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Michal Wallace (sabren)

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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I didn't see this posted already, but sorry if its old news.
O'Reilly started a new python site:

http://www.oreillynet.com/python/


Cheers,

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Ivan Van Laningham

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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Hi All--

"Michal Wallace (sabren)" wrote:
>
> I didn't see this posted already, but sorry if its old news.
> O'Reilly started a new python site:
>
> http://www.oreillynet.com/python/
>

Hmmm. I looked it over, admittedly not in great depth, but:

1) There seems to be no mention of www.python.org
2) There seems to be no mention of the python mailing lists
3) The only books mentioned are O'Reilly books
4) There seem to be no links to other websites

Maybe I'm very wrong here, but I think this sort of attempt to control
the vertical and horizontal is a bit foreign to Python. I like (make
that love) O'Reilly books, but I'll say the same thing I said back when
the Honda Civic made its debut:

"There's no reason to apply hard-sell arm-twisting techniques here.
The car sells itself, the engineering is that good."

Of course, that didn't prevent me from getting enough arm-twisting FUD
phone calls from the salesman I made the mistake of giving my name to
that I ended up not buying a Honda.

"Open Source" is a philosophy that applies to more than source.


<please-please-tell-me-i'm-wrong>-ly y'rs,
Ivan
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Ivan Frohne

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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"Ivan Van Laningham" <iva...@callware.com> wrote in message news:38FC984D...@callware.com...

> > http://www.oreillynet.com/python/

> Hmmm. I looked it over, admittedly not in great depth, but:
>
> 1) There seems to be no mention of www.python.org
> 2) There seems to be no mention of the python mailing lists
> 3) The only books mentioned are O'Reilly books
> 4) There seem to be no links to other websites

http://www.oreillynet.com/python/ is an outstanding web site.
The design is professional, the home page loads quickly, and the
material is well-organized. Almost every click either either leads to
http://www.Python.org or displays the "Python-powered" ikon,
which also clicks to Mecca.

Gee, I wonder if it's even legal for O'Reilly to flog other publishers'
books? And even if it is, ...?

So cut O'Reilly some slack. Python can use the web presence.

--Ivan Frohne


Stephen R. Figgins

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Apr 18, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/18/00
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It isn't old news, it just went public last night(Monday) Sort of a soft
launch, as I don't have much in the way of content up yet. But I am
working on that problem! I will have some original articles in a couple
of weeks.

The Network is actually a subsidiary of O'Reilly & Associates, and I am
plenty happy to plug other's books. (Actually I think the only book I
have linked right now is the venerable Programming Python, and that is
just because I mentioned it in me introduction.)

The links I am building under topics are not links to other sites, but
rather to documents on other sites. I am looking for tutorials,
articles, documentation, anything good and juicy with information. I am
open to suggestions.

And I like criticism, particularly the constructive kind. So send me
plenty.

And if any of you want to line up for writing some good articles for me,
I am paying!

Stephen R. Figgins
Editor, O'Reilly Network

Robert Hicks

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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Do I write an article and then just email it to you?

Bob

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Stephen R. Figgins

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Apr 19, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/19/00
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Robert Hicks wrote:
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> Do I write an article and then just email it to you?
>
> Bob

It would be best if you checked in with me first. I would hate to have
you spend all that effort for something I might reject. Send me an
outline of what you want to do. If I like it, we will talk about when
you can deliver it and I will get you contract.

I haven't got author's guidelines for the network up yet (for some
reason it keeps slipping down my to do list) but you should take a look
at the author's guidelines at WebReview:

http://www.webreview.com/pub/universal/authorguide.html

The audience isn't exactly the same but the information on writing for
the web is dead on.

Stephen Figgins
f...@oreilly.com

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