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Michael Reichenbach

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Jun 24, 2007, 7:09:11 PM6/24/07
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Which ide for tcl has the most features? I mean an professional ide. Can
be commecial. Best = the most features. The more features, the better.

From that view eclipse or kommodo are the best?

3rdshiftcoder

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Jun 24, 2007, 10:28:25 PM6/24/07
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have you checked TCL Dev Kit at activestate's site?
if i coded for my job, it looks very cool.
many people say if there are features that will save
you time that a programmers time is worth spending
the cash to get it.

i think the debugging in eclipse is purchased through an
activestate license. this may change in the future.

you can justify almost anything. just put the money
down and BAM- Dev Kit is yours :-)

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Gerald W. Lester

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Jun 24, 2007, 11:31:03 PM6/24/07
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Kommodo -- Eclipse has a way to go for any decent size project.

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Cameron Laird

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Jun 25, 2007, 4:26:38 AM6/25/07
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In article <aKGfi.191111$nh4....@newsfe20.lga>,

Gerald W. Lester <Gerald...@cox.net> wrote:
>Michael Reichenbach wrote:
>> Which ide for tcl has the most features? I mean an professional ide. Can
>> be commecial. Best = the most features. The more features, the better.
>>
>> From that view eclipse or kommodo are the best?
>
>Kommodo -- Eclipse has a way to go for any decent size project.
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Gerald, please elaborate.

I *think* you're saying that Komodo <URL: http://wiki.tcl.tk/1958 >
is better, and specifically that Eclipse scales poorly--do I have
that right? There's a quite large Eclipse community that specifically
claims the opposite, that is, that Eclipse is good for big team
projects.

I think they're wrong, that is, that Eclipse demands a lot of resources,
and falls over with big projects.

Michael Reichenbach

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Jun 25, 2007, 8:03:50 AM6/25/07
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Seams I didn`t miss any other big professional products.

Right now I find the Komodo ide trial better then eclipse. Why? Komodo
has source code completion and syntax tooltips.

Just one more question. Tcl Dev Kit and Tcl Pro is just Komodo ide
bundled with tcl tools (debugger/compiler)? Or is this a hole other ide?

Gerald W. Lester

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Jun 25, 2007, 8:52:32 AM6/25/07
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I think Komodo is better, it scales better.

This is based on my evaluation of Eclipse with the DLTK plugin on a Tcl
project of about 100,000 lines of code (and comments) spread (unevenly) over
185 files. With a Tcl/Tk project of that size, Eclipse takes almost two
minutes on a Windows XP system with a 2GHz processor, 2GB of RAM and nothing
else running.

Larry W. Virden

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Jun 25, 2007, 9:26:33 AM6/25/07
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On Jun 24, 7:09 pm, Michael Reichenbach <Reichenb...@discardmail.com>
wrote:

> Which ide for tcl has the most features? I mean an professional ide. Can
> be commecial. Best = the most features. The more features, the better.
>
> From that view eclipse or kommodo are the best?

I don't know that I've ever seen anyone prepare a comparison between
the various IDEs. Be aware that most people will suggest Komodo. I
typically suggest people read over http://wiki.tcl.tk/IDE which
attempts to at least catalog a variety of IDEs, either commercial or
free, that are available. And certainly if someone out there reading
this says "hey, my pet project/product/favorite isn't listed... well,
it is a wiki, which means you can add new info ."

Jeff Hobbs

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Jun 25, 2007, 1:10:52 PM6/25/07
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The bundle of Tcl Dev Kit and Komodo is ActiveTcl Pro Studio, which also
provides you a subscription to O'Reilly's online bookshelf. While the
Tcl Dev Kit has its own debugger, it has no editor. Tcl Dev Kit is a
suite of tools to assist in development, whereas Komodo is a
feature-rich IDE that supports multiple languages (Tcl included, and it
does it very well). Included in the tools suite are a debugger, static
syntax checker, cross-reference code analyzer, code coverage and hotspot
analyzer, runtime inspector, single-file executable wrapper and a couple
more tools to boot.

Jeff

3rdshiftcoder

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Jun 25, 2007, 7:59:06 PM6/25/07
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michael-

i had the products mixed up in my mind.
i am glad jeff cleared it up for you.
BIG sorry about that :-(

i hope you get the technology that is right
for you.

activestate sure makes cool stuff.

later,
jim


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