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Franck Ditter
Sep 21, 2012, 10:29:55 AM9/21/12
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Hello,
I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
TextWrangler or another.
But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
This works on Windows-7.
Thanks for the tip,
franck
I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
TextWrangler or another.
But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
This works on Windows-7.
Thanks for the tip,
franck
Hans Mulder
Sep 21, 2012, 4:27:49 PM9/21/12
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On 21/09/12 16:29:55, Franck Ditter wrote:
> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
> TextWrangler or another.
> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
> This works on Windows-7.
There's a little pop-menu below the list of files.
> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
> TextWrangler or another.
> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
> This works on Windows-7.
It allows you to choose which kind of files you want to open.
By default, it is set to "Python files", which greys out all
files, except those with a '.py' or '.pyw' extension.
Setting it to "Text files" should help, or else try "All files".
Hope this helps
-- HansM
Franck Ditter
Sep 22, 2012, 3:30:57 AM9/22/12
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In article <505ccdc5$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
Alas this pop-up menu is for Windows only, I don't
find it on MacOS-X. My files are xxx.dat files and not visible,
even text only (numeric data).
This can be filed as something to do !
Thanks,
franck
find it on MacOS-X. My files are xxx.dat files and not visible,
even text only (numeric data).
This can be filed as something to do !
Thanks,
franck
Hans Mulder
Sep 22, 2012, 7:11:00 AM9/22/12
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On 22/09/12 09:30:57, Franck Ditter wrote:
> In article <505ccdc5$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
> Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 21/09/12 16:29:55, Franck Ditter wrote:
>>> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
>>> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
>>> TextWrangler or another.
>>> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
>>> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
>>> This works on Windows-7.
>>
>> There's a little pop-menu below the list of files.
>>
>> It allows you to choose which kind of files you want to open.
>> By default, it is set to "Python files", which greys out all
>> files, except those with a '.py' or '.pyw' extension.
>> Setting it to "Text files" should help, or else try "All files".
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> -- HansM
>
> Alas this pop-up menu is for Windows only, I don't
> find it on MacOS-X.
It's there on my MacOS X 10.6.5 system.
> In article <505ccdc5$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
> Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 21/09/12 16:29:55, Franck Ditter wrote:
>>> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
>>> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
>>> TextWrangler or another.
>>> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
>>> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
>>> This works on Windows-7.
>>
>> There's a little pop-menu below the list of files.
>>
>> It allows you to choose which kind of files you want to open.
>> By default, it is set to "Python files", which greys out all
>> files, except those with a '.py' or '.pyw' extension.
>> Setting it to "Text files" should help, or else try "All files".
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>> -- HansM
>
> Alas this pop-up menu is for Windows only, I don't
> find it on MacOS-X.
If your 10.7 system doesn't show it, that's definitely a bug.
> My files are xxx.dat files and not visible,
> even text only (numeric data).
On Windows, there's a functional difference between .py
and .pyw. On a Mac, there's no functional difference and
Idle is willing to open both types of files, so you could
use .py for code and .pyw for data.
> This can be filed as something to do !
yourself. Idle is written in pure Python; that makes
this sort of thing a lot easier than if it were in C.
And bug reports with a patch are far more likely to be
picked up by the dev team.
Hope this helps,
-- HansM
Ned Deily
Sep 23, 2012, 3:33:16 AM9/23/12
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In article <505d9cc5$0$6846$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
Tk 8.5 on OS X. The python.org 32-bit-only installers are built to link
with the former and, with 8.4, the Open file dialog box does have the
file-type filter menu as Hans describes. The python.org 64-/32-bit
installers link with the newer Cocoa Tk 8.5 and, with it, the Open file
dialog box does not have the filter menu. I'm not sure there is
anything that IDLE or Tkinter can do about that; any change may need to
be by the Tcl/Tk folks. But it would be good if you would open an issue
at bugs.python.org so we can follow up on it.
--
Ned Deily,
n...@acm.org
Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 22/09/12 09:30:57, Franck Ditter wrote:
> > In article <505ccdc5$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
> > Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >> On 21/09/12 16:29:55, Franck Ditter wrote:
> >>> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
> >>> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
> >>> TextWrangler or another.
> >>> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
> >>> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
> >>> This works on Windows-7.
> >>
> >> There's a little pop-menu below the list of files.
> >>
> >> It allows you to choose which kind of files you want to open.
> >> By default, it is set to "Python files", which greys out all
> >> files, except those with a '.py' or '.pyw' extension.
> >> Setting it to "Text files" should help, or else try "All files".
> On 22/09/12 09:30:57, Franck Ditter wrote:
> > In article <505ccdc5$0$6919$e4fe...@news2.news.xs4all.nl>,
> > Hans Mulder <han...@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >> On 21/09/12 16:29:55, Franck Ditter wrote:
> >>> I create a text file utf-8 encoded in Python 3 with IDLE (Mac Lion).
> >>> It runs fine and creates the disk file, visible with
> >>> TextWrangler or another.
> >>> But I can't open it with IDLE (its name is greyed).
> >>> IDLE is supposed to read utf-8 files, no ?
> >>> This works on Windows-7.
> >>
> >> There's a little pop-menu below the list of files.
> >>
> >> It allows you to choose which kind of files you want to open.
> >> By default, it is set to "Python files", which greys out all
> >> files, except those with a '.py' or '.pyw' extension.
> >> Setting it to "Text files" should help, or else try "All files".
> > Alas this pop-up menu is for Windows only, I don't
> > find it on MacOS-X.
>
> It's there on my MacOS X 10.6.5 system.
>
> If your 10.7 system doesn't show it, that's definitely a bug.
This appears to a difference in behavior between Carbon Tk 8.4 and Cocoa
> > find it on MacOS-X.
>
> It's there on my MacOS X 10.6.5 system.
>
> If your 10.7 system doesn't show it, that's definitely a bug.
Tk 8.5 on OS X. The python.org 32-bit-only installers are built to link
with the former and, with 8.4, the Open file dialog box does have the
file-type filter menu as Hans describes. The python.org 64-/32-bit
installers link with the newer Cocoa Tk 8.5 and, with it, the Open file
dialog box does not have the filter menu. I'm not sure there is
anything that IDLE or Tkinter can do about that; any change may need to
be by the Tcl/Tk folks. But it would be good if you would open an issue
at bugs.python.org so we can follow up on it.
--
Ned Deily,
n...@acm.org
Kevin Walzer
Sep 23, 2012, 8:45:06 AM9/23/12
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On 9/23/12 3:33 AM, Ned Deily wrote:
> This appears to a difference in behavior between Carbon Tk 8.4 and Cocoa
> Tk 8.5 on OS X. The python.org 32-bit-only installers are built to link
> with the former and, with 8.4, the Open file dialog box does have the
> file-type filter menu as Hans describes. The python.org 64-/32-bit
> installers link with the newer Cocoa Tk 8.5 and, with it, the Open file
> dialog box does not have the filter menu. I'm not sure there is
> anything that IDLE or Tkinter can do about that; any change may need to
> be by the Tcl/Tk folks. But it would be good if you would open an issue
> at bugs.python.org so we can follow up on it.
It's a function of NSOpenPanel, the underlying native dialog that
> This appears to a difference in behavior between Carbon Tk 8.4 and Cocoa
> Tk 8.5 on OS X. The python.org 32-bit-only installers are built to link
> with the former and, with 8.4, the Open file dialog box does have the
> file-type filter menu as Hans describes. The python.org 64-/32-bit
> installers link with the newer Cocoa Tk 8.5 and, with it, the Open file
> dialog box does not have the filter menu. I'm not sure there is
> anything that IDLE or Tkinter can do about that; any change may need to
> be by the Tcl/Tk folks. But it would be good if you would open an issue
> at bugs.python.org so we can follow up on it.
supports the "open file" dialog on OS X. It doesn't have a "file filter"
capability, and so it will only recognize hard-coded types that are
passed to it, cf. py and txt files. "dat" isn't recognized, I tested it
out. There's nothing to do here; it's an aspect of the native dialog.
--
Kevin Walzer
Code by Kevin
http://www.codebykevin.com
Kevin Walzer
Sep 23, 2012, 10:40:19 AM9/23/12
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On 9/23/12 8:45 AM, Kevin Walzer wrote:
> There's nothing to do here; it's an aspect of the native dialog.
To clarify: there's nothing to do at the C level, which is where the
> There's nothing to do here; it's an aspect of the native dialog.
native dialog is invoked. IDLE can probably be patched to accept other
file types, such as "dat."
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