Unicode humor

[Roy Smith]

Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
recently:

http://xkcd.com/1209/

[Sven]

I saw this this morning and the first thing I thought of was this list... 

unlike you I was too lazy to post it :)

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[Christian Gollwitzer]

Am 08.05.13 15:19, schrieb Roy Smith:

> Apropos to any of the myriad unicode threads that have been going on
> recently:
>
> http://xkcd.com/1209/
>

http://xkcd.com/1137/

[jmfauth]

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This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.

jmf

[Chris Angelico]

By the skywriter, or by the two on the ground, or by Randall Munroe?

Or by jmf?

ChrisA

[Ned Batchelder]

And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)

--Ned.

[Chris Angelico]

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 1:24 AM, Ned Batchelder <n...@nedbatchelder.com> wrote:
> On 5/10/2013 11:06 AM, jmfauth wrote:
>>

> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)

Isn't that a crime in the UK?

ChrisA

[rusi]

The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
its not unicode compliant

[MRAB]

British humour includes "double entendre", which is not French-compliant.

[Ethan Furman]

Is so! It fits inside the first 127 code points!!

As a bonus it also takes less brain power^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H space. ;)

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[Steven D'Aprano]

Obviously by all three. It takes *hours* to execute

'è'*1000.replace('è', 'ã')

using a skywriting plane, so obviously it isn't Unicode compliant.



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[Chris Angelico]

Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour.
In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's
possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English
joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can
result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that
come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then
get to laugh at them.

ChrisA

[Chris Angelico]

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Mark Lawrence <bream...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python
> unicode, at least in 3.3+. I wouldn't mind betting that other languages
> can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly even
> the Germans die laughing?

It most certainly can. However, the space it takes up depends on how
you encode the combining characters; for maximal efficiency of
transmission, you would want to use the fully-composed version,
because like music, if it isn't composed, it's decomposed.

ChrisA

[Mark Lawrence]

On 10/05/2013 17:25, Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 2:07 AM, rusi <rusto...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Unicode humour was carefully laid out to incorporate English humour.
> In fact, if you use the standard variable-length-joke encoding, it's
> possible for a Unicode joke to be decoded as if it were an English
> joke, without any actual knowledge of Unicode. Unfortunately, this can
> result in non-compliant English humour publishers producing jokes that
> come out as gibberish in the rest of the world. Fortunately, we then
> get to laugh at them.
>
> ChrisA
>

This simply shows bias to the English speaking world, as does Python
unicode, at least in 3.3+. I wouldn't mind betting that other languages
can't cope, e.g. can 3.3+ manage the top secret joke that's so deadly
even the Germans die laughing?

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[Jean-Michel Pichavant]

> >> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
> >>
> >> >> jmf
> >>
> >> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)
> >>
> >> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
> >>
> >> ChrisA
> >
> > The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
> > its not unicode compliant
> >

> British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
> French-compliant.

I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.

JM

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[D'Arcy J.M. Cain]

On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST)
Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanm...@sequans.com> wrote:
> > British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
> > French-compliant.
>
> I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.

It's sort of like when Bush said "The French don't even have a word for
entrepreneur."

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[MRAB]

On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
>> >> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>> >>
>> >> >> jmf
>> >>
>> >> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)
>> >>
>> >> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>> >>
>> >> ChrisA
>> >
>> > The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is that
>> > its not unicode compliant
>> >

>> British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
>> French-compliant.
>
> I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.
>

It's called "double entendre" in English (using French words, from "�
double entente"), but that isn't correct French ("double sens").

[Jean-Michel Pichavant]

----- Original Message -----
> On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
> >> >> >> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
> >> >>
> >> >> >> jmf
> >> >>
> >> >> > And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
> >> >>
> >> >> ChrisA
> >> >
> >> > The problem with English humour (as against standard humor) is
> >> > that
> >> > its not unicode compliant
> >> >
> >> British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
> >> French-compliant.
> >
> > I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.
> >

> It's called "double entendre" in English (using French words, from "à

> double entente"), but that isn't correct French ("double sens").

Thanks for clarifying, I didn't know "double entendre" had actually a meaning in english, it's obviously 2 french words but this is the first time I see them used together.

[MRAB]

On 15/05/2013 18:04, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> On 15/05/2013 14:19, Jean-Michel Pichavant wrote:
>>>>>>>> This reflects a lack of understanding of Unicode.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jmf
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And this reflects a lack of a sense of humor. :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Isn't that a crime in the UK?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ChrisA
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem with English humour (as against standard humor)
>>>>> is that its not unicode compliant
>>>>>
>>>> British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
>>>> French-compliant.
>>>
>>> I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.
>>>
>> It's called "double entendre" in English (using French words, from
>> "à double entente"), but that isn't correct French ("double
>> sens").
>
> Thanks for clarifying, I didn't know "double entendre" had actually a
> meaning in english, it's obviously 2 french words but this is the
> first time I see them used together.
>

Occasionally speakers of one language will borrow a word or phrase from
another language and use it in a way a native speaker wouldn't (or even
understand).

[Jean-Michel Pichavant]

----- Original Message -----
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 15:19:00 +0200 (CEST)
> Jean-Michel Pichavant <jeanm...@sequans.com> wrote:

> > > British humour includes "double entendre", which is not
> > > French-compliant.
> >
> > I didn't get that one. Which possibly confirm MRAB's statement.
>

> It's sort of like when Bush said "The French don't even have a word
> for
> entrepreneur."
>
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Nice one (to MRAB's credit his humor was intentional :o) )

[Colin J. Williams]

double-entendre - Chambers Fails, but see Wiktionary:
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/double_entendre

Colin W.

[alex23]

On May 16, 12:09 am, "D'Arcy J.M. Cain" <da...@druid.net> wrote:
> It's sort of like when Bush said "The French don't even have a word for
> entrepreneur."

Or "The Russians have no word for it, therefore detente must be a one-
way street."