Moderator Vacancy Investigation: comp.lang.tcl.announce
Alexander Bartolich
moderated group comp.lang.tcl.announce
This is a formal Moderator Vacancy Investigation (MVI), begun because
moderated newsgroup comp.lang.tcl.announce is not functioning,
and may have been abandoned by its moderator(s).
This investigation will attempt to verify the reasons for non-function,
and may result in the removal of the group or the selection and instal-
lation of a new moderator. In practice, the Big-8 Management Board
considers the third alternative--changing the status of the group from
moderated to unmoderated--as likely to cause more harm than good.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-lang-t...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 451 host lookup did
not complete (in reply to RCPT TO command)
<comp-lang-t...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 451 Temporary local problem -
please try later (in reply to RCPT TO command)
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.lang.tcl.announce Announcements about Tcl. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.tcl.announce
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.TCL.ANNOUNCE
Comp.lang.tcl.announce is a moderated newsgroup for announcing new
developments about Tcl and related software and extensions such as the
Tk toolkit, including new software releases, periodic postings related
to Tcl, and other items of general interest to the Tcl community.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.lang.tcl.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 321:23 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 4 Jan 1996.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this moderator vacancy investigation should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant
threads in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this MVI has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
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Alexander Bartolich
moderated group comp.lang.tcl.announce
This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) to remove moderated
newsgroup comp.lang.tcl.announce.
RATIONALE:
Probe posts to this group resulted in bounces.
<comp-lang-t...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.individual.net[130.133.4.7] said: 451 host lookup did
not complete (in reply to RCPT TO command)
<comp-lang-t...@moderators.isc.org>: host
moderators.switch.ch[130.59.10.10] said: 451 Temporary local problem -
please try later (in reply to RCPT TO command)
Michael Schumacher, Larry W. Virden, Alexandre Ferrieux, and Pat Thoyts
favor removal.
Message-ID: <1571194.p...@misc.albasani.net>
Message-ID: <56c2548b-6f25-477b...@b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <8688fc43-18ad-4073...@k17g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <87r5prd...@users.sourceforge.net>
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
comp.lang.tcl.announce Announcements about Tcl. (Moderated)
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.tcl.announce
comp.lang.tcl
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.TCL.ANNOUNCE
Comp.lang.tcl.announce is a moderated newsgroup for announcing new
developments about Tcl and related software and extensions such as the
Tk toolkit, including new software releases, periodic postings related
to Tcl, and other items of general interest to the Tcl community.
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
comp.lang.tcl.announce is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for
creation by 321:23 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 4 Jan 1996.
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
Those who wish to comment on this request to remove this newsgroup should
subscribe to news.groups.proposals and participate in the relevant threads
in that newsgroup.
To this end, the followup header of this RFD has been set to
news.groups.proposals.
In the course of the removal process four formal announcements are posted
(MVI, 1st RFD, 2nd RFD, and LCC), each taking two weeks. At the end of the
process the B8MB will vote on the issue.
Available options for comp.lang.tcl.announce are:
- leave the group as it is
- remove the group
For more information on the MVI process, please see
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24 1st RFD
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Alexander Bartolich
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.tcl.announce
comp.lang.tcl
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.TCL.ANNOUNCE
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-06 2nd RFD
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Big-8 Management Board
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.tcl.announce
comp.lang.tcl
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.TCL.ANNOUNCE
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
PROCEDURE:
http://www.big-8.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=policies:mvi
CHANGE HISTORY:
2010-02-21 LCC
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Big-8 Management Board
comp.lang.tcl.announce will be removed
The Last Call for Comments (LCC) on 2010-02-21 initiated a five-day
period for final comments. Following this comment period, the Big-8
Management Board has decided by vote to remove moderated group
comp.lang.tcl.announce.
Vote results (yes-no-abstain): 10-0-0
RATIONALE:
NEWSGROUPS LINE:
DISTRIBUTION:
news.announce.newgroups
news.groups.proposals
comp.lang.tcl.announce
comp.lang.tcl
CHARTER OF COMP.LANG.TCL.ANNOUNCE
HISTORY OF THE GROUP:
PROPONENT:
Alexander Bartolich <alexander...@gmx.at>
CHANGE HISTORY:
2009-10-29 First probe post
2010-01-10 Moderator Vacancy Investigation
2010-01-24 1st RFD
2010-02-06 2nd RFD
2010-02-21 LCC
2010-03-02 RESULT
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