installing BLT 2.4z
Wayne Dernoncourt
the current one, whatever that is, it's at work,
I'm not... The problem, for reasons to weird to
explain, I have little ability to write to the
C: drive, the sys admins reluctantly allowed MS
Office to write to the C: drive, but they tried
to find ways around that.
I have installed Tcl/Tk 8.4 to the D: drive
successfully. But when I try to install to install
BLT, I got a "Corrupt installation" error and the
install program quit. I'm willing to bet that it
didn't look anyplace but the C: drive. I have
downloaded and untarred/gzipped the tar file from
sourceforge. I looked through the rest of the
packages included with Tcl/Tk from ActiveState and
I'm trying to decipher some of the files, such as
the tap file. The install script looks like it
uses a routine called tclapp -scan to generate that
file.
I figured instead of trying to build BLT, maybe I
could extract the files from the executable file.
That might give me the guts of what is needed (the
DLL). Does anyone have any other words of wisdom
that I can try in the AM (or PM)?
--
Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't
Wayne D. | pay for this, etc. (directly anyway)
Dennis LaBelle
Go to http://freewrap.sourceforge.net/ and read a little about freeWrap.
Then download freeWrapPLUS at
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/freewrap/freewrapPLUS61.zip?download
The freeWrapPLUS.exe file contained within this distribution can be used
(after renaming it to another file name) as a single-file version of TCL/TK
with the BLT extension. Installation simply consists of copying the file to
any location. This is probably the easiest way of installing TCL/TK with
BLT you will find.
Dennis LaBelle (The freeWrap Guy)
Donald Arseneau
> I have installed Tcl/Tk 8.4 to the D: drive
> successfully. But when I try to install to install
> BLT, I got a "Corrupt installation" error and the
> install program quit.
I got something similar in a recent installation on Linux. It looks like
the configure script is not very good, and can't find the existing Tcl
installation properly.
Application initialization failed: Can't find a usable tk.tcl in ...
... This probably means that tk wasn't installed properly.
So I manually put the BLT lib files where they should have been, and
[package require] now works fine.
--
Donald Arseneau as...@triumf.ca
Bob Techentin
>
> I have little ability to write to the
> C: drive,
> BLT, I got a "Corrupt installation" error and the
> install program quit.
This is a feature of the BLT installation program for Windows. It has some
specific expectations, and if things don't look right, it reports "corrupt
installation" and aborts. I got this same error when trying to install on a
systm with a perfectly functional Tcl/Tk, but I didn't have administrator
rights. I think it is because you can't write to the windows system
directory.
Sooo, the only real trick is to get BLT files into the right places in the
Tcl installation. If you extract from the archive, and copy these files
into d:\tcl (or wherever), I think you'll get a functional BLT extension.
./bin:
BLT24.dll BLTlite24.dll bltsh.exe bltsh24.exe bltwish.exe bltwish24.exe
./include:
blt.h bltChain.h bltHash.h bltPool.h bltTree.h bltVector.h
./lib: BLT24.lib BLTlite24.lib blt2.4 tcl8.4
./lib/blt2.4:
NEWS bltGraph.pro dragdrop.tcl pkgIndex.tcl treeview.cur
PROBLEMS dd_protocols graph.tcl tabnotebook.tcl treeview.tcl
README demos hierbox.tcl tabset.tcl
bltCanvEps.pro dnd.tcl html tclIndex
./lib/blt2.4/dd_protocols:
dd-color.tcl dd-file.tcl dd-number.tcl dd-text.tcl tclIndex
./lib/blt2.4/demos:
barchart1.tcl dragdrop1.tcl hierbox3.tcl tabnotebook2.tcl
barchart2.tcl dragdrop2.tcl hierbox4.tcl tabnotebook3.tcl
barchart3.tcl eps.tcl hiertable1.tcl tabset1.tcl
barchart4.tcl graph1.tcl hiertable2.tcl tabset2.tcl
barchart5.tcl graph2.tcl hiertable3.tcl tabset3.tcl
bgexec1.tcl graph3.tcl htext.txt tabset4.tcl
bgexec2.tcl graph4.tcl htext1.tcl treeview1.tcl
bgexec3.tcl graph5.tcl images winop1.tcl
bgexec4.tcl graph6.tcl scripts winop2.tcl
bitmap.tcl graph7.tcl spline.tcl
bitmaps hierbox1.tcl stripchart1.tcl
busy1.tcl hierbox2.tcl tabnotebook1.tcl
./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps:
face.xbm greenback.xbm hobbes.xbm sharky.xbm
fish hand hobbes_mask.xbm xbob.xbm
./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps/fish:
left.xbm left1m.xbm mid.xbm right.xbm right1m.xbm
left1.xbm leftm.xbm midm.xbm right1.xbm rightm.xbm
./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps/hand:
hand01.xbm hand03m.xbm hand06.xbm hand08m.xbm hand11.xbm hand13m.xbm
hand01m.xbm hand04.xbm hand06m.xbm hand09.xbm hand11m.xbm hand14.xbm
hand02.xbm hand04m.xbm hand07.xbm hand09m.xbm hand12.xbm hand14m.xbm
hand02m.xbm hand05.xbm hand07m.xbm hand10.xbm hand12m.xbm
hand03.xbm hand05m.xbm hand08.xbm hand10m.xbm hand13.xbm
./lib/blt2.4/demos/images:
blt98.gif folder.gif mini-windows.gif sample.gif
buckskin.gif mini-book1.gif ofolder.gif smblue_rock.gif
chalk.gif mini-book2.gif open.gif stopsign.gif
close.gif mini-display.gif open2.gif tan_paper.gif
close2.gif mini-doc.gif out.ps tan_paper2.gif
clouds.gif mini-filemgr.gif qv100.t.gif txtrflag.gif
corrugated_metal.gif mini-ofolder.gif rain.gif
./lib/blt2.4/demos/scripts:
barchart2.tcl demo.tcl graph2.tcl graph8.tcl ps.tcl
xcolors.tcl
bgtest.tcl globe.tcl graph3.tcl page.tcl send.tcl
clone.tcl graph1.tcl graph5.tcl patterns.tcl stipples.tcl
./lib/blt2.4/html:
BLT.html bltdebug.html graph.html stripchart.html
treeview.html
barchart.html busy.html hierbox.html table.html vector.html
beep.html cutbuffer.html hiertable.html tabset.html watch.html
bgexec.html dragdrop.html htext.html tile.html winop.html
bitmap.html eps.html spline.html tree.html
./lib/tcl8.4/blt2.4:
pkgIndex.tcl
Good luck,
Bob
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Mayo Foundation (507) 538-5495
200 First St. SW FAX (507) 284-9171
Rochester MN, 55901 USA http://www.mayo.edu/sppdg/
Wayne Dernoncourt
> "Wayne Dernoncourt" <way...@panix.com> wrote
> >
> > I have little ability to write to the
> > C: drive,
> > ... when I try to install to install
> > BLT, I got a "Corrupt installation" error and the
> > install program quit.
> This is a feature of the BLT installation program for Windows. It has
> some specific expectations, and if things don't look right, it reports
> "corrupt installation" and aborts. I got this same error when trying
> to install on a systm with a perfectly functional Tcl/Tk, but I didn't
> have administrator rights. I think it is because you can't write to
> the windows system directory.
Actually, I can't write to most of the C: drive.
> Sooo, the only real trick is to get BLT files into the right places in
> the Tcl installation. If you extract from the archive, and copy these
> files into d:\tcl (or wherever), I think you'll get a functional BLT
> extension.
This list should help. I'll go into google groups in the AM and
look up the details. I was figuring that was the approach, I
doubt that I could've figured out this structure though, I was
going to be happy with plopping stuff in the blt2.4 directory
and hoping.
> ./bin:
> BLT24.dll BLTlite24.dll bltsh.exe bltsh24.exe bltwish.exe bltwish24.exe
<snip>
Thanks, it turns out that there are at least a few files that
have duplicate filenames in the tree (from memory,
bgraph1.tcl???). I don't know if there are multiple files
with the same name in different directories and WinZip didn't
maintain the tree structure or what.
Wayne Dernoncourt
<snip>
> Sooo, the only real trick is to get BLT files into the right places
> in the Tcl installation. If you extract from the archive, and copy
> these files into d:\tcl (or wherever), I think you'll get a
> functional BLT extension.
I built the tree described below and populated it with the
files that were unzipped with Winzip and moved into the
corresponding directories. Some directories ended up empty,
some partially filled... (my notes are at work...)
> ./bin:
> BLT24.dll BLTlite24.dll bltsh.exe bltsh24.exe bltwish.exe
> bltwish24.exe
The bin directory was empty!
> ./include:
> blt.h bltChain.h bltHash.h bltPool.h bltTree.h bltVector.h
The include directory had all of the files it was supposed to
have
> ./lib: BLT24.lib BLTlite24.lib blt2.4 tcl8.4
Two files and two directories, check
> ./lib/blt2.4:
> NEWS bltGraph.pro dragdrop.tcl pkgIndex.tcl
> treeview.cur
> PROBLEMS dd_protocols graph.tcl tabnotebook.tcl
> treeview.tcl
> README demos hierbox.tcl tabset.tcl
> bltCanvEps.pro dnd.tcl html tclIndex
Yup, all present (is pkgIndex.tcl here the same as the one
found in ./lib/tcl8.4/blt2.4)?
> ./lib/blt2.4/dd_protocols:
> dd-color.tcl dd-file.tcl dd-number.tcl dd-text.tcl tclIndex
Empty, there was a tclIndex file, but it's also needed elsewhere,
I put it elsewhere - used automake to generate this file (from
memory).
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos:
> barchart1.tcl dragdrop1.tcl hierbox3.tcl tabnotebook2.tcl
> barchart2.tcl dragdrop2.tcl hierbox4.tcl tabnotebook3.tcl
> barchart3.tcl eps.tcl hiertable1.tcl tabset1.tcl
> barchart4.tcl graph1.tcl hiertable2.tcl tabset2.tcl
> barchart5.tcl graph2.tcl hiertable3.tcl tabset3.tcl
> bgexec1.tcl graph3.tcl htext.txt tabset4.tcl
> bgexec2.tcl graph4.tcl htext1.tcl treeview1.tcl
> bgexec3.tcl graph5.tcl images winop1.tcl
> bgexec4.tcl graph6.tcl scripts winop2.tcl
> bitmap.tcl graph7.tcl spline.tcl
> bitmaps hierbox1.tcl stripchart1.tcl
> busy1.tcl hierbox2.tcl tabnotebook1.tcl
I think the demos were all there
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps:
> face.xbm greenback.xbm hobbes.xbm sharky.xbm
> fish hand hobbes_mask.xbm xbob.xbm
None of the bitmaps above where there, but the two
directories below were there.
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps/fish:
> left.xbm left1m.xbm mid.xbm right.xbm right1m.xbm
> left1.xbm leftm.xbm midm.xbm right1.xbm rightm.xbm
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos/bitmaps/hand:
> hand01.xbm hand03m.xbm hand06.xbm hand08m.xbm hand11.xbm hand13m.xbm
> hand01m.xbm hand04.xbm hand06m.xbm hand09.xbm hand11m.xbm hand14.xbm
> hand02.xbm hand04m.xbm hand07.xbm hand09m.xbm hand12.xbm hand14m.xbm
> hand02m.xbm hand05.xbm hand07m.xbm hand10.xbm hand12m.xbm
> hand03.xbm hand05m.xbm hand08.xbm hand10m.xbm hand13.xbm
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos/images:
> blt98.gif folder.gif mini-windows.gif sample.gif
> buckskin.gif mini-book1.gif ofolder.gif smblue_rock.gif
> chalk.gif mini-book2.gif open.gif stopsign.gif
> close.gif mini-display.gif open2.gif tan_paper.gif
> close2.gif mini-doc.gif out.ps tan_paper2.gif
> clouds.gif mini-filemgr.gif qv100.t.gif txtrflag.gif
> corrugated_metal.gif mini-ofolder.gif rain.gif
The blt98.gif, close.gif, close2.gif, open.gif, open2.gif and
sample.gif were present. The others were absent.
> ./lib/blt2.4/demos/scripts:
> barchart2.tcl demo.tcl graph2.tcl graph8.tcl ps.tcl
> xcolors.tcl
> bgtest.tcl globe.tcl graph3.tcl page.tcl send.tcl
> clone.tcl graph1.tcl graph5.tcl patterns.tcl stipples.tcl
Missing graph1.tcl ->graph5.tcl, there are files with
the same name in the some other (blt2.4/demos/) directory
> ./lib/blt2.4/html:
> BLT.html bltdebug.html graph.html stripchart.html
> treeview.html
> barchart.html busy.html hierbox.html table.html vector.html
> beep.html cutbuffer.html hiertable.html tabset.html watch.html
> bgexec.html dragdrop.html htext.html tile.html winop.html
> bitmap.html eps.html spline.html tree.html
No html files
> ./lib/tcl8.4/blt2.4:
> pkgIndex.tcl
Could this be the same file as that found earlier
(/lib/blt2.4)?
I think I'm going to have the sys admins try. No chance of
this going to the C: drive though.
Wayne Dernoncourt
> Bob Techentin <techenti...@mayo.edu> wrote:
> <snip>
> > Sooo, the only real trick is to get BLT files into the right places
> > in the Tcl installation. If you extract from the archive, and copy
> > these files into d:\tcl (or wherever), I think you'll get a
> > functional BLT extension.
> I built the tree described below and populated it with the
> files that were unzipped with Winzip and moved into the
> corresponding directories. Some directories ended up empty,
> some partially filled... (my notes are at work...)
<snip>
I forgot that there were some "extra" files, there was
wise0001.dll, rebootnt.exe, dosinst.exe and a series of
files file0001.dat -> file0010.dat (there may have been
a gap or two). A couple of the file00xx.dat were a
couple hundred k byte, the rest were up to 10k.
Bob Techentin
>
> I built the tree described below and populated it with the
> files that were unzipped with Winzip and moved into the
> corresponding directories. Some directories ended up empty,
> some partially filled... (my notes are at work...)
My sincere apologies, Wayne. I didn't intend to create so much work for
you.
When I ran into this installation problem, I installed a clean ActiveTcl,
then BLT, on a machine where I had the right privs. Then I just copied all
the new BLT files out to a separate directory tree, zipped them up, and took
them back to work. Now they live in a directory on a network disk, and I
can just copy them into any ActiveTcl installation, and it works.
But I've already got the files in the right hierarchy. I'll just zip them
up and email them to you. This is, after all, a BSD licensed package, and
there's nothing wrong with redistributing the files.
Come to think of it, maybe I'll submit my zip to blt.sourceforge.net as a
patch file that could be added to the files download area.
Bob Techentin
> Come to think of it, maybe I'll submit my zip to blt.sourceforge.
> net as a patch file that could be added to the files download area.
No dice. Sourceforge limits patch uploads to 256kB, and the BLT files are
over 1MB. But I submitted a patch proposing that such a file be made
available for download.
Wayne Dernoncourt
> "Wayne Dernoncourt" <way...@panix.com> wrote
> >
> > I built the tree described below and populated it with the
> > files that were unzipped with Winzip and moved into the
> > corresponding directories. Some directories ended up empty,
> > some partially filled... (my notes are at work...)
> My sincere apologies, Wayne. I didn't intend to create so much
> work for you.
> When I ran into this installation problem, I installed a clean
> ActiveTcl, then BLT, on a machine where I had the right privs.
> Then I just copied all the new BLT files out to a separate
> directory tree, zipped them up, and took them back to work.
> Now they live in a directory on a network disk, and I can just
> copy them into any ActiveTcl installation, and it works.
<snip>
I'm back, I went to an airshow, I watched a jet propelled
portajohn and a flying lawnmower. The portajohn was full
size, but I doubt it's usable anymore for it's original
purpose<g>, the flying lawn mower resembles a lawn mower
(largish, 3' wide deck) from 10 or 15 feet away and it
does fly (RC model).
http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2005/01/someone_definit.html
Back to the problem, I had one of the sys admins at work
pop the missing executables and DLL's into the bin
directory. I navigated to the blt demo's directory,
selected barchart1.tcl and used the "Open with" option
and found BLT2.4 (there where a couple of options) and
ended up with a crash. Repeat with the other blt
executable with the same result, something about not
being able to read location 0. Try a couple of others,
hiertable1.tcl works okay. Maybe I'm missing something
at work. Take things home to the WinXP home system,
install Active TCL 8.4 and then BLT 2.4 with the same
sort of results. If I start blt24shell, cd to the
directory and source the files, same exceptions. I
remember seeing the barchart show up ... somewhere.
My plan is to sit down tommorow and map out which
work and which don't work in some more detail. I'll
even get the actual error message down. In case it
matters, at work I have Win2k with Tcl 8.4 from
ActiveState (the downloaded version, not the pay
version), at home it's WinXP Home (again
ActiveState). In case it's important, neither
system has an internet connection. The one at work
is on a separate network, the one at home is pretty
much dedicated to being a flight simulator so I avoid
all virus scanners, etc. since it won't be hooked up
to the internet.
Bob Techentin
> I had one of the sys admins at work
> pop the missing executables and DLL's into the bin
> directory. I navigated to the blt demo's directory,
> selected barchart1.tcl and used the "Open with" option
> and found BLT2.4 (there where a couple of options) and
> ended up with a crash. Repeat with the other blt
> executable with the same result, something about not
> being able to read location 0. Try a couple of others,
> hiertable1.tcl works okay. Maybe I'm missing something
> at work. Take things home to the WinXP home system,
> install Active TCL 8.4 and then BLT 2.4 with the same
> sort of results. If I start blt24shell, cd to the
> directory and source the files, same exceptions. I
> remember seeing the barchart show up ... somewhere.
That's really strange. If you install ActiveTcl and BLT, you should be able
to click on those demo scripts, and they should run without a problem.
You're not running blt24sh.exe, are you? That's a tclsh equivalent, and you
want bltwish, or just wish, which should be able to load BLT.
Bob
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Bob Techentin techenti...@NOSPAMmayo.edu
Mayo Foundation (507) 538-5495
200 First St. SW FAX (507) 284-9171
Rochester MN, 55901 USA http://www.mayo.edu/sppdg/
)
Wayne Dernoncourt
> My plan is to sit down tommorow and map out which
> work and which don't work in some more detail. I'll
> even get the actual error message down. In case it
> matters, at work I have Win2k with Tcl 8.4 from
> ActiveState (the downloaded version, not the pay
> version), at home it's WinXP Home (again
> ActiveState).
Sad state of affairs, I'm having to follow up
my own posting<sigh>.
Here is what I've found out.
- - - -
All run with bltwish24, comparing a half dozen entries using
bltwish revealed no differences.
General comments:
- tryng to use zoom seemed to result in a "Runtime error"
and a crash
- I can highlight a series in the legend and the points in the
graph appear in blue, but I can't roll over a point and have
it highlight in the legend
- "can't read "cosX(max)": no such element in array" seems to
result from an expression used repeatedly (see tabnotebook2.tcl,
tabnotebook3.tcl, tabset2.tcl, tabset3.tcl). I'm guessing
fixing that will fix all of the instances, I haven't done much
with Tcl/Tk in a couple of years, it looks like greek to me
right now
- a bunch of the crashes reference the following error message:
"instruction 0x1004ab96 referenced memory at 0x00000000"
this failure can either happen immediately (a plain crash)
or a graph, diagram, etc. can appear and then crash
(see barchart1.tcl, barchart3.tcl, barchart4.tcl, graph1.tcl,
graph3.tcl, graph4.tcl, htext1.tcl)
- some of the tab demo's (tabnotebook?.tcl and tabset?.tcl)
only have a page or two of graph or image
(see tabnotebook1.tcl, tabnotebook2.tcl, tabnotebook3.tcl,
tabset1.tcl, tabset2.tcl, tabset3.tcl)
barchart1.tcl - crashes, instruction 0x1004ab96 referenced memory
at 0x00000000
barchart2.tcl - fails, invalid command name, ".header.stacked"
barchart3.tcl - draws chart and crashes - I see a shark, a blue bar,
green bitmap bar (teddy bear? tiger?), red bar,
different cross hatched pattern bars
instruction at 0x1004ab9b....
barchart4.tcl - see barchart1.tcl
barchart5.tcl - fails, can't read "graph": no such variable
bgexec1.tcl - seems to work
bgexec2.tcl - fails; can't execute du, changing
du to dir and it's fine
bgexec3.tcl - fails & fixable; no files matched glob
pattern
"C:/Program Files/Tcl/bin/tclsh8*.exe"
changing the path to reflect the actual
location and it's fine
bgexec4.tcl - see bgexec3.tcl
bgexec5.tcl - seems to work, then again since it does call
barchart1.tcl, barchart3.tcl and barchart4.tcl ...
bitmap.tcl - seems to work
bitmap2.tcl - seems to work
busy1.tcl - seems to work, not clear how to test
busy2.tcl - seems to work, not clear how to test
container.tcl - fails; can't execute "xterm"
container3.tcl - crashes; instruction 0x00422254 referenced memory
at 0x0006272; a window was created (top4), the
default window was resized and four checkboxes added
dnd1.tcl - fails; invalid command name "dnd"
dnd2.tcl - fails; only works under X11
dragdrop1.tcl - seems to work
dragdrop2.tcl - seems to work
eps.tcl - didn't crash, didn't burn, didn't seem to do anything...
graph1.tcl - crashes; the default wish window resized, see
barchart1.tcl
graph2.tcl - seems to work
graph3.tcl - draws graph & crashes, see barchart1.tcl
graph4.tcl - draws graph & crashes, see barchart1.tcl
graph5.tcl - seems to work
graph6.tcl - seems to work
graph7.tcl - seems to work
hierbox1.tcl - seems to work
hierbox2.tcl - seems to work
hierbox3.tcl - fails; list element in quotes followed by ":"
instead of space
hierbox4.tcl - seems to work
hiertable1.tcl - seems to work
hiertable2.tcl - seems to work
hiertable3.tcl - seems to work
htext1.tcl - crashes, see barchart1.tcl
spline.tcl - seems to work
stripchart1.tcl - seems to work, warning message when I tried to change
the warning symbol(?)
tabnotebook1.tcl- maybe! as long as there only supposed to be one tab
filled (out of four), everything else seems to work
tabnotebook2.tcl- maybe! there is a total two graphs in the notebook,
graph#1 widget, there is also an error message:
"can't read "cosX(max)": no such element in array"
tabnotebook3.tcl- maybe! I can see two graphs, graph#1 and tab5 along
with the same error message as in tabnotebook2.tcl
tabset1.tcl - seems to work
tabset2.tcl - maybe! I can see one graph (Graph #1), I get the
same error message as the one in tabnotebook2.tcl
tabset3.tcl - maybe! I see one graph (Image), Graph #1 is present
at start-up, if I view another tab and then try to
look at graph #1 again, the tab is there, but the
graphic is gone, I also get the same error that I
get for tabnotebook2.tcl
tabset4.tcl - seems to work
tour.tcl - fails; couldn't open "/home/gah/Pics/Ex1.gif": no
such file or directory
treeview1.tcl - seems to work
winop1.tcl - seems to work
winop2.tcl - seems to work
Is that enough detail?