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Kris Kowal

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Jun 9, 2008, 9:07:30 PM6/9/08
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I had a thought that might be pepworthy. Might we be able to break
outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?

This is the desired, if not desirable, syntax::

import string
letters = iter(string.lowercase)
for letter in letters:
for number in range(10):
print letter, number
if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
raise StopIteration()
if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
raise letters.StopIteration()

The first StopIteration would halt the inner loop. The second
StopIteration would halt the outer loop. The inner for-loop would
note that the letters.StopIteration instance is specifically targeted
at another iteration and raise it back up.

For this output::

a 0
a 1
a 2
a 3
a 4
a 5
b 0
b 1
b 2
b 3
b 4
b 5

This could be incrementally refined with the addition of an "as"
clause to "for" that would be bound after an iterable is implicitly
iter()ed::

import string
for letter in string.lowercase as letters:

raise letters.StopIteration()

I took the liberty to create a demo using a "for_in" decorator instead
of a "for" loop::

former_iter = iter

class iter(object):
def __init__(self, values):
if hasattr(values, 'next'):
self.iter = values
else:
self.iter = former_iter(values)
class Stop(StopIteration):
pass
if hasattr(values, 'StopIteration'):
self.StopIteration = values.StopIteration
else:
self.StopIteration = Stop

def next(self):
try:
return self.iter.next()
except StopIteration, exception:
raise self.StopIteration()

def for_in(values):
def decorate(function):
iteration = iter(values)
while True:
try:
function(iteration.next())
except iteration.StopIteration:
break
except StopIteration, exception:
if type(exception) is StopIteration:
break
else:
raise
return decorate

import string
letters = iter(string.lowercase)

@for_in(letters)
def _as(letter):
@for_in(range(10))
def _as(number):
print letter, number
if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
raise StopIteration()
if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
raise letters.StopIteration()

I imagine that this would constitute a lot of overhead in
StopIteration type instances, but perhaps a C implementation would use
flyweight StopIteration types for immutable direct subtypes of the
builtin StopIteration.

Kris Kowal

Paul Hankin

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Jun 9, 2008, 10:39:07 PM6/9/08
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On Jun 10, 10:07 am, "Kris Kowal" <kris.ko...@cixar.com> wrote:
> I had a thought that might be pepworthy.  Might we be able to break
> outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?
>
> This is the desired, if not desirable, syntax::
>
>     import string
>     letters = iter(string.lowercase)
>     for letter in letters:
>         for number in range(10):
>             print letter, number
>             if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
>                 raise StopIteration()
>             if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
>                 raise letters.StopIteration()

Have you checked out http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3136/

It contains exactly this idea, but using 'break letters' rather than
'raise letters.StopIteration()'. I think I like the PEP's syntax
better than yours, but anyway, it was rejected.

--
Paul Hankin

Kris Kowal

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Jun 10, 2008, 1:21:37 AM6/10/08
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On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 7:39 PM, Paul Hankin <paul....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you checked out http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-3136/
>
> It contains exactly this idea, but using 'break letters' rather than
> 'raise letters.StopIteration()'. I think I like the PEP's syntax
> better than yours, but anyway, it was rejected.

I concur that "break letters" is better than "raise
letters.StopIteration()". Perhaps the novelty of the implementation
idea (adding another exception case to the "while: try" that
must already be there, and the specialized exception type) can wake this
dead issue. Maybe "break letters" could under the hood raise the
specialized StopIteration.

But, then again. Guido has said, "No", already on other, albeit
subjective, grounds.
I'll drop it or champion it if there's interest.

Kris Kowal

Luis Zarrabeitia

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Jun 10, 2008, 1:29:43 AM6/10/08
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Quoting Kris Kowal <kris....@cixar.com>:

> I had a thought that might be pepworthy. Might we be able to break
> outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?
>
> This is the desired, if not desirable, syntax::
>
> import string
> letters = iter(string.lowercase)
> for letter in letters:
> for number in range(10):
> print letter, number
> if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
> raise StopIteration()
> if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
> raise letters.StopIteration()
>

I must say, I don't even like the idea of having a 'break', but I kind of like
this proposal.

However, it may be ambiguous [is that a word?] if the outer and inner for loop
over the same object. Weird/unlikely situation, I know... but so is having a
deep break :D.

--
Luis Zarrabeitia
Facultad de Matemática y Computación, UH
http://profesores.matcom.uh.cu/~kyrie


Dan Bishop

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Jun 10, 2008, 1:50:01 AM6/10/08
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On Jun 9, 8:07 pm, "Kris Kowal" <kris.ko...@cixar.com> wrote:
> I had a thought that might be pepworthy.  Might we be able to break
> outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?
>
> This is the desired, if not desirable, syntax::
>
>     import string
>     letters = iter(string.lowercase)
>     for letter in letters:
>         for number in range(10):
>             print letter, number
>             if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
>                 raise StopIteration()
>             if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
>                 raise letters.StopIteration()
>

You can break out of outer loops now with the proper (ab)use of
exceptions:


class BreakOuter(Exception):
pass

try:
for letter in string.lowercase:
for number in xrange(10):


print letter, number
if letter == 'a' and number == 5:

break


if letter == 'b' and number == 5:

raise BreakOuter()
except BreakOuter:
pass


Or, for consistency:

class BreakInner(Exception):
pass

class BreakOuter(Exception):
pass

try:
for letter in string.lowercase:
try:
for number in xrange(10):


print letter, number
if letter == 'a' and number == 5:

raise BreakInner()


if letter == 'b' and number == 5:

raise BreakOuter()
except BreakInner:
pass
except BreakOuter:
pass

Diez B. Roggisch

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Jun 10, 2008, 2:51:00 AM6/10/08
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Kris Kowal schrieb:

> I had a thought that might be pepworthy. Might we be able to break
> outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?
>
> This is the desired, if not desirable, syntax::
>
> import string
> letters = iter(string.lowercase)
> for letter in letters:
> for number in range(10):
> print letter, number
> if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
> raise StopIteration()
> if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
> raise letters.StopIteration()
>
> The first StopIteration would halt the inner loop. The second
> StopIteration would halt the outer loop. The inner for-loop would
> note that the letters.StopIteration instance is specifically targeted
> at another iteration and raise it back up.

For the record: I share GvR's opinion on the general usefulness.

Additionally, your syntax is impossible. There isn't always a containing
variable for the iterable.

And if you meant "letter", it's ambigous. It is perfectly legal in
python to do this:

class Foo(object):
StopIteration = StopIteration

for letter in [Foo(), Foo()]:
for number in range(10):
raise letter.StopIteration


Diez

nwinte...@gmail.com

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Jun 10, 2008, 9:47:13 AM6/10/08
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On Jun 9, 10:50 pm, Dan Bishop <danb...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 9, 8:07 pm, "Kris Kowal" <kris.ko...@cixar.com> wrote:
>
> > I had a thought that might be pepworthy.  Might we be able to break
> > outer loops using an iter-instance specific StopIteration type?
>
>
> You can break out of outer loops now with the proper (ab)use of
> exceptions:
>
> class BreakInner(Exception):
> pass
> class BreakOuter(Exception):
> pass
> try:
> for letter in string.lowercase:
> try:
> for number in xrange(10):
> print letter, number
> if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
> raise BreakInner()
> if letter == 'b' and number == 5:
> raise BreakOuter()
> except BreakInner:
> pass
> except BreakOuter:
> pass

I prefer having a new function wrapping the inner loop and using both
break and return, but this doesn't allow you to "break 1 loop up and 2
loops up", and doesn't help to continue a particular loop further up

def innerLoop(letter):


for number in xrange(10):
print letter, number
if letter == 'a' and number == 5:
break
if letter == 'b' and number == 5:

return

for letter in string.lowercase:
innerLoop(letter)


In response to the suggested syntax, I have found occasions where I
iterate through the same variable [say searching for duplicates within
some tolerance to merge into one item] in an inner loop. I also don't
see how it would extend to something like:

for evenNumber in [x*2+1 for x in xrange(5)]: print evenNumber

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