Will tcl/tk version 8.42a ever be shipped?
Sacha Schär
Since about two months i am waiting for version 8.42a of tcl/tk. This is
only because i need the
Tk_GetHWND(window) function, which was already present in 8.3 but never
worked due to an installation bug. Another 'feature' i need is the
possibility to have buttons with smaller vertical extend in MS Win (a
commonly desired feature).
The former is, acording to Eric Melski, allready fixed (for version
8.42a) and people are also
working on the ladder. According to Andre' Poenitz, removing some lines
of source code would allow negativ values of pady which would be okay
for me.
However, in the current situation i am unsure if 8.42a will ever be
shipped. Is it planned to publish the next release in the next future or
is everything put on ice for the moment?
I consider 'fixing' these 'bugs' myself but i might not be able to do
the compilation sucessfully (i'm quite new to tcl/tk and i know almost
nothing aboute internal structure, the source code tree etc.). Anyway i
am using MSVC 6.0 if someone is willing to guide me).
-sacha
Dan Kuchler
If you need a working version of the sources, I think the sources are
almost ready for release. You can get a nightly snapshot of the
sources
from http://dev.scriptics.com/
Click on the "Net CVS" link in the 'Latest Releases' area on the main
page to get instructions.
Jeff and Eric are currently finishing up work to get the 8.4a2 ready
for release. I think the release will be sort of a baseline for
the sourceforge work. I believe it will be the last release to
come out of Ajuba, as future releases will come from the TCT and
sourceforge.
Thanks for being patient.
--Dan
lvi...@cas.org
According to Sacha Schär <sacha....@unibas.ch>:
:Since about two months i am waiting for version 8.42a of tcl/tk. This is
:However, in the current situation i am unsure if 8.42a will ever be
:shipped.
Is your concern related to the Ajuba Solutions merger, or because you
think two months is a long time for an alpha release?
If it is a concern about Ajuba Solutions merger, note that the Ajuba
staff are not the sole contributors towards 8.4. So far I've seen
every indication that the existing support machines will be available
for a short period of time - short being, I would hope - a month or more.
If however, your concern is the _length_ of time, I would vote for 8.4
to wait until the bugs are fixed and sufficient features are ready for
release.
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Sacha Schär
> According to Sacha Schär <sacha....@unibas.ch>:
> :Since about two months i am waiting for version 8.42a of tcl/tk. This is
>
> :However, in the current situation i am unsure if 8.42a will ever be
> :shipped.
>
> Is your concern related to the Ajuba Solutions merger, or because you
> think two months is a long time for an alpha release?
Well, i had the feeling that _because_ of Ajuba Solutions merger
everything was put on ice (hence the two months waiting).
> If it is a concern about Ajuba Solutions merger, note that the Ajuba
> staff are not the sole contributors towards 8.4. So far I've seen
> every indication that the existing support machines will be available
> for a short period of time - short being, I would hope - a month or more.
I am happy to hear that!
> If however, your concern is the _length_ of time, I would vote for 8.4
> to wait until the bugs are fixed and sufficient features are ready for
> release.
As stated in the OP i need the Tk_GetHWND() function. It was already
there in
8.32 but it is still not accessible due to an installation bug. For me
personally the avaibility of this function is vital - i can't even start
doing
something without it. If i would have to wait for it say 6 monthsr it i
would try to fix it myself (even though i'm a newby) or switch to
another scripting language (i'm affraid there is nothing around that
fits my needs so well as tcl/tk
-sacha
lvi...@cas.org
:there in
:8.32 but it is still not accessible due to an installation bug. For me
:personally the avaibility of this function is vital - i can't even start
:doing
:something without it.
So why not start using 8.4 alpha now, rather than wait?
Dan Kuchler
>
> According to Sacha Schär <sacha....@unibas.ch>:
> :As stated in the OP i need the Tk_GetHWND() function. It was already
> :there in
> :8.32 but it is still not accessible due to an installation bug. For me
> :personally the avaibility of this function is vital - i can't even start
> :doing
> :something without it.
>
> So why not start using 8.4 alpha now, rather than wait?
Because the relase order was:
8.3.1
8.4a1
8.3.2
8.4a2 (first release with the fix in it)
(I think that is where the fix was first
introduced anyway)
Of course as I mentioned earlier, you can
always get the fix if you download the sources
from CVS or the nightly snapshot tarball.
--Dan
George Howlett
> As stated in the OP i need the Tk_GetHWND() function. It was already
> there in
> 8.32 but it is still not accessible due to an installation bug. For me
> personally the avaibility of this function is vital - i can't even start
> doing
> something without it. If i would have to wait for it say 6 monthsr it i
> would try to fix it myself (even though i'm a newby) or switch to
> another scripting language (i'm affraid there is nothing around that
> fits my needs so well as tcl/tk
Forgive me, but I don't understand the problem. What kind of
installation problem do you have?
I use Tk_GetHWND in BLT. It works with any Tk 8.x release.
It's a publically available function. There's just no documentation
or function prototype. Fortunately, the second is easy to remedy.
extern HWND Tk_GetHWND _ANSI_ARGS_((Window window));
Is there something that I'm missing?
--gah
Dan Kuchler
>
> Forgive me, but I don't understand the problem. What kind of
> installation problem do you have?
>
> I use Tk_GetHWND in BLT. It works with any Tk 8.x release.
> It's a publically available function. There's just no documentation
> or function prototype. Fortunately, the second is easy to remedy.
>
> extern HWND Tk_GetHWND _ANSI_ARGS_((Window window));
>
> Is there something that I'm missing?
>
This was discussed in a previous thread in c.l.t
Read the thread:
http://x61.deja.com/viewthread.xp?AN=673912162
for the details.
I hope that helps,
--Dan
lvi...@cas.org
According to Dan Kuchler <kuc...@ajubasolutions.com>:
:lvi...@cas.org wrote:
:> So why not start using 8.4 alpha now, rather than wait?
:8.4a2 (first release with the fix in it)
Is Alpha 2 not available on the CVS or via tar file? If not, is it going
to be? If so, then I return to my question, as asked - instead of waiting
around until 8.4 is released, why not begin development now, with the
expectation that 8.4 final release is coming and will get here in the next
6 months or so...