What is the web browser support tcl?
Kim SangHoon
In HTML specification, I saw TCL to client-side script language.
I know that Netscape negivator can be interpreter the javascript,
and that Explorer can be interpreter the Jscript and the VBscript.
What is web browser that can interperter the TCL?
Cameron Laird
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Bill Gleim
> >I know that Netscape negivator can be interpreter the javascript,
> >and that Explorer can be interpreter the Jscript and the VBscript.
> >What is web browser that can interperter the TCL?
> <URL:http://www.scriptics.com/software/plugin.html>
Should I take this to mean any web browser with these plugins will allow
tcl as an embedded client-side html scripting language?
Laurent Demailly
(or have plans to support) client side tcl/html scripting.
(browsers written in Tcl such as Steve Ball's do though)
The Tcl plugin is a way to have "tclets" like there
are java applets.
I think the language list in the specs is theoritical
and the only one actually deployed are JavaScript and
to a lesser extent (M$ only) VB.
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Steve Ball
>
> > >In HTML specification, I saw TCL to client-side script language.
> > >I know that Netscape negivator can be interpreter the javascript,
> > >and that Explorer can be interpreter the Jscript and the VBscript.
> > >What is web browser that can interperter the TCL?
>
> > <URL:http://www.scriptics.com/software/plugin.html>
>
> Should I take this to mean any web browser with these plugins will allow
> tcl as an embedded client-side html scripting language?
No, not quite. The Tcl Plugin allows "Tclets" to be embedded in a page,
ala Java applets. It does not allow Tcl to replace JavaScript for scripting
pages themselves. However, the Tcl Plugin does provide a mechanism for
sending JavaScript to the browser.
There is an opportunity now to add Tcl as a page scripting language to Mozilla.
I posted an article to this newsgroup a long time ago seeking volunteers, but
I never got a reply :-(
There's also Plume, which uses Tcl for everything, including page scripting.
Unfortunately it's been a while since I've had a chance to work on it :-(
HTHs,
Steve Ball
Zach Frey
> There is an opportunity now to add Tcl as a page scripting language to Mozilla.
> I posted an article to this newsgroup a long time ago seeking volunteers, but
> I never got a reply :-(
Well, I'm sure my (non-)answer then is the same as now -- it sounds useful,
and a lot of fun to do, but I have hardly any free time to do it in, and
I can't think of a good excuse to make it a real work item.
Is there anybody who's gotten familiar enough with the Mozilla source to
have some pointers for where this would need to be put in? I wouldn't mind
helping a little with such a project, but I don't want to have to learn the
entire Mozilla source tree.
(I assume we're talking about the HTML construct <SCRIPT LANGUAGE=Tcl> ? )
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Mike Tiller
> Steve Ball wrote:
> > There is an opportunity now to add Tcl as a page scripting
> > language to Mozilla. I posted an article to this newsgroup a long
> > time ago seeking volunteers, but I never got a reply :-(
> Well, I'm sure my (non-)answer then is the same as now -- it sounds useful,
> and a lot of fun to do, but I have hardly any free time to do it in, and
> I can't think of a good excuse to make it a real work item.
I'm in the same boat. I'd love it if this were there, but it isn't
something I have to time to work on right now :-(
> Is there anybody who's gotten familiar enough with the Mozilla source to
> have some pointers for where this would need to be put in? I wouldn't mind
> helping a little with such a project, but I don't want to have to learn the
> entire Mozilla source tree.
>
> (I assume we're talking about the HTML construct <SCRIPT LANGUAGE=Tcl> ? )
I too am curious about the details of what peopel have in mind.
> Zach
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Frederic BONNET
Steve Ball wrote:
> There is an opportunity now to add Tcl as a page scripting language to Mozilla.
> I posted an article to this newsgroup a long time ago seeking volunteers, but
> I never got a reply :-(
Prior to that we should define Tcl bindings to the DOM (Document Object
Model) so that people can write HTML-embedded scripts whatever the
platform. If we can avoid the same "compatibility" hell that exists with
JavaScript/JScript, that would be great.
The big question is what OO formalism/syntax to use? Rather than chosing
a specific OO extension (like [incr Tcl]), we can try to define a simple
generic syntax that could be recreated in any environment. Also remember
that JavaScript (the de facto standard, and the DOM originator) uses a
prototype-based OO paradigm, whereas most OO environments (including
[incr Tcl]) use class-based paradigms with several variants (C++, Java,
SmallTalk...). I suggest a syntax close to Tk widget commands because
it's well known and easy to recreate. That way, linking this generic
syntax to specific OO extensions would only need a bunch of Tcl scripts
(the same way many Tcl extensions provide their own Tk-like megawidgets
packages).
See you, Fred
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Cameron Laird
Steve Ball <Steve...@zveno.com> wrote:
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>No, not quite. The Tcl Plugin allows "Tclets" to be embedded in a page,
>ala Java applets. It does not allow Tcl to replace JavaScript for scripting
>pages themselves. However, the Tcl Plugin does provide a mechanism for
>sending JavaScript to the browser.
>
>I posted an article to this newsgroup a long time ago seeking volunteers, but
>I never got a reply :-(
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I don't remember the article, and didn't find it the
first few times I looked. What's the argument for
such a project, Steve? We all prefer Tcl to JavaScript,
of course, but what's the critical advantage that would
make this worth the (considerable) investment it would
take? Would deployment of a Mozilla derivative be
easier than the plugin's? Do you think there's any hope
for making Tcl a mass-market browser scripting language?