can scheme simply replace java 100% in the enterprise?
gavino
ps
I hate the marketing word enterprise as much as anyone
Aaron W. Hsu
> if not why?
Is this a troll? Of course technically there is nothing that stops Scheme
from being able to replace Java 100% in the enterprise. Practically
speaking, of course not, because the enterprise is more than just
technical proficiency.
Aaron W. Hsu
--
A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
gavino
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:02 -0500, gavino <gavcom...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > if not why?
>
> Is this a troll? Of course technically there is nothing that stops Scheme
> from being able to replace Java 100% in the enterprise. Practically
> speaking, of course not, because the enterprise is more than just
> technical proficiency.
>
> Aaron W. Hsu
>
> --
> A professor is one who talks in someone else's sleep.
what are the barriers?
ho important is vendor tie in?
Andrew Reilly
"yes": replace 0 java with 0 scheme.
On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:26:02 -0800, gavino wrote:
> if not why?
Most enterprises are more interested in getting things done than in ...
well, anything else, really. That usually means using whatever "works"
for the problem at hand.
Of course, there are other enterprises for which nothing readily
available "works" for what they want to achieve, so they write their own
applications. Some of those even do that in Scheme.
--
Andrew
[I believe that there's a special dispensation for feeding trolls when
one is on Christmas holidays. Compliments of the season to all!]
Erik Max Francis
> On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 15:26:02 -0500, gavino <gavc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> if not why?
>
> Is this a troll?
Short answer, yes.
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Raffael Cavallaro
> Is this a troll?
yes. gavino is a well known troll on comp.lang.lisp who has apparently
now branched out to c.l.s.
--
Raffael Cavallaro
Benjamin L. Russell
Well, comp.lang.lisp is a poor place to look for references when
judging a poster's personality, however. I used to post there a long
time ago, too, but quickly stopped as soon as I realized that there
were at few extremely vocal proponents of Common Lisp there who were
extremely critical of almost anyone who didn't share their viewpoint.
I myself will post on almost any lisp-related forum *except* for
comp.lang.lisp.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
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Raffael Cavallaro
<DekuDe...@Yahoo.com> said:
> Well, comp.lang.lisp is a poor place to look for references when
> judging a poster's personality, however.
"Troll" is not a personality description. It is an term describing the
posting habits of certain individuals who start numerous threads with
vague and/or contentious subject lines intended merely to elicit
numerous responses.
Do a simple test: search google groups for the total number of threads
*started* by gavino. Now compare this number with his total posts. Now
do the same for any frequent poster to c.l.l (yours truly for example).
See a pattern?
gavino: 9 matches in past month, *6* of which are threads he started
me: 7 matches in past month, 0 of which are threads I started.
gavino is a troll.
--
Raffael Cavallaro
arc
<raffaelcavall...@pas.espam.s.il.vous.plait.mac.com> wrote:
> On 2009-12-27 15:52:44 -0500, "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcf...@sacrideo.us> said:
>
> > Is this a troll?
>
> yes. gavino is a well known troll on comp.lang.lisp who has apparently
> now branched out to c.l.s.
>
> --
> Raffael Cavallaro
He's been bugging schemers since at least 2006. There are c.l.s posts
from him dating from that time, and he also used to appear in #scheme
on freenode. Same pattern - always either asking for help with an
ambitious-sounding but vague projects which he never provides any
detail on (like 'building a kick-ass website'), or asking questions
like this one about scheme in the marketplace. He does occasionally
ask more directed questions, but he's never shown any inclination to
do the work required to learn scheme or even understand the answers
people give - at the very best he's a daydreamer who expects other
people to spoon-feed him information to fuel his daydreams.
-A.
Grant Rettke
<raffaelcavall...@pas.espam.s.il.vous.plait.mac.com> wrote:
> On 2009-12-27 15:52:44 -0500, "Aaron W. Hsu" <arcf...@sacrideo.us> said:
>
> > Is this a troll?
>
> yes. gavino is a well known troll on comp.lang.lisp who has apparently
> now branched out to c.l.s.
He is growing as a troll; growing is cool no? ;)
Benjamin L. Russell
wrote:
>On Dec 28, 2:29?pm, Raffael Cavallaro
I see.
In that case, just to be fair, let me provide an opportunity for
Gavino to demonstrate whether whether he can learn Scheme:
Gavino, now that we have responded to two of your questions, it's your
turn to answer two of mine:
Question 1:
What does the following well-known line of Scheme code return?
(lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (xx))
Question 2:
Hypothetically speaking, if a Schemer says that your progress in
learning Scheme is equivalent to the amount of progress achieved by
this line of Scheme code in processing its input, is that Schemer
praising you or criticizing you?
-- Benjamin L. Russell
Benjamin L. Russell
<DekuDe...@Yahoo.com> wrote:
>Gavino, now that we have responded to two of your questions, it's your
>turn to answer two of mine:
>
>Question 1:
>
>What does the following well-known line of Scheme code return?
>
> (lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (xx))
Correction; a space was missing. Please replace the above line with
the following:
(lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))
Apologies.
-- Benjamin L. Russell
jra/pdx
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:40:42 +0900, Benjamin L. Russell
>
> >Gavino, now that we have responded to two of your questions, it's your
> >turn to answer two of mine:
>
> >Question 1:
>
> >What does the following well-known line of Scheme code return?
>
> > (lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (xx))
>
> Correction; a space was missing. Please replace the above line with
> the following:
>
> (lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))
>
> Apologies.
>
> -- Benjamin L. Russell
>
Well, I think you meant:
((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x)))
Now that's a good question indeed.
Jules.
Benjamin L. Russell
<esp...@comcast.net> wrote:
>Well, I think you meant:
>
> ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x)))
Yes; that is what I had meant.
>
>Now that's a good question indeed.
Thank you. Actually, it isn't really a very good question, because
the answer can be looked up rather easily using Google. The answer to
the second one, however, is somewhat harder to find, and requires some
understanding of the semantics in order to answer.
-- Benjamin L. Russell