More Jobs at Scriptics!
Jeffrey Hobbs
questions and absorbing answers. Don't kick the habit - get paid for it!
Scriptics currently has several engineer positions open, including
Consulting Engineer and Software Engineer. If you have a strong
background with Tcl, XML, ActiveX, and/or C/C++, take a look at:
http://www.scriptics.com/company/jobs.html
Scriptics provides a highly energized environment that is intellectually
stimulating and very fun at the same time. After a good day's work, you
can attempt to beat me at a round of ping pong or darts, both of which are
strategically located next to the test machines. Located in Mountain
View, California, you get sun, sun, sun 300 days a year. Even if you
weren't thinking about that job move, you should consider it - this is the
place to be for front-line development of the Tcl and XML tools of the
future.
--
Jeffrey Hobbs The Tcl Guy
jeffrey.hobbs at scriptics.com Scriptics Corp.
Robin Becker
<jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
wot nuffink abaht the beer?
--
Robin Becker
Scott Redman
-- Scott
Jeffrey Hobbs
Oh, most definitely there is beer. We have an entire soda cooler full
of soda, with one good shelf of beer. Every Thursday we have a bash to
drag people away from the monitors (somehow this isn't as much of a
problem for the marketing side of the building :^) ). The last one was
tapas, but there has also been wine tasting, chocolate tastings, mmmm...
Is it Thursday yet?
So, enough to consider making you jump the pond? I did, and now I am
enjoying driving around in a convertible getting a sun tan.
The Ball Family
> Robin Becker wrote:
> > wot nuffink abaht the beer?
>
> Oh, most definitely there is beer. We have an entire soda cooler full
> of soda, with one good shelf of beer.
That's not the correct ratio. Totally unacceptable. I wouldn't work in
any place
with soft drinks contaminating the fridge.
Cheers,
Steve Ball
Frederic BONNET
Jeffrey Hobbs wrote:
>
> All right, so you spend your days lurking on comp.lang.tcl answering
> questions and absorbing answers. Don't kick the habit - get paid for it!
[...]
Too sad I have to complete my PhD first :'-(((
--
Frédéric BONNET frederi...@ciril.fr
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Theory may inform, but Practice convinces"
George Bain
Phil
This offer is so plainly and baldly an attempt to lure Mr. Ball
that I can see it even through the beer haze...
Robin Becker
<peh...@ligo.caltech.edu> writes
because I go down to the pub to drink. Of course back home in a drunken
haze I always forget to drink the 2 pints of water that's alleged to
prevent the hangover. Probably I need a see through fridge or a new
significant other or whatever.
--
Robin Becker
Heribert Dahms
: I normally keep some kind of diet soft drink in the fridge, but that's
: because I go down to the pub to drink. Of course back home in a drunken
: haze I always forget to drink the 2 pints of water that's alleged to
: prevent the hangover. Probably I need a see through fridge or a new
: significant other or whatever.
How many of you had actually a beer open while writing this thread like me?
Bye, Heribert (da...@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)
Phil
>
>How many of you had actually a beer open while writing this thread like me?
>
This would be considered off-topic on the Perl newsgroups.
Tcl, the beer of languages... The language of beer drinkers!
Goes great with a BLT...
Robin Becker
<DA...@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes
>In <5oqv9CAC...@jessikat.demon.co.uk> ro...@jessikat.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>: I normally keep some kind of diet soft drink in the fridge, but that's
>: because I go down to the pub to drink. Of course back home in a drunken
>: haze I always forget to drink the 2 pints of water that's alleged to
>: prevent the hangover. Probably I need a see through fridge or a new
>: significant other or whatever.
>
>
>
mumble, m7mble mumble etc etc beerr doh duh doh
--
Robin Becker
Donal K. Fellows
<ro...@jessikat.demon.co.uk> writes
>Of course back home in a drunken
>haze I always forget to drink the 2 pints of water that's alleged to
>prevent the hangover.
I find that drinking water really does help a lot (virtually all the
unpleasantness of hangovers is due to dehydration.) Conversely, if
you've not drunk enough fluid, you can get a hangover without using
alcohol to get yourself merry first... :^(
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows (at home)
--
FOOLED you! Absorb EGO SHATTERING impulse rays, polyester poltroon!!
Donal K. Fellows
<jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
>Oh, most definitely there is beer. We have an entire soda cooler full
>drag people away from the monitors (somehow this isn't as much of a
>problem for the marketing side of the building :^) ). The last one was
>tapas, but there has also been wine tasting, chocolate tastings, mmmm...
But important stuff first. Just how strong is the coffee? Are we
talking (in order from weakest to strongest) Mellow Birds, Maxwell
House, Nescafé, Nescafé Alta Rica, filter, espresso or how I like it[*]?
>Is it Thursday yet?
In an hour or so as I write this...
>So, enough to consider making you jump the pond? I did, and now I am
>enjoying driving around in a convertible getting a sun tan.
Well, I've got a friend working up at Ames.
Donal.
[* A heavy meal and much alcohol are needed before I'll have a decent
full-strength coffee in the evening; I value my sleep! ]
Jeffrey Hobbs
> In article <37DED03D...@scriptics.com>, Jeffrey Hobbs
> <jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
> >Oh, most definitely there is beer. We have an entire soda cooler full
> >of soda, with one good shelf of beer. Every Thursday we have a bash to
> >drag people away from the monitors (somehow this isn't as much of a
> >problem for the marketing side of the building :^) ). The last one was
> >tapas, but there has also been wine tasting, chocolate tastings, mmmm...
>
> But important stuff first. Just how strong is the coffee? Are we
> talking (in order from weakest to strongest) Mellow Birds, Maxwell
> House, Nescafé, Nescafé Alta Rica, filter, espresso or how I like it[*]?
Oh, we have an espresso machine (one of those that takes the fresh
beans, grinds them and makes the espresso for you). That and a coffee
machine that magically makes a full pot of coffee every morning. I
think we must have a coffee fairy here somewhere. It must be related
to the bagel and donut fairy... I tell you, it is a magical place to
work at.
> >So, enough to consider making you jump the pond? I did, and now I am
> >enjoying driving around in a convertible getting a sun tan.
>
> Well, I've got a friend working up at Ames.
We're not shy about stealing good employees from others...
Jeffrey Hobbs
> In article <37E0274D...@scriptics.com>, Jeffrey Hobbs
> <jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
> ...
> so I'll come visit. It's only the pond right?
And with an org line called "Web-Waders", it should be an easy trip...
Robin Becker
<jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
...
so I'll come visit. It's only the pond right?
Robin Becker
Richard.Suchenwirth
>
> Tcl, the beer of languages... The language of beer drinkers!
> Goes great with a BLT...
My nomination for Quote of the Week!
More on Tcl and beer at http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki/518.html
--
Schoene Gruesse/best regards, Richard Suchenwirth - +49-7531-86 2703
(with a cup of STRONG coffee next to me ;-)
RC DT2, Siemens Electrocom, Buecklestr. 1-5, D-78467 Konstanz,Germany
-------------- http://purl.org/thecliff/tcl/wiki//Richard*Suchenwirth
Donal K. Fellows
Jeffrey Hobbs <jeffre...@scriptics.com> wrote:
> "Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>> Jeffrey Hobbs <jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
>>> So, enough to consider making you jump the pond? I did, and now I am
>>> enjoying driving around in a convertible getting a sun tan.
>>
>> Well, I've got a friend working up at Ames.
>
> We're not shy about stealing good employees from others...
But I doubt you'd really want him, since he's not a scripting guy.
'Course, if you're expanding into the area of on-the-fly model
checking, then he is exactly who you want... :^)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~fellowsd/ fell...@cs.man.ac.uk
-- The small advantage of not having California being part of my country would
be overweighed by having California as a heavily-armed rabid weasel on our
borders. -- David Parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>
Iain B. Findleton
>
> Robin Becker wrote:
>
> --
> Jeffrey Hobbs The Tcl Guy
> jeffrey.hobbs at scriptics.com Scriptics Corp.
Oh, to have a job in sunny california....! The endless expressways
jammed with convertibles! Movie stars running hither and yon! The
boardwalk at Laguna Beach!!!!
What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
number of people with gaggles of experience (> 30 yrs in my case),
advanced educations (2 Masters degrees here, lots of PhDs on the group
as well) and many "nerds" who have apparently memorized the source for
Tcl/Tk from one end to the other, who will lurk on comp.lang.tcl all day
and answer questions for free!
Only thought I have is that by paying people, you can expect them to
present information in a manner supportive to a (perhaps corporate)
point of view, as opposed to the sometimes testie nature of the
observations that appear here.
--
Iain B. Findleton
http://pages.infinit.net/cclients
custom...@videotron.ca
(514)457-0744
Robin Becker
<ifind...@videotron.ca> writes
fake values of the finance types who seem to control everything in uncool Britannia.
Before that I worked in a university which was nice, but without much recompense.
California viewed through a cynics gaze sounds bad, but we have endless traffic jams
as well and appalling beaches.
I guess Jeff does more than lurk. I lurk because I can't be bothered to go and sign on
at the labour exchange or whatever they're calling it these days. Eventually economics
will force me to get a job; some guys from the bank I used to work for have been
sniffing around already.
I haven't been to the US for 5 years; maybe it's time I got my act together and had a
holiday.
--
Robin Becker
Iain B. Findleton
> > "Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
> >> Jeffrey Hobbs <jeffre...@scriptics.com> writes
> >>> So, enough to consider making you jump the pond? I did, and now I am
> >>> enjoying driving around in a convertible getting a sun tan.
> >>
> >> Well, I've got a friend working up at Ames.
> >
> > We're not shy about stealing good employees from others...
>
> But I doubt you'd really want him, since he's not a scripting guy.
> 'Course, if you're expanding into the area of on-the-fly model
> checking, then he is exactly who you want... :^)
>
> Donal.
What I always failed to envy at Ames were the marine guards with huge
guns that always eyed you leaving the distinct impression that blowing
you away would provide a welcome departure from the daily monotony of
safeguarding the secrets of the free world.
Iain B. Findleton
> California viewed through a cynics gaze sounds bad,
Oh, I love California. Its a great place to live and work, especially if
you can get into someplace that is outside of the megalopolis, or
something in close proximity to San Francisco. You need to have a
significant dollar amount written on your pay stub if you plan to get
into family life in the suburbs without a > 2 hour commute, but its that
way everywhere these days.
>
> I haven't been to the US for 5 years; maybe it's time I got my act together and had a
> holiday.
Well, for holidays, I like bicycle touring in England, with Vermont as a
close second. Despite what has been said about the beer benefits of
employment at Scriptics, I can assure you that any of the pubs serviced
by the Henley Brewery provide a thurst quencher that is more to my own
taste than anything that you will find in the soft drink machine in
Mountain View!
Scott Redman
>
> Robin Becker wrote:
>
> > California viewed through a cynics gaze sounds bad,
>
> Oh, I love California. Its a great place to live and work, especially if
> you can get into someplace that is outside of the megalopolis, or
> something in close proximity to San Francisco. You need to have a
> significant dollar amount written on your pay stub if you plan to get
> into family life in the suburbs without a > 2 hour commute, but its that
> way everywhere these days.
We're less than an hour (without traffic) from San Francisco proper,
near the base of the Peninsula. I drive 20-25 minutes from the suburb
of Fremont, CA to work. You could drive 5 minutes from the suburbs
of Mountain View, Palo Alto, etc. Hmm... The San Jose area (which
is really where we're closer to) is less of a megalopolis than most
"big cities". Traffic _can_ suck, but there are ways to get around
that.
Some of the people at Scriptics live in S.F., Bryan Surles lives
on Telegraph Hill (you know, the hill you drive up to get to Coit
Tower...awesome view...). The drive is about 45min to an hour.
Now, I used to live outside of Los Angeles...never do that again!
But LA (including Hollywood) and Southern California are very
different from SF Bay Area and Northern California.
> >
> > I haven't been to the US for 5 years; maybe it's time I got my act together and had a
> > holiday.
>
> Well, for holidays, I like bicycle touring in England, with Vermont as a
> close second. Despite what has been said about the beer benefits of
> employment at Scriptics, I can assure you that any of the pubs serviced
> by the Henley Brewery provide a thurst quencher that is more to my own
> taste than anything that you will find in the soft drink machine in
> Mountain View!
>
There are several of us (not including myself, yet) who roller blade, go
running, or bicycling around Shoreline Park, which is about 100yds away
from the office.
Can you tell, I like the SF Bay Area? Lived here for 10 years...
-- Scott
Hume Smith
>Robin Becker wrote:
>
>> California viewed through a cynics gaze sounds bad,
>
>significant dollar amount written on your pay stub if you plan to get
>into family life in the suburbs without a > 2 hour commute, but its that
>way everywhere these days.
When's someone going to discover Halifax?
comparativley Sane traffic
Scenery
Socialised medicine
Decent weather
at least six universities
frighteningly cheap land
--
<URL:http://www.glinx.com/~hclsmith/>
Iain B. Findleton
>
> There are several of us (not including myself, yet) who roller blade, go
> running, or bicycling around Shoreline Park, which is about 100yds away
> from the office.
>
> Can you tell, I like the SF Bay Area? Lived here for 10 years...
>
> -- Scott
Well, if Scriptics has a gang that plays soccer after work, I will have
to capitulate and e-mail my resume!
Actually, I have been to Mountain View. I am sure you can be happy
there.
I would also be quite willing to lurk on comp.lang.tcl all day answering
questions for, say, a case of select wine from Napa Valley shipped to my
home every week. For 2 cases, I will implement a global weather
forecasting model in Tcl/Tk! (However, at the 2 case level, the quality
of the forecasts may leave something to be desired....)
Jeffrey Hobbs
> What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
> lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
> number of people with gaggles of experience (> 30 yrs in my case),
> advanced educations (2 Masters degrees here, lots of PhDs on the group
> as well) and many "nerds" who have apparently memorized the source for
> Tcl/Tk from one end to the other, who will lurk on comp.lang.tcl all day
> and answer questions for free!
Actually, by drawing on those "nerds" that lurk here, we are hoping
to get people with just such experience. In the end, don't expect
that you'll get paid to answer newsgroup questions. While that is
part of my job description, it is a much smaller element than most,
and my participation on the newsgroup is lower now than when I had
oodles of free time in college (although hopefully more to the
point and informative).
Generally, we are looking for those with an interest in Tcl to work
on Tcl's future, or to develop cutting edge Tcl based products. I
can honestly say I really enjoy working here, doing what I do.
lvi...@cas.org
According to Iain B. Findleton <ifind...@videotron.ca>:
:What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
:lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
Perhaps there was a problem in translating the English Jeff spoke.
Jeff started this thread by indicating that _if_ someone were lurking
about on the newsgroup now, answering questions, etc. THEN, they should
consider applying for a job at Scriptics. He did not mean that the
job would consist of lurking around the newsgroup for some nefarious
purposes...
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<*> O- <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/>
Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting
should be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
Jeffrey Hobbs
> Jeffrey Hobbs wrote:
> > Scriptics currently has several engineer positions open, including.....
> > Located in Mountain
> > View, California, you get sun, sun, sun 300 days a year.
>
To be honest, the pay is somewhat comensurate, although housing is
really out of this world here. The real kick is in the stock options.
When you have faith in your company (and there's no doubt I feel
Scriptics has what it takes), you will do better in stock than you
can in pay most other places. That picks up the slack.
Allen Flick
> Scriptics currently has several engineer positions open, including.....
> Located in Mountain
> View, California, you get sun, sun, sun 300 days a year.
Just curious, do they pay enough to live there? I just interviewed
with a company north of San Francisco, where housing is real cheap
by CA standards. I was shocked to see that a new 1500 sq ft house
with virtually -no- yard, front or back, runs in the neighborhood of
$225,000. That will buy quite a bit bigger home here in the Dallas,
TX area. At least twice as big, with a yard big enough to add in
a swimming pool, if desired.
If the pay is right, I guess the housing cost is no big deal. And, in
a strange way, I'm hoping the company comes thru with enuf $$
to justify moving there.
I'm just curious about pay scales down in Silicon Valley, where
Scriptics is.
I know a couple that were born & raised in that area. When a Dallas
area company bought them several years ago, they took a trip to Big
D and in the first day, after only looking at houses, decided to move
here. Sold the house in CA, paid cash for the much bigger house &
yard in TX, and pocketed a few $grand for other investments.
=================================================
Allen Flick : Research is what I'm doing when
I don't know what I'm doing.
=================================================
Greg Martin
<ifind...@videotron.ca> wrote:
>Well, for holidays, I like bicycle touring in England, with Vermont as a
>close second. Despite what has been said about the beer benefits of
>employment at Scriptics, I can assure you that any of the pubs serviced
>by the Henley Brewery provide a thurst quencher that is more to my own
>taste than anything that you will find in the soft drink machine in
>Mountain View!
>
But with the Sierra Nevada Brewing Company hard at work how can that
be? Then theirs Grant's up in Yakima Washington and the Portland
Brewing Company. Surely you don't need a Canadian to tell you where
the good beer is to be found in your part of the world.
Regards,
Greg Martin.
Robin Becker
>
>According to Iain B. Findleton <ifind...@videotron.ca>:
>:What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
>:lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
>
>Perhaps there was a problem in translating the English Jeff spoke.
>Jeff started this thread by indicating that _if_ someone were lurking
>about on the newsgroup now, answering questions, etc. THEN, they should
>consider applying for a job at Scriptics. He did not mean that the
>job would consist of lurking around the newsgroup for some nefarious
>purposes...
>
centurio are you guys kidding wow you're doing it etc etc
--
Robin Becker
Donal K. Fellows
Hume Smith <hcls...@glinx.deliver-me-from-evil.com> wrote:
> When's someone going to discover Halifax?
Which Halifax is that?
Donal K. Fellows
> questions for, say, a case of select wine from Napa Valley shipped to my
> home every week. For 2 cases, I will implement a global weather
> forecasting model in Tcl/Tk! (However, at the 2 case level, the quality
> of the forecasts may leave something to be desired....)
Stick to global economic forecasts instead. Two cases per week will
at least leave you no worse off than anyone else...
David Oppenheimer
Federal Reserve ? How about an Alan Greenspan forecaster built entirely in Tcl/Tk
instead?
David O.
Iain B. Findleton
>
> Who needs Global Economic Forecasts when we have Alan Greenspan, chairman of the
> Federal Reserve ? How about an Alan Greenspan forecaster built entirely in Tcl/Tk
> instead?
>
> David O.
Um...errr...didn't I see something about
expr rand()
being part of the core since 8.0????
Iain B. Findleton
>
> According to Iain B. Findleton <ifind...@videotron.ca>:
> :What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
> :lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
>
> Perhaps there was a problem in translating the English Jeff spoke.
> Jeff started this thread by indicating that _if_ someone were lurking
> about on the newsgroup now, answering questions, etc. THEN, they should
> consider applying for a job at Scriptics. He did not mean that the
> job would consist of lurking around the newsgroup for some nefarious
> purposes...
>
That must be it! I am from a place called Quebec, where french is the
local language.....To anyone who has felt even the slightest insult from
any of my intercessions in this stream, please accept my heartfelt
appologies.
Iain B. Findleton
>
> Which Halifax is that?
>
Its a UNIX based fax program. I discovered it years ago, but I confess
that I do tend to use the MS Windows tools that came with my HP printer.
Iain B. Findleton
> >:What I wonder, however, is exactly why Scriptics wants to pay people to
> >:lurk on comp.lang.tcl and answer questions. There appear to be any
> >
> >Perhaps there was a problem in translating the English Jeff spoke.
> >Jeff started this thread by indicating that _if_ someone were lurking
> >about on the newsgroup now, answering questions, etc. THEN, they should
> >consider applying for a job at Scriptics. He did not mean that the
> >job would consist of lurking around the newsgroup for some nefarious
> >purposes...
> >
> centurio are you guys kidding wow you're doing it etc etc
> --
> Robin Becker
Es que, pienso que lo que passa aqui es que hablo frances, espanol,
poquito russe y allemagne, pero en ingles me falta la practica!
Quiera saber si Scriptics faltan algunos empleados que pueden andarse
por Buenos Aires para abrir el mercado Americana (no los E.U.) ? Tienen
tambien la cerveza muy saberosa en Argentina!
Now, this is really off topic !
Robin Becker
<ifind...@videotron.ca> writes
>Robin Becker wrote:
>>
....
>Now, this is really off topic !
on clpython. Unfortunately that was my buddy Greg who borrowed the
machine to do some emails. He's a bit off the scale (fancies my ex
girlfriend, reads Ayn Rand).
--
Robin Becker
Hume Smith
>>
>> Which Halifax is that?
oh yeah, sorry; the on in Nova Scotia :)
>Its a UNIX based fax program.
No, thst's Hylafax... but then, your part of Canada never did know or care the
Maritimes existed.
--
<URL:http://www.glinx.com/~hclsmith/>
Phil
>Robin Becker
...there is a sense of design integrity. Take, for instance, the milking
stool described herein. Turned one way, to face a cow, it performs its
task admirably. Turn it the other way so you're facing a pond filled
with catfish, and a whole new use of the stool quickly becomes
apparent.
urp.
Phil
Phil
>--
Stop cacheing me literally and we'll all apply...
Donal K. Fellows
<ro...@jessikat.demon.co.uk> writes
>He's a bit off the scale (fancies my ex
>girlfriend, reads Ayn Rand).
So he's not someone who would precisely welcome the activities of Keith
Halliwell? :^)
Donal.
--
Donal K. Fellows (at home)
--
FOOLED you! Absorb EGO SHATTERING impulse rays, polyester poltroon!!
Doug Hughes
> Donal K. Fellows wrote:
> >
> > Which Halifax is that?
> >
>
> Its a UNIX based fax program. I discovered it years ago, but I confess
> that I do tend to use the MS Windows tools that came with my HP printer.
>
That's 'Hyla'fax (nee flexfax).
Halifax is in Nova Scotia. ;)
Robin Becker
<do...@ugglan.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <kgyo$UAfxk...@jessikat.demon.co.uk>, Robin Becker
><ro...@jessikat.demon.co.uk> writes
>>He's a bit off the scale (fancies my ex
>>girlfriend, reads Ayn Rand).
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>So he's not someone who would precisely welcome the activities of Keith
>Halliwell? :^)
>
>Donal.
--
Robin Becker