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[Xantipius]

subj

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 03:18:49 -0700, Xantipius wrote:

> subj

The same way as you compressed it, only in reverse.

When you ask a sensible question, I'm sure that somebody will give you a
sensible answer.


--
Steven

[Ben Finney]

Xantipius <r...@bk.ru> writes:

> subj

resp

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`\ out, which is the exact opposite.” —Bertrand Russell, _Free |
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Ben Finney

[Mark Lawrence]

On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote:
> subj
>

Either

a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet
that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback.

or

b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up
with a solution for you.

--
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

[PythonAB]

or... go out and buy the DVD it's ripped from... ;)

[Miki Tebeka]

Have a look at PyMedia.

[Xantipius]

On Aug 13, 5:03 pm, Miki Tebeka <miki.teb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have a look at PyMedia.

Miki, I've just downloaded this. Thanks.

A quote from their website:
============================================
Video file as pictures
Save your video clip into the set of BMP pictures and enjoy your
favourite snapshot.
Get your video back after you have it as pictures
=====================================================

This is exactly what I was looking for.

[Xantipius]

Mark, in regard your last remark:
it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.

Cheers.

[Chris Angelico]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM, Xantipius <r...@bk.ru> wrote:
> Mark, in regard your last remark:
> it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
> I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.

In that case, I strongly recommend that you write some code instead of
throwing zero-effort questions onto a mailing list.

Though this sort of request does tend to have amusement value. Thanks Ben!

ChrisA

[Mark Lawrence]

Is it your normal practice to communicate with yourself via a public
mailing list/news group? When did you seek my permission to call me by
my forename?

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Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?

Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name,
you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr
Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if
they haven't been formally introduced.

Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected,
but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name
in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness.
Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.



--
Steven

[Mark Lawrence]

For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
on Python mailing lists. But see also my earlier reply to you on the
"save dictionary to a file without brackets" thread.

--
Cheers.

Mark Lawrence.

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:38:24 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:

[...]

> For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
> on Python mailing lists. But see also my earlier reply to you on the
> "save dictionary to a file without brackets" thread.

And thank you for your reasonable reply.

I don't remember anything about this request to use your full name. I
won't speak for others, but I support the right of people to be known by
whatever (reasonable, non-offensive) name or names they choose on
informal mailing lists like this, so long as they give *some* moniker
that others can refer to them by.

If somebody here wants to be known as "Mr Smith", or "Professor Jones",
or "Tomato Girl the Boy Wonder" for that matter, then they need only sign
their posts that way and give that in their From address, and I will use
it. The pattern "Personal-Name Family-Name" is not the only naming system
in the world.

http://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-names/


(However, I don't promise not to roll my eyes if they choose a silly
moniker, and I am the final arbitrator as to what counts as silly.)



--
Steven

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 00:00, Xantipius wrote:
>> On Aug 13, 3:40 pm, Mark Lawrence <breamore...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 13/08/2012 11:18, Xantipius wrote:
>>>> subj
>>>
>>> Either
>>>
>>> a) write some code and when and if it fails give us a small code snippet
>>> that demonstates the problem with the complete traceback.
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> b) state how much you are willing to pay for someone here to come up
>>> with a solution for you.
>>

>> Mark, in regard your last remark:
>> it's just a recreation for me. Nothing more in it.
>> I like to put some weird and useless problems before myself.
>

> Is it […] normal practice to communicate with yourself via a public
> mailing list/news group?

No, it is not. However, I would not expect too much from a Google Groups
user who posts under pseudonym without a reasonable message body. Probably
they are not even aware that they are on Usenet, thinking that they are
posting to a Web forum instead.

> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?

AIUI, in English (which is not my native language), it is customary that
peers call themselves by their first names (in other languages, too). This
does not necessarily indicate familiarity. We are all peers on/in this
mailing list/newsgroup working on different aspects of the same problem:
learning how to write good Python programs.

So you should not be surprised to be called and referred to by your first
name or nick name. In fact, on Usenet it is usually considered an
appreciation of the person so addressed *not* to use their last name. If
you are called by someone by your last name only, you probably did that
someone very wrong (or encountered a hypersensitive entity, or you are being
trolled; depends).

However, communication that really only concerns two people should be
limited to private e-mail (which is what the mandatory address header fields
are for). (I think this one should be public, for other newbies.)

HTH. And trim your quotes to the relevant minimum, please.

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PointedEars

Please do not Cc: me. / Bitte keine Kopien per E-Mail.

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Mark Lawrence wrote:

> On 14/08/2012 04:00, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Aug 2012 01:34:46 +0100, Mark Lawrence wrote:
>>> When did you seek my permission to call me by my forename?
>> Sheesh. It's 2012, not 1812. If you sign your posts with your full name,
>> you have to expect that people will call you "Mark" rather than "Mr
>> Lawrence" or "Lord High Mucky-Muck Grand Poohbar Lawrence" -- even if
>> they haven't been formally introduced.
>>
>> Mark, we're all human and the occasional snark is only to be expected,
>> but demanding that people ask permission to call you by your first name
>> in an informal forum like this crosses the line to total dickishness.
>> Chill out before you get yourself kill-filed into irrelevance.
>
> For the record I was asked to use my full name rather than my user name
> on Python mailing lists.

Apples and oranges.

Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
from that of the other potential Marks around here. Some people, including
me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness and form
towards the reader, equivalent of an introduction of oneself. Important
enouth that, if not showed, will reduce the probability for an answer
(sometimes down to zero). For the record shows that if one aspect of
politeness is ignored, other aspects are usually ignored as well. People
tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things
*intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so
their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Here endeth the lesson ;-)

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<Point...@web.de> wrote:
> Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
> from that of the other potential Marks around here.

I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
"ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
"Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.

> Some people, including
> me, also consider posting under real name a basic act of politeness... People

> tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite things
> *intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was known and so
> their reputation IRL would be at stake.

Agreed. Sometimes that's a good thing; there are places where
anonymity protection is important. But with these sorts of lists,
there's the potential to acquire a strong positive or strong negative
reputation; people who want a positive reputation usually want it
associated with *them*, not with some pseudonym.

Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
Vulcan or an elf?

ChrisA

[Steven D'Aprano]

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 07:46:31 +1000, Chris Angelico wrote:

> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are similar).
> That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing purposes, though if
> anyone wants a truly unique handle for me, "Rosuav" is more effective
> than my real name.

Mom? Is that you?



--
Steven

[Chris Angelico]

Eh?

I'm guessing that's a reference to something that I'm not familiar with?

ChrisA

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Chris Angelico wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Probably you were asked that so that your postings could be distinguished
>> from that of the other potential Marks around here.
>
> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.

For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire
posting first.

>> Some people, including me, also consider posting under real name a basic
>> act of politeness...

Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have
written `politeness...' myself.

>> People tend to hide behind pseudo-anonymity; they tend to write impolite
>> things *intentionally* which they would not do if their real name was
>> known and so their reputation IRL would be at stake.
>
> Agreed. Sometimes that's a good thing; there are places where
> anonymity protection is important. But with these sorts of lists,
> there's the potential to acquire a strong positive or strong negative
> reputation; people who want a positive reputation usually want it
> associated with *them*, not with some pseudonym.

ACK.

> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
> Vulcan or an elf?

That is a stupid question.

--
F'up2 PointedEars

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<Point...@web.de> wrote:

> Chris Angelico wrote:
>
>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.
>
> For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire
> posting first.

And my signature has less information than the headers. So you're not
deprived of anything.

>>> Some people, including me, also consider posting under real name a basic
>>> act of politeness...
>
> Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have
> written `politeness...' myself.

You might, indeed. But since the triple-period is a standard rendition
of the grammatical notion of ellipsis, it's a generally-understood
notation to indicate the possible omission of quoted text.

>> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
>> Vulcan or an elf?
>
> That is a stupid question.

Of course, my bad. The difference is obvious, I should have known
which without asking.

ChrisA

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
<Point...@web.de> wrote:
> Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have
> written `politeness...' myself.

Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help? Can a reader know
that you put square-bracketed dots and that I didn't omit a lengthy
quoted string? Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather
than matching ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission
instead".

ChrisA

[Ben Finney]

Steven D'Aprano <steve+comp....@pearwood.info> writes:

> (However, I don't promise not to roll my eyes if they choose a silly
> moniker, and I am the final arbitrator as to what counts as silly.)

I also don't promise to remember or comply with their request to be
known by an egregiously silly moniker, with me as the sole arbiter of
what counts as “egregiously silly”.

People have the right to ask to be known by a particular name, but they
are obliged to be reasonable about how successful their request will be
when they ask.

--
\ “I watched the Indy 500, and I was thinking that if they left |
`\ earlier they wouldn't have to go so fast.” —Steven Wright |
_o__) |
Ben Finney

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Ben Finney <ben+p...@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> People have the right to ask to be known by a particular name, but they
> are obliged to be reasonable about how successful their request will be
> when they ask.

Reminds me of what Torhelm said during one of our Dungeons and Dragons
campaigns:

Ancient D&D saying: "People who don't like nicknames shouldn't pick
multisyllabic names."

ChrisA

[Steven D'Aprano]

It was a joke, implying that my mother uses the same "truly unique"
handle as you.

With over 7 billion people on the planet, and no upper limit on the
number of handles anyone can take, together with the lack of any
definitive central registry, I wouldn't put money on any one of them
being unique.

It wouldn't surprise me to learn that now you have claimed Rosuav is
unique to you, some wag (or wags) have rushed out and registered it on
whatever Internet forums you haven't already done so on and are already
posting "I am [insert childish insult of your choice]" in your name.



--
Steven

[Ben Finney]

Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> <Point...@web.de> wrote:
> > Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could
> > have written `politeness...' myself.
>
> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?

They are a long-standing convention for marking an editorial addition or
clarification.

Square brackets – also called simply brackets (US) – are mainly used
to enclose explanatory or missing material usually added by someone
other than the original author, especially in quoted text.

<URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets_.5B_.5D>

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`\ limit of my action.” —Henry James |
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Ben Finney

[Chris Angelico]

Ah. Sure. I get that.

But "Rosuav" is, as far as I know, unique to me in the entire English
language. (I checked once, and there's something in Italian that uses
the same letter combination. Not a person, though.) Yes, it's entirely
possible that someone will deliberately try to sully my name like
that, but I can't imagine that anyone would accidentally hit on it as
an internet username, given that it hasn't happened yet. And sure,
someone might be using it offline that I'm unaware of. I'm prepared to
chance that. :)

So yeah, I probably shouldn't have said "truly unique", but
"effectively unique". Pretty much anything you find on google.com or
duckduckgo.com with the name "rosuav" has come from me, or is
referencing me (and this would include the wag/s you describe, though
I've not seen that happen, and I've been using and claiming this name
for a decade or so - and that's only counting on the internet).

ChrisA

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ben Finney <ben+p...@benfinney.id.au> wrote:
> Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
>> <Point...@web.de> wrote:
>> > Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could
>> > have written `politeness...' myself.
>>
>> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?
>
> They are a long-standing convention for marking an editorial addition or
> clarification.
>
> Square brackets – also called simply brackets (US) – are mainly used
> to enclose explanatory or missing material usually added by someone
> other than the original author, especially in quoted text.
>
> <URL:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bracket#Square_brackets_.5B_.5D>

Right, as is often done with dangling pronouns. "[Square brackets] are
a long-standing convention..." would be a valid way of quoting your
above statement. What I mean is that putting brackets around the
ellipsis adds nothing, and certainly doesn't eliminate ambiguity; the
only advantage is that [...] cannot be confused for a written-in
pause.

ChrisA

[Ian Kelly]

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> <Point...@web.de> wrote:
>> Please use `[...]' or `[…]' to indicate omission instead. I could have
>> written `politeness...' myself.
>

> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?

The square brackets clarify that the ellipsis was not part of the
original quotation but was added at some later point.

> Can a reader know
> that you put square-bracketed dots and that I didn't omit a lengthy
> quoted string?

Irrelevant. Why would an author adhering to common principles of
style ever use square-bracketed dots in a statement that he authored
himself? And if instead your quotation had been of Thomas also
quoting a third party, then it would not be important whether you or
Thomas had added the omission -- the main point is that it wasn't
there originally.

Be that as it may, the MLA no longer requires square brackets around
an ellipsis of omission, so at least from a scholarly standpoint
you're off the hook.

[Chris Angelico]

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Ian Kelly <ian.g...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Irrelevant. Why would an author adhering to common principles of
> style ever use square-bracketed dots in a statement that he authored
> himself?

You mean exactly the way he did in the post you quoted me as quoting?

ChrisA

[Steven D'Aprano]

That's the usual problem with markup. How do you distinguish markup used
as markup from the same characters used as text?

English has a bunch of ad-hoc rules like sticking things in quotation
marks, square brackets or angle brackets, but no systematic way of
escaping markup in general. There's no standard way to distinguish my
writing [...] deliberately (as here) from an editor trimming it, except
from context, and that is notoriously ambiguous.

"Godel, Escher and Bach" by Douglas Hofstadter discusses this sort of
quoting, meta-quoting, etc. in detail. A good read if you want your brain
stretched to the point it starts leaking out of your ears.



--
Steven

[Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn]

Chris Angelico wrote:

> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Chris Angelico wrote:
>>> I have my surname in my From address, but I tend to sign my posts
>>> "ChrisA" (no relation, btw, to DaveA, though our surnames are
>>> similar). That's generally been sufficient for distinguishing
>>> purposes, though if anyone wants a truly unique handle for me,
>>> "Rosuav" is more effective than my real name.
>>
>> For one to read your signature, one has to download and read your entire
>> posting first.
>
> And my signature has less information than the headers. So you're not
> deprived of anything.

With NNTP and IMAP4 it is possible to retrieve only the message header.
Therefore, messages are easier to filter by message header than by message
body. So the former is done, to keep one's input stream's S/N high.

>>> Though I'm now not so sure about your name, PointedEars. Are you a
>>> Vulcan or an elf?
>> That is a stupid question.
>
> Of course, my bad. The difference is obvious, I should have known
> which without asking.

<http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html>

[Grant Edwards]

On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
><Point...@web.de> wrote:

>> Please use `[...]' or `[?]' to indicate omission instead. I could have

>> written `politeness...' myself.
>
> Incidentally, how _do_ the square brackets help?

Because that's the standard method for denoting text that was inserted
by an editor and not written by the original author.

> Can a reader know that you put square-bracketed dots and that I
> didn't omit a lengthy quoted string?

Generally, yes. That's the convention for Usenet and mailing lists.

> Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
> ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".

--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! As President I have
at to go vacuum my coin
gmail.com collection!

[Dan Sommers]

On 2012-08-15 at 13:59:53 +0000,

Grant Edwards <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
> > ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".

When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I
am not dictating.

--
Dan (who doesn't mind whether you use my last name or not)

[Grant Edwards]

On 2012-08-16, Dan Sommers <d...@tombstonezero.net> wrote:
> On 2012-08-15 at 13:59:53 +0000,
> Grant Edwards <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-08-15, Chris Angelico <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Perhaps you said "Please use `m4-style quotes rather than matching
>> > ASCII quotes' or `something else' to indicate omission instead".
>
> When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I
> am not dictating.

Well done!

--
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Do you like "TENDER
at VITTLES"?
gmail.com

[Alex Strickland]

On 2012/08/16 07:01 AM, Dan Sommers wrote:

> When I've got these antlers on I am dictating and when I take them off I
> am not dictating.

Very good.

--
Regards
Alex