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lvi...@yahoo.com

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May 26, 2001, 6:28:12 AM5/26/01
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I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
(even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.

You know, I always wondered why, when we amass such great collections of
energies, why we don't have some sort of community project to improve
some specific aspect of Tcl... you know, like 'code for the codeless
humanity, a library of useful Tcl functions...'
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Kristoffer Lawson

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May 26, 2001, 7:39:22 AM5/26/01
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lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:


: I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate


: to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
: (even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
: effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
: forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.

Oh definitely. So you're going to be there? I plan to chat with everyone
I've posted and emailed with ;-) Oh, and three other Finns will be
joining in the fun too -- one of them is a perler...

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Bryan Oakley

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May 26, 2001, 8:35:19 AM5/26/01
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<lvi...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:9eo0fs$1t7$9...@srv38.cas.org...

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> I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
> to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
> (even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
> effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
> forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.

At present, I have no plans to be there. Kinda hard to justify a conference
when one doesn't have a job. But I'm working on it...

I think a late night coding session would be cool. Maybe completely solve
one of the TIPs, or solve some nagging problem that no one has found the
desire to tackle alone.

Erik Leunissen

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May 26, 2001, 11:51:43 AM5/26/01
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My employer's schedule doesn't not give me opportunity. I find this a
pity. I'm living "next door" (250 km) and really would like to come.

Still trying to influence my employers schedule though!

Erik Leunissen

Jeffrey Hobbs

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May 26, 2001, 12:32:14 PM5/26/01
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lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
> to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent

I'll of course be there, at the O'Reilly conference. Andreas will
be going to the one in Europe (in case anyone was confused, there
is the OSCON in July in San Diego:
http://conferences.oreilly.com/oscon/

and Tcl'Europe in early June in Hamburg (Harburg):
http://www.tu-harburg.de/skf/tcltk/

> You know, I always wondered why, when we amass such great collections of
> energies, why we don't have some sort of community project to improve
> some specific aspect of Tcl... you know, like 'code for the codeless
> humanity, a library of useful Tcl functions...'

Oh, I've got ideas that code fuel those sessions for weeks....

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Mac Cody

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May 26, 2001, 6:29:17 PM5/26/01
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lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
> to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
> (even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
> effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
> forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.

I'll be there - airline tickets bought and room/car reserved. Now if
I can just get my paper past my companies legal department so I can
get it submitted by the June 1 deadline. Sigh! This long Memorial Day
weekend came at the wrong time. :-\



> You know, I always wondered why, when we amass such great collections of
> energies, why we don't have some sort of community project to improve
> some specific aspect of Tcl... you know, like 'code for the codeless
> humanity, a library of useful Tcl functions...'

Well, I thought that last year's "Texas Tcl Shootout" was lots of fun.
Wouldn't mind doing something like that again. I don't think that
is quite what you have in mind, though. Perhaps it could be set up as
an ongoing BoF session for several evenings of the conference. Then
it could be migrated to SourceForge for follow-on work.

One project that I think would benefit the entire Tcl community is
setting up the mechanisms to support a Tcl extension archive network,
much like that of Perl's CPAN. I'd call it CANTCL (pronounced
canticle) - Contributed Archive Network for Tool Command Language.

Just a thought....

See you in July,

Mac Cody

lvi...@yahoo.com

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May 26, 2001, 10:44:59 PM5/26/01
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According to Jeffrey Hobbs <Je...@ActiveState.com>:
:Oh, I've got ideas that code fuel those sessions for weeks....

Did the code from last years coding contest ever go up online?

Kristoffer Lawson

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May 27, 2001, 9:25:41 AM5/27/01
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Kristoffer Lawson <se...@fishpool.com> wrote:
: lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:


: : I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
: : to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
: : (even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
: : effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
: : forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.

: Oh definitely. So you're going to be there? I plan to chat with everyone
: I've posted and emailed with ;-) Oh, and three other Finns will be
: joining in the fun too -- one of them is a perler...

Oh, and of course I was talking about the European conference :I So
anyone going there?

Andreas Kupries

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May 27, 2001, 5:28:52 PM5/27/01
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Kristoffer Lawson <se...@fishpool.com> writes:

> Kristoffer Lawson <se...@fishpool.com> wrote:
> : lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:

> : Oh definitely. So you're going to be there? I plan to chat with everyone
> : I've posted and emailed with ;-) Oh, and three other Finns will be
> : joining in the fun too -- one of them is a perler...

> Oh, and of course I was talking about the European conference :I So
> anyone going there?

Yes, me.

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lvi...@yahoo.com

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May 28, 2001, 6:01:46 AM5/28/01
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According to <lvi...@yahoo.com>:
:I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate

:to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference?

Whoops -looks like I messed up by not clarifying that when I said Tcl 2001,
I was referring to the US conference occuring in July.

I apologize.

http://tcl.activestate.com/community/tclcon2001.html

Kristoffer Lawson

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May 28, 2001, 1:22:27 PM5/28/01
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Andreas Kupries <a.ku...@westend.com> wrote:

: Kristoffer Lawson <se...@fishpool.com> writes:

:> Oh, and of course I was talking about the European conference :I So
:> anyone going there?

: Yes, me.

Yup, I noticed that. Eagerly waiting to hear your keynote speech and hopefully
to have a niec interesting chat.

Juan C. Gil

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May 28, 2001, 2:36:53 PM5/28/01
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Mac Cody <mac...@home.com> wrote in message news:<3B102F2F...@home.com>...
> lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> [snip]

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> One project that I think would benefit the entire Tcl community is
> setting up the mechanisms to support a Tcl extension archive network,
> much like that of Perl's CPAN. I'd call it CANTCL (pronounced
> canticle) - Contributed Archive Network for Tool Command Language.
>
I wholeheartdely back that name.

Juan Carlos---

Mac Cody

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May 28, 2001, 3:57:21 PM5/28/01
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Thanks!

Of course, in keeping with the CPAN acronym, CANTCL -
Comprehensive Archive Network for Tool Command Language
would also work as well. :-)


Mac Cody

Gerald W. Lester

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May 28, 2001, 5:37:32 PM5/28/01
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Bryan Oakley wrote:

As of right now, I'm planning on bringing some beer (7 gallons) from my brewery
(www.acadian-beer.com). Sounds like a good time to give it away.

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Andreas Kupries

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May 28, 2001, 5:32:57 PM5/28/01
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Mac Cody <mac...@home.com> wrote in message news:<3B102F2F...@home.com>...

> One project that I think would benefit the entire Tcl community is


> setting up the mechanisms to support a Tcl extension archive
> network, much like that of Perl's CPAN. I'd call it CANTCL
> (pronounced canticle)

I like that play with words.

Note that there are a number of names for such a thing at the NICS
(http://pitch.nist.gov/nics/). The domain is 'Tcl repository name
proposals'. I don't remember them all but I don't think the others
there as clever.

> - Contributed Archive Network for Tool Command Language.

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Mac Cody

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May 28, 2001, 8:29:23 PM5/28/01
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Andreas Kupries wrote:
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> Mac Cody <mac...@home.com> wrote in message news:<3B102F2F...@home.com>...
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> > One project that I think would benefit the entire Tcl community is
> > setting up the mechanisms to support a Tcl extension archive
> > network, much like that of Perl's CPAN. I'd call it CANTCL
> > (pronounced canticle)
>
> I like that play with words.
>
> Note that there are a number of names for such a thing at the NICS
> (http://pitch.nist.gov/nics/). The domain is 'Tcl repository name
> proposals'. I don't remember them all but I don't think the others
> there as clever.

Thanks! I've submitted it to the NICS.

Mac Cody

Neil Madden

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May 29, 2001, 2:26:40 AM5/29/01
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Oh man - free beer! Well, there's no chance of me affording a ticket, so
best concentrate on the exams...

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David Gravereaux

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May 29, 2001, 3:47:46 AM5/29/01
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Bryan Oakley wrote:

>"Gerald W. Lester" <Gerald...@cpu.com> wrote:

>> At present, I have no plans to be there. Kinda hard to justify a conference
>> when one doesn't have a job. But I'm working on it...

...


>As of right now, I'm planning on bringing some beer (7 gallons) from my brewery
>(www.acadian-beer.com). Sounds like a good time to give it away.

Not having a job doing Tcl (assuming you want to keep using it) sounds like a
good reason itself to go to the conference. That's my excuse. I want to meet
all the people doing it. And now this free beer offer! Bryan, at least the
conference is in the same state... Go anyways.
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Donal K. Fellows

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May 29, 2001, 10:37:55 AM5/29/01
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Mac Cody wrote:
> One project that I think would benefit the entire Tcl community is
> setting up the mechanisms to support a Tcl extension archive network,
> much like that of Perl's CPAN. I'd call it CANTCL (pronounced
> canticle) - Contributed Archive Network for Tool Command Language.

Very good idea indeed. Name's not too bad either (whatever you start
calling it, that name'll stick even if it is wildly inappropriate, so
you might as well start with a good one.)

Unfortunately, I won't be able to make either conference this year, so
please can everyone put up summaries/code on the web? Like that,
those parts of the community that can't turn up will still be able to
benefit...

Donal.
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rlan50

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May 29, 2001, 2:05:42 PM5/29/01
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Please post the lowdown on the European conference.

Andreas Kupries

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May 29, 2001, 3:05:23 PM5/29/01
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Neil Madden <nem...@cs.nott.ac.uk> writes:

> Oh man - free beer! Well, there's no chance of me affording a
> ticket, so best concentrate on the exams...

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UK. You could come to Hamburg.

Kristoffer Lawson

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May 29, 2001, 5:08:08 PM5/29/01
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rlan50 <rla...@email.sps.mot.com> wrote:
: Please post the lowdown on the European conference.

More information from here:

http://www.tu-harburg.de/skf/tcltk/main.html

It's really more of a user meeting than a conference, but several whitepapers
will be presented and it's a great chance to speculate on ideas with
people from Europe. I hope enough people make it there ;-)

Neil Madden

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May 29, 2001, 7:56:12 PM5/29/01
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If I could afford it, I would. But I am just a student, with very
limited funds. Perhaps next year...

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Gordon Johnstone

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May 30, 2001, 2:53:33 AM5/30/01
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lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be fortunate
> to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference? Perhaps those of us who frequent
> (even if only as lurkers) the newsgroup should make some sort of concerted
> effort to get together. Also be certain to mention the conference on web
> forums, mailing lists, etc. on which you discuss tcl related issues.
>
I'll be there Larry. Look forward to seeing you.

> You know, I always wondered why, when we amass such great collections of
> energies, why we don't have some sort of community project to improve
> some specific aspect of Tcl... you know, like 'code for the codeless
> humanity, a library of useful Tcl functions...'
> --

A sort of Tcl Blast type project? I was thinking along the lines of
setting up something on the web that would check up on the latest
versions of a range of extensions and ball them up into CD burnable
downloads. But it seems I need to sort out the "not enough hours in the
day" bug in my life first ;0) .

> --
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> <URL: mailto:lvi...@cas.org> <URL: http://www.purl.org/NET/lvirden/>
> Even if explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting

Gordon

Reinhard Max

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May 28, 2001, 9:30:45 AM5/28/01
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lvi...@yahoo.com wrote:


> I'm really curious as to how many of you find people I will be
> fortunate to greet at the upcoming Tcl conference?

I'll attend both the European and the O'Reilly Conference.

> Perhaps those of us who frequent (even if only as lurkers) the
> newsgroup should make some sort of concerted effort to get together.

Good idea!

> You know, I always wondered why, when we amass such great
> collections of energies, why we don't have some sort of community
> project to improve some specific aspect of Tcl... you know, like
> 'code for the codeless humanity, a library of useful Tcl
> functions...'

Yes, let's do something like that!

cu
Reinhard

lvi...@yahoo.com

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May 31, 2001, 8:50:15 AM5/31/01
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According to Gordon Johnstone <gor...@thornsds.co.uk>:
:A sort of Tcl Blast type project? I was thinking along the lines of

:setting up something on the web that would check up on the latest
:versions of a range of extensions and ball them up into CD burnable
:downloads. But it seems I need to sort out the "not enough hours in the
:day" bug in my life first ;0) .


If we could get extension authors together and get their code into a
Batteries Included/TEA/whatever agreed upon format, so that if present in
the appropriate tree structure, that one top level configure and make would
build all pieces, that would be step one towards a Tcl Blast type project.

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