Major web host supports Rails
bertran...@yahoo.com
Rails! Snipped this from the newsletter:
"If I wasn't making myself clear, DreamHost now supports Ruby on Rails
right out of the box (so no further need to follow the crazy
instructions for doing it yourself like people were posting at
wiki.dreamhost.com), along with FastCGI (which you pretty much need -
unless you prefer Ruby on Snails).
That's about all there is to it, if you don't know what Ruby on Rails
is, don't worry.. it's like a programming environment thing to help you
make fancy web applications in the Ruby programming language lickety-split!"
Michael Campbell
> One of the biggest web hosts on the internet (Dreamhost) now supports
> Rails! Snipped this from the newsletter:
>
> "If I wasn't making myself clear, DreamHost now supports Ruby on Rails
> right out of the box (so no further need to follow the crazy
> instructions for doing it yourself like people were posting at
> wiki.dreamhost.com), along with FastCGI (which you pretty much need -
> unless you prefer Ruby on Snails).
"Ruby on Snails"... *chuckle*
Joel VanderWerf
..
> "Ruby on Snails"... *chuckle*
That could have been reality:
http://blade.nagaokaut.ac.jp/cgi-bin/scat.rb/ruby/ruby-talk/20717
luke
very good for dreamhost to be one of the first of the popular hosts to be
off the blocks in supporting rails. i'm working on a rails app at dreamhost
right now - went halves with a friend in their code monster plan .. 2.8
gigabytes of space, oh yeah!
they also have a good collection of other ruby gems.
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Jason Sweat
> On 7/6/05, bertran...@yahoo.com <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Ruby on Snails"... *chuckle*
>
On one forum I watch, there was discussion of doing a Rails port to
PHP. Given the typical PHP project naming conventions, I suggested
they call it
PHP on Phails
Regards,
Jason
http://blog.casey-sweat.us/
Greg Donald
> On one forum I watch, there was discussion of doing a Rails port to
> PHP. Given the typical PHP project naming conventions, I suggested
> they call it
>
> PHP on Phails
There are already quite a few MVC frameworks for PHP:
Mojavi
Ambivalence
Ampoliros
binarycloud
Horde
Krysalis
php.MVC
phpwebtk
Phrame
Studs
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Jason Sweat
> There are already quite a few MVC frameworks for PHP:
Thanks, I am aware of them and have contributed to several.
This link might provide you a better summary:
http://www.phpwact.org/php/mvc_frameworks
But this is starting to go significantly off topic for a Ruby mailing list.
Regards,
Jason
http://blog.casey-sweat.us/
Mark Thomas
> very good for dreamhost to be one of the first of the popular hosts to be
> off the blocks in supporting rails. i'm working on a rails app at dreamhost
> right now - went halves with a friend in their code monster plan .. 2.8
> gigabytes of space, oh yeah!
Wow... the Code Monster plan is now 7.5 gigs, with 375 (!) shell
accounts, 3000 email-only accounts and 15 domains for $19.95 a month.
Maybe we can organize groups and go "thirds" on it!
mathew
> On one forum I watch, there was discussion of doing a Rails port to
> PHP.
I could really use a Java version of Rails; I've been referring to this
hypothetical project as "Java on Crutches".
mathew
Yan-Fa Li
luke
hehe, yes i meant to say 3.8 gigs of space! (half a code monster plan). i
think .. it's early in the morning.
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gabriele renzi
Michael Campbell
Lothar Scholz
MC> Does anyone know if DreamHost "oversells" their space?
Isn't this the most common configuration for web hosters ?
I really doubt that they provide all the GB for all users by default
with this low prices.
And where is your problem ?
With hot swap disks you shouldn't see a
difference if the administrator is doing his job well.
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Brad Wilson
Michael Campbell
>
> MC> Does anyone know if DreamHost "oversells" their space?
>
> Isn't this the most common configuration for web hosters ?
Textdrive doesn't.
> And where is your problem ?
I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, but in the
English vernacular, "[What] is your problem?" is a fairly
argumentative phrase.
> With hot swap disks you shouldn't see a
> difference if the administrator is doing his job well.
That's a lot of "if's".
karli...@gmail.com
support and glut of features for dwindling prices. Been a loyal
customer there for a few years now, and I'm very excited to see the
addition of rails (I emailed them about Ruby support once...) Just
waiting for my domain to trickle through before I start playing with
it...
Wayne Pierce
>
> I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, but in the
> English vernacular, "[What] is your problem?" is a fairly
> argumentative phrase.
Actually, it's just a question. How you choose to interpret that
question is another matter.
Wayne
Michael Campbell
yeah, I've heard nothing but good about them.
I think I may have phrased my initial question poorly, or its intent
was misunderstood; if that's the case, I apologize. I have had no
dealings with DreamHost, so I no reasons to say anything bad about
them, nor do I necessarily consider overselling bad. I had no hidden
subtext, agenda, aspersions to cast, etc.. When I asked "Does
Dreamhost oversell space?", what I wanted to know was whether or not
Dreamhost oversold space; nothing more.
I'm not sure where the "What is your problem?" came from, but that may
have been due to a misunderstanding of the question, and the English
vernacular.
Just setting the record straight.
Dennis Roberts
When you sign up a portion of your payment goes to the open source
project of your choice and Ruby is one of the choices. They are also
very cheap, stable, and DHH is associated with them.
Seriously Textdrive is a great deal.
On 7/6/05, bertran...@yahoo.com <bertran...@yahoo.com> wrote:
James Britt
> Want to support Ruby? Use Textdrive (http://www.textdrive.com/).
Want to support Ruby? Contribute Ruby code, or write Ruby docs, or send
money to Ruby Central, the Ruby non-profit. Or any combination of these.
Then pick the hosting service that best suits your hosting needs. (That
may very well be TextDrive; I used them with a client and found the
control panel awkward and the hosting options too limited.)
James
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Ara.T.Howard
> Want to support Ruby? Use Textdrive (http://www.textdrive.com/).
> When you sign up a portion of your payment goes to the open source
> project of your choice and Ruby is one of the choices. They are also
> very cheap, stable, and DHH is associated with them.
>
> Seriously Textdrive is a great deal.
i've got a script running that pings my textdrive accounts once every ten
seconds... it fails about 40 times per day. multiply by 10 and guesstimate
that my sites are unavailable for about 400 seconds, or about 6 minutes, each
day. they claim it's due to people restarting apache via the webmin panel,
but that's tough if you are doing anything commercial - especially since the
price is already quite high...
IMHO the best way to support ruby is to contribute code.
cheers.
-a
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Douglas Livingstone
> Want to support Ruby? Use Textdrive (http://www.textdrive.com/).
> When you sign up a portion of your payment goes to the open source
> project of your choice and Ruby is one of the choices. They are also
> very cheap, stable, and DHH is associated with them.
>
Don't you mean Rails, not Ruby?
Douglas
Carl Youngblood
things other railsers were saying about them, but the cost/benefit simply
wasn't worth it to me. After hearing your experience the decision becomes
that much easier.
I am only just getting started with rails on DreamHost, but so far I am very
pleased with their service, and the price is great.
Carl
Ara.T.Howard
> I agree. At one point I was considering TextDrive because of all the good
> things other railsers were saying about them, but the cost/benefit simply
> wasn't worth it to me. After hearing your experience the decision becomes
> that much easier.
i should add that i'm still using them and generally happy. i just don't like
anyone being able to drop the webserver at any time... dunno a good
alternative either.
fyi.
James Edward Gray II
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Carl Youngblood wrote:
>
>
>> I agree. At one point I was considering TextDrive because of all
>> the good
>> things other railsers were saying about them, but the cost/benefit
>> simply
>> wasn't worth it to me. After hearing your experience the decision
>> becomes
>> that much easier.
>>
>
> i should add that i'm still using them and generally happy.
I too use and like them. They open up pretty much everything I want
by default, so it's easy to set up whatever I need. My favorite
feature though is their support, which is the best I've ever seen.
James Edward Gray II
Carl Youngblood
>
> > I agree. At one point I was considering TextDrive because of all the
> good
> > things other railsers were saying about them, but the cost/benefit
> simply
> > wasn't worth it to me. After hearing your experience the decision
> becomes
> > that much easier.
>
> i should add that i'm still using them and generally happy. i just don't
> like
> anyone being able to drop the webserver at any time... dunno a good
> alternative either.
>
What about not giving people rights to HUP the webserver and just allowing
them to terminate their own FCGI processes? Either that, or allowing them to
run their own instance of lighttpd.
Carl
James Edward Gray II
> What about not giving people rights to HUP the webserver and just
> allowing
> them to terminate their own FCGI processes? Either that, or
> allowing them to
> run their own instance of lighttpd.
TextDrive certainly does the latter. I'm running two instances of
lighttpd and and instance of Instiki (WEBrick), in addition to the
standard Apache stuff.
They walked me through the lighttpd setup process to get it running
exactly like I wanted. Did I mention they have killer support? ;)
James Edward Gray II
Ara.T.Howard
> On 7/11/05, Ara.T.Howard <Ara.T....@noaa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2005, Carl Youngblood wrote:
>>
>>> I agree. At one point I was considering TextDrive because of all the
>> good
>>> things other railsers were saying about them, but the cost/benefit
>> simply
>>> wasn't worth it to me. After hearing your experience the decision
>> becomes
>>> that much easier.
>>
>> i should add that i'm still using them and generally happy. i just don't
>> like
>> anyone being able to drop the webserver at any time... dunno a good
>> alternative either.
>>
>
> What about not giving people rights to HUP the webserver and just allowing
> them to terminate their own FCGI processes?
tough to configure virtual hosts that way ;-) that'd be a good idea for
fastcgi though. then there mod_ruby, etc - which requires a restart... i
think some sort of virtual machine is required - dunno what you call it -
where each user gets root on his own os and you have your very own apache
instance might be the only way... in some respects shared hosting and
fastcgi/mod_xxx simply don't belong together - it's a tough thing to do well i
realize.
> Either that, or allowing them to run their own instance of lighttpd.
they do that - but i'm personally not that keen on lighttpd.
regards.
Dennis Roberts
Ferdinand
>>And where is your problem ?
>
>
> I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, but in the
> English vernacular, "[What] is your problem?" is a fairly
> argumentative phrase.
That was unnecessary. Please don't be so rude in an otherwise friendly
community.
Ferdinand
>
> I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, but in the
> English vernacular, "[What] is your problem?" is a fairly
> argumentative phrase.
That was unnecessary. Please don't be so rude in an otherwise friendly
community.
Michael Campbell
> Michael Campbell <michael....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>And where is your problem ?
> >
> >
> > I'm not sure if English is your first language or not, but in the
> > English vernacular, "[What] is your problem?" is a fairly
> > argumentative phrase.
>
> That was unnecessary.
So was that.
> Please don't be so rude in an otherwise friendly
> community.
I tried responding offlist (which you should have done), but since you
don't have a valid reply-to, I couldn't.
I wasn't being rude. I asked a simple question. He responded with
what, in HIS view I'm sure, was a perfectly non-instrusive response,
which would be widely construed (even by many overly pedantic types, 1
of which replied here) as an argumentative phrase. I was only
informing him of that fact so in the future he would know. Most
bi-lingual speakers I've I know like to know the idioms and vernacular
of their non-native tongue.
Reply to this if you like, I'm killfiling the thread (locally) so I
won't see it any longer; it's long since outlived its usefulness, and
I doubt my intentions can be adequately expressed over this medium.
Cheers