcl/Tk Tools is listed
with a date of 11/01 .
I contacted O'Reilly's and asked if they would put this book onto their
http://www.ora.com/openbook/ site. The reply was that it would be
added to the list of potential additions, but that resources were small
for that project. So I don't know know when, or if, the book will ever
appear on the openbook site.
lvi...@yahoo.com
According to Bob Techentin <techenti...@mayo.edu>:
:Maybe if Tcl/Tk were harder to learn, or more confusing, or you needed
:to look things up a lot when you were using it. Then people would by
:more books. :-)
:
:(oreilly.com lists 28 Perl books, and only 4 Tcl books)
P.S. one of those is the small reference guide - right?
lvi...@yahoo.com
According to Arjen Markus <Arjen....@wldelft.nl>:
:We should make Tcl/Tk very difficult. People would be proud then that
:they have mastered it.
Bob Techentin
>
> :(oreilly.com lists 28 Perl books, and only 4 Tcl books)
>
> P.S. one of those is the small reference guide - right?
Tcl/Tk in a Nutshell, 1999, Raines and Tranter
Tcl/Tk Tools, 1997, Harrison
Tcl/Tk Pocket Reference, 1998, Raines
Exploring Expect, 1994, Libes