Re: HOST - Assembla Inc. Breakout - Copyright Violation by Mr. Andy Singleton
Ilias Lazaridis
the messages yet. Thus posting via groups-google now. first message was
from 2006-09-27, second message from 2006-09-28, both with a CC to Andy
Singleton]
Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
> Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
>> CC to : Andy Singleton <an...@assembla.com>
>> followup to: c.l.ruby
>>
>> Despite several notifications, Mr. Andy Singleton of Assembla Inc.
>> continues to keep my contributions within the breakout project,
>> without payment of the related invoices, violating this way my copyright.
>>
>> I ask Mr. Singleton of Assembla Inc. once more to remove all material
>> (code, documentation, documentation changes, tickets) posted by my
>> person to the Breakout project under the user-name "lazaridis_com"
>> between 2006-07-15 00:00 and 2006-07-04 23:59 (GMT)
>
> correction: "and 2006-08-04 23:59"
> -----^^---
>
>> <http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/timeline?from=08%2F05%2F06&daysback=21&milestone=on&ticket=on&ticket_details=on&changeset=on&wiki=on&update=Update>
>
> Mr. Singleton,
>
> In reply to your private message (which states that you removed all of
> my original code, tickets and wiki pages):
>
> I can confirm that you've removed:
>
> * all tickets and ticket-comments
> * all original wiki pages and wiki-page-modifications
>
> -
>
> As to the code and other repository commits:
>
> You have removed a few (not all) of my commits from the repository...
>
> http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1429
>
> ...but this code is still active on the production server.
>
> As you said within the private email "it's a small amount of code".
>
> Thus it should be no problem to _immediately_ revert _all_ my commits
> from the repository and to _remove_ the code from the production server
> (and of course from all other servers which run breakout):
>
> for your convenience, here is a list:
>
> <http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/timeline?from=08%2F05%2F06&daysback=22&changeset=on&update=Update>
Mr. Singleton,
within privat email (2006-09-28), you've replied that you've looked at
the list and removed the original code. Additionally, you stated that
it will be deployed after testing (to the production server).
It's a small amount of code (and configuration-file changes), so why do
you need time for this simple task?
After waiting one further week, I ask you once more to revert the
commits from the repository and from the production server(s) (where my
contributions are still active):
Possibly missed during last revert:
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1323
Not reverted:
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1316
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1326
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1327
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1328
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1329
you do _not_ need to revert those commits (as they've been overridden
by the update or contain irrelevant commits):
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1313
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1314
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1315
http://tools.assembla.com/breakout/changeset/1330
-
I wish you good luck in further adopting "Open Source Practices" whilst
bringing them to "commercial software development".
Hopefully your clients are aware of what can happen within public
projects: a public confrontation.
I am just one individual - imagine what happens if a whole community
detects an abuse...!
-
One final tip:
If you edit manually posts / your writings on a infrastructure under
your control (assembla.com), whilst adding messages which you've
previously posted::
"Also, I don’t want your code. I will replace any code that you
wrote."
http://assembla.com/flows/show_comment/a_Q598si0r26njaaeP0Qfc#showReply=false
do not forget one thing:
The internet-caches (like e.g. google cache):
"Also, I don’t want your code. I will replace any code that you
wrote, that is not covered by the GPL licensing that applies to our
Trac code, if I can find any."
<http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:15NB7Z3ufJIJ:tools.assembla.com/breakout/ticket/484+Simply:+what%27s+going+on+here%3F&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1>
-
Note to readers:
You can find the whole case here:
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Assembla
.
> I still don't understand why you've not kept you're offer of a partial
> payment:
>
> http://beta.assembla.com/flows/show/by2rhcrQKr25-kadbivGe2#showReply=false
> http://beta.assembla.com/flows/show/a_Q598si0r26njaaeP0Qfc#showReply=false
>
> (You can still do this, in order to avoid further effort.)
>
> -
>
> Finally, to cover your curiosity about the "objective of my request"
> (and your hope that I've achieved it):
>
> a) To protect my rights and to avoid commercial use of my _commercial_
> (but unpaid) contributions to a _commercial_ project.
>
> b) Το showcase negative side-effects of "Development Only Open Source
> Licenses" (like Assembla Breakout uses).
>
> c) To inform other developers about upcoming "Commercial Open Source"
> projects and the importancy of the copyright-payment-guarantee:
>
> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/CopyrightPaymentGuarantee
>
> -
>
> And of course, eveything negative has it positive sides, too:
>
> I'm collecting experiences in order to collaborate better with external
> developers within my first open source project:
>
> http://dev.lazaridis.com/base
>
>> Background Information:
>>
>> In order to reduce effort, Assembla was choosen as a possible host for
>> different personal projects, mainly due to the trac tool, see:
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host
>>
>> The Audit showed that the Assembla Breakout System does not met
>> several requirements and that trac was integrated in a immature way:
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Assembla
>>
>> The main interest was "Trac", and thus a rework was suggested
>> (commercial, reduced open source rates):
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/AssemblaReworkTrac
>>
>> the Assembla Breakout project has not much to do with Open Source, see
>> this report:
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/AssemblaTeamRating
>>
>> Finally, despite Assembla Breakout beeing a commercial project
>> (development only open source), the team-lead assumes people are
>> contributing for free. This has led to the need to verify the
>> "Copyright Payment Guarantee":
>>
>> http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/CopyrightPaymentGuarantee
>
> .
>
Paul McGuire
news:1160082179.2...@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
<snip - a bunch of back-and-forth correspondence of no interest to anyone
here whatsoever>
> .
>
WHAT IS THIS CRAP DOING ON THIS NEWSGROUP???!!! IT IS UNWANTED AND
UNWELCOME!!!
If you want to make some sort of public notice of your aggrievement with
Assembla, Breakout, Mr. Singleton, whatever, take out an ad in the
newspaper!
No one here is interested in your soap opera.
-- Paul McGuire
Ilias Lazaridis
> "Ilias Lazaridis" <il...@lazaridis.com> wrote in message
> news:1160082179.2...@c28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> >
> <snip - a bunch of back-and-forth correspondence of no interest to anyone
> here whatsoever>
>
> UNWELCOME!!!
>
> If you want to make some sort of public notice of your aggrievement with
> Assembla, Breakout, Mr. Singleton, whatever, take out an ad in the
> newspaper!
>
> No one here is interested in your soap opera.
>
> -- Paul McGuire
please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers
(archives).
I admit it is difficult to detect that this post is in-topic.
But it is.
And the crosspost is valid, too.
The key for it's validity is within those two topics (to which the
original post connects):
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Host
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/License
http://case.lazaridis.com/wiki/Copyright
I should have posted them immediately.
.
Erik Max Francis
> please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers
> (archives).
He may not be speaking for all of them, but he's speaking for the vast
majority. You are a consummate pest.
--
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No one knows what he can do until he tries.
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Gennady Bystritsky
> Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
>
>> please relax and do not speak for all current and future readers
>> (archives).
>
> He may not be speaking for all of them, but he's speaking for the vast
> majority. You are a consummate pest.
Relax, guys. Ilias Lazaridis is a resident troll on many mailing lists,
including ruby-talk (you may check archives to see for yourselves). He
was silent for quite a while, though. Just ignore him.
Gennady.