OT: Meaning of "monkey"
Luis M. González
Spidermonkey, Mono (monkey in spanish), codemonkey, etc, etc, etc...
Monkeys everywhere.
Sorry for the off topic question, but what does "monkey" mean in a
nerdy-geek context??
Luis
Kushal Kumaran
These might help you get the gist:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/C/code-monkey.html
http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/T/tape-monkey.html
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regards,
kushal
Robert Kern
Partly because "monkey" is just a funny word.
As for monkey-patching, it came from the Zope community:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monkey_patching
--
Robert Kern
"I have come to believe that the whole world is an enigma, a harmless enigma
that is made terrible by our own mad attempt to interpret it as though it had
an underlying truth."
-- Umberto Eco
Grant Edwards
> Webmonkey, Greasemonkey, monkey-patching, Tracemonkey, J?germonkey,
> Spidermonkey, Mono (monkey in spanish), codemonkey, etc, etc, etc...
>
> Monkeys everywhere.
> Sorry for the off topic question, but what does "monkey" mean in a
> nerdy-geek context??
In colloquial English, "<something>-monkey" is a slang term for a
person who does a particular job for a living. For example "grease
monkey" is a slang term for an auto mechanic. A "code monkey" is
somebody who writes code for a living.
It can be slightly derogitory in some situations since it implies that
the task is mechanical and repetitive and doesn't require a lot of
creative thinking.
However, it can be used among peers in an affectionate way. One may
refer to one's peer as "code monkey" without offense, but a manager
could not refer to one of his employees as a "code monkey" without
risking it being seen as an insult.
Many people are accustomed to speaking anthopomorphically about
computers and programs, so when somebody writes a program that does
"foo", the name "foo monkey" seems natural for that program.
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Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I don't know WHY I
at said that ... I think it
gmail.com came from the FILLINGS in
my rear molars ...
Robert Kern
> On 2010-03-26, Luis M Gonz?lez<lui...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Webmonkey, Greasemonkey, monkey-patching, Tracemonkey, J?germonkey,
>> Spidermonkey, Mono (monkey in spanish), codemonkey, etc, etc, etc...
>>
>> Monkeys everywhere.
> Many people are accustomed to speaking anthopomorphically about
"simiomorphically"?
Mel
> However, it can be used among peers in an affectionate way. One may
> refer to one's peer as "code monkey" without offense, but a manager
> could not refer to one of his employees as a "code monkey" without
> risking it being seen as an insult.
Somewhere on the Internet there's a particularly brilliant pop song called
"Code Monkey".
Mel.
Jon Clements
Can I take the slight risk that actually it can also be (as you said
'affectionately') in a very positive sense. The same way "geek" or
"nerd" can be applied. I used to be called "Big Geek" from the last
company I worked for on PAYE, but that was a compliment. But, I've
heard my step-dad call someone a "Geek" which is derogatory.
No winning when you have language that can mean "bad" (in meaning
"wicked/very good/awesome" (and even 'wicked' means good sometimes -
as in enthusiasm for an idea)) or actually "bad/not good [add your own
synonyms]". All valid, but which is good/bad :)
Anyway, this' a group for Python, not English :)
Feel better for my rant :)
Jon.
Tim Wintle
> Somewhere on the Internet there's a particularly brilliant pop song
> called "Code Monkey".
http://www.jonathancoulton.com/2006/04/14/thing-a-week-29-code-monkey/
(he's linked to the mp3 from there)
Phlip
Better at typing than thinking.
Mensanator
Really? I thought it was more of a reference to Eddington, i.e., given
enough time even a monkey can type out a program.
Emile van Sebille
I like the quote that went along the lines of 'here we are, and no we
haven't'
djc
Precisely, given infinite typing and zero thinking...
Note also the expression 'talk to the organ grinder not the monkey'
and 'a trained monkey could do it'
and then there are monkey wrenches, and monkey bikes...
and never call the Librarian a monkey
--
David Clark, MSc, PhD. UCL Centre for Publishing
Gower Str London WCIE 6BT
What sort of web animal are you?
<https://www.bbc.co.uk/labuk/experiments/webbehaviour>
Bruno Desthuilliers
>
> and never call the Librarian a monkey
ook ?!?
Krister Svanlund
> Mensanator wrote:
>> On Mar 26, 2:44 pm, Phlip <phlip2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Mar 26, 6:14 am, Luis M. González <luis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Webmonkey, Greasemonkey, monkey-patching, Tracemonkey, Jägermonkey,
>>>> Spidermonkey, Mono (monkey in spanish), codemonkey, etc, etc, etc...
>>>> Monkeys everywhere.
>>>> Sorry for the off topic question, but what does "monkey" mean in a
>>>> nerdy-geek context??
>>>> Luis
>>> Better at typing than thinking.
>>
>> Really? I thought it was more of a reference to Eddington, i.e., given
>> enough time even a monkey can type out a program.
>
>
> Precisely, given infinite typing and zero thinking...
>
> Note also the expression 'talk to the organ grinder not the monkey'
>
> and 'a trained monkey could do it'
>
> and then there are monkey wrenches, and monkey bikes...
>
> and never call the Librarian a monkey
>
The monkeys comes from different places... for example:
"The term monkey patch was first used as guerrilla patch, [...], which
was referred to as the patches engaging in battle with each other.
Since the word guerrilla and gorilla are near-homophones, people
started using the incorrect term gorilla patch instead of guerrilla
patch. When a developer then created a guerrilla patch they tried very
hard to avoid any battles that may ensue due to the patch and the term
monkey patch was coined to make the patch sound less forceful."
And then there is, as said, monkey wrenches which is utility tools.
Codemonkeys, i believe, comes from the infinite monkeys theory.
Den
To go even more off topic, I remember Trunk Monkey commercials.
Also, I remember a web site whose intentions was to simulate monkeys
typing Shakespeare. They had set up a distributed system where you
could contribute your computer to providing random characters, which
they compared to a selected set of Shakespeare's plays. Just before
the site disappeared (or I lost track of it), they had received
strings representing the first maybe 15 or 20 characters of several
plays.
Den
Gib Bogle
Mensanator
> I prefer to think of myself as a code-ape - I look down on code-monkeys.
Why? They have prehensile tails.