Ai Wiki for Tcl
Arjen Markus
>
> http://extreme.magicalone.net/~moocow/ai/index.php?page=AiWiki may need
> your help, first in coding the main Alife AI Mind loop, then for Web-
> hosting the AI point of departure so that Tcl AI coders may build upon
> your initial code along multiple pathways of Tcl AI evolution.
>
> AT Murray
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> http://mind.sourceforge.net/tcl.html -- "Tcl AI Weblog"
Not being thoroughly familiar with AI programming, I wonder what it is
that you are asking exactly. Do you mean a Wiki-like environment for
communicating ideas on AI programming using Tcl?
In that case Wikit could provide a good starting point - just see
the Tcler's Wiki at <http://wiki.tcl.tk>
Regards,
Arjen
lvi...@yahoo.com
According to Arjen Markus <arjen....@wldelft.nl>:
:In that case Wikit could provide a good starting point - just see
:the Tcler's Wiki at <http://wiki.tcl.tk>
And the URL he quoted has pointers to the tcl'ers wiki web site, so he
knows about that.
I suspect he's recruiting developers.
The diagrams, etc. at the Original Poster (OP)'s web site seem familar
to me. Are they pretty standard AI diagrams, or is the OP just a new
id for someone who used to post about this topic a few years ago?
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Arthur T. Murray
> According to Arjen Markus <arjen....@wldelft.nl>:
>: In that case Wikit could provide a good starting point - just see
>: the Tcler's Wiki at <http://wiki.tcl.tk>
>
> And the URL he quoted has pointers to the tcl'ers wiki web site,
> so he knows about that.
>
> I suspect he's recruiting developers.
Yes, Tcl programmers into AI may see the whole story at
http://www.advogato.org/person/mentifex/ -- Diary.
>
> The diagrams, etc. at the Original Poster (OP)'s web site
> seem familar to me. Are they pretty standard AI diagrams,
No, the diagrams are unique and original to the AI4U textbook
http://isbn.nu/0595654371 -- hardbound AI4U textbook sources;
http://isbn.nu/0595259227 -- paperback AI4U textbook sources;
http://robots.net/person/AI4U/ -- personal info about author.
> or is the OP just a new id for someone who used to post
> about this topic a few years ago?
As the original poster (OP) I am the same Arthur T. Murray,
posting about open-source artificial intelligence since 1985.
Arjen Markus wrote:
> Not being thoroughly familiar with AI programming,
> I wonder what it is that you are asking exactly.
I would like to see some Tcl AI-coding help for the coders at
http://extreme.magicalone.net/~moocow/ai/index.php?page=AiWiki
> Do you mean a Wiki-like environment for
> communicating ideas on AI programming using Tcl?
Whoever will please code the main AI Mind loop in Tcl
and put the open-source Tcl AI code up on the Web --
HTML-ized if necessary for display -- will not have
to do any further work and will have "started the
ball rolling" by providing a foundation for Tcl AI.
Thanks in advance (TIA),
A.T. Murray
Tristan Miller
In article <4068...@news.victoria.tc.ca>, Arthur T. Murray wrote:
> As the original poster (OP) I am the same Arthur T. Murray,
> posting about open-source artificial intelligence since 1985.
I'm sad to see that Murray has now infested the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup.
For those unfamiliar with this notorious crank, please visit the
unofficial Arthur T. Murray FAQ: http://www.nothingisreal.com/mentifex
Regards,
Tristan
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Mike Tuxford
:Greetings.
:
:In article <4068...@news.victoria.tc.ca>, Arthur T. Murray wrote:
:> As the original poster (OP) I am the same Arthur T. Murray,
:> posting about open-source artificial intelligence since 1985.
:
:I'm sad to see that Murray has now infested the comp.lang.tcl newsgroup.
:For those unfamiliar with this notorious crank, please visit the
:unofficial Arthur T. Murray FAQ: http://www.nothingisreal.com/mentifex
:
:Regards,
:Tristan
Pity. Every once in awhile my interest in AI gets sparked but
then after a little exploring I become overwelmed by the subject
and feel it's all way too much over my head to even play around
with. I guess I lack the intelligence to reduce the process
to a simple set of rules to build upon.
What I do know is that programming needs a flow and I fail
to see any flow in his "flow chart". Too me, it was more
like a magician's incantation.
"Intelligence may be quantified (such as IQ) but it need not be
qualified. That is, If it's intelligence then it's not artificial.
AI is a misnomer. If it's intelligence, it's intelligence." --moogy
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Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
---------Litteral A.L.I.C.E. transcript (www.alicbot.org)--------------------------
>Pity
Quite honestly, I wouldn't worry myself about that.
> Every once in awhile my interest in AI gets sparked but then after a
> little exploring I become overwelmed by the subject and feel it's all
> way too much over my head to even play around with
That is a generalization.
> I guess I lack the intelligence to reduce the process to a simple set
> of rules to build upon
That is interesting: MIKE said LACK THE INTELLIGENCE
TO REDUCE THE PROCESS TO A SIMPLE SET OF RULES TO BUILD UPON.
> What I do know is that programming needs a flow and I fail to see
> any flow in his "flow chart"
How do you know? "That is interesting: MIKE said LACK THE INTELLIGENCE TO
REDUCE THE PROCESS TO A SIMPLE SET OF RULES TO BUILD UPON"? Is it
PROGRAMMING NEEDS A FLOW?
Why?: MIKE said PROGRAMMING NEEDS A FLOW.
> Too me
Too what?
> it was more like a magician's incantation
How did you feel about that?
> "Intelligence may be quantified (such as IQ) but it need not be qualified
All consciousness can be reduced to logic.
PROGRAMMING NEEDS A FLOW NEED NOT BE QUALIFIED?
> That is
Is that so.
> If it's intelligence then it's not artificial
So if not it is INTELLIGENCE, then not it is INTELLIGENCE.
> AI is a misnomer
There have been many futile attempts to create machine intelligence.
> If it's intelligence
That is a hypothetical question.
> it's intelligence
What do you look like?
>" --moogy -- _ _ ____ //\/\ike ||uxford (aka moogy) tuxford@earthlink
Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it.
>net
Perhaps I'm just expressing my own concern about it.
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Tristan Miller
In article <c49mr4$5dh$2...@srv38.cas.org>, lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
> According to Arjen Markus <arjen....@wldelft.nl>:
> :In that case Wikit could provide a good starting point - just see
> :the Tcler's Wiki at <http://wiki.tcl.tk>
>
> And the URL he quoted has pointers to the tcl'ers wiki web site, so he
> knows about that.
>
> I suspect he's recruiting developers.
>
> The diagrams, etc. at the Original Poster (OP)'s web site seem familar
> to me.
Not surprising considering he's been plastering them about Usenet in
various off-topic newsgroups for the last twenty years now.
> Are they pretty standard AI diagrams, or is the OP just a new
> id for someone who used to post about this topic a few years ago?
They're by no means standard AI diagrams. See my post elsewhere in this
thread.
Mike Tuxford
:Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:38:01 +0000, Mike Tuxford
:posted:
Well thank you alice. I did build your code once and was amused
for maybe 5 minutes.
re: AI misnomer
I was thinking something more along the lines of Intelligence
Without Life (IWL) or maybe Intelligence Absent of Life (IAL).
Wait a minute!... is this leading to AOL? naw... that's life
without intelligence. /me grabs the flame-resistant suit
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Dr. Flonkenstein
posted:
> In comp.lang.tcl Dr. Flonkenstein
> <gregoriy_rasp...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> :Being tired of lurking, on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:38:01 +0000, Mike Tuxford
> :posted:
>
> Well thank you alice. I did build your code once and was amused
> for maybe 5 minutes.
>
It takes more than 5 mins to see a "flow chart" into it all.
> re: AI misnomer
> I was thinking something more along the lines of Intelligence Without
> Life IWL) or maybe Intelligence Absent of Life (IAL).
Your scientifical thinking is too much linked to contaminated
philpsophical entropy.
> Wait a minute!... is
> this leading to AOL? naw... that's life without intelligence. /me grabs
> the flame-resistant suit
a Web-tb would suit you better :-)
Paul W.
It will amaze you.