PL/I Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Robin Vowels
Last-Modified: 1 June 2008
Version: 1.43
FREQUENTLY-ASKED QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
(Q1) What is PL/I?
PL/I is a general-purpose programming language, which
is used for solving problems in a variety of fields
such as commerce, science (including mathematics,
physics, chemistry), engineering (including civil, electrical,
aeronautics), medicine, and so on. It can be used for
system programming, and the facilitites are such that
it is rarely if ever necessary to resort to machine-language
or assembly-language programming to solve problems.
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PL/I can be used for commercial data processing, numerical methods,
text processing, list processing, system programming,
real-time system programming, and picture file processing,
to mention a few specific applications.
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PL/I has outstanding facilities for commercial and business use.
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It has more power than Pascal, Fortran 95, BASIC, C, and
COBOL, and has comparable facilities to Ada.
The main areas where PL/I is superior include interrupt
handling, the built-in debugging aids, the macro
processor facilities, string-handling, and input-output
(see below for a link to a summary).
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The language has good documenting and self-documenting
facilities; programs are easy to read and to understand.
It bears some resemblance to Fortran and BASIC.
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The language is suitable for beginners, as well as for
anyone wanting to become a professional.
For anyone writing programs, a PL/I compiler is a "must have".
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There's a summary of what you'll find in PL/I at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pliwhat.htm
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(Q2) On what systems is it available?
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PL/I is available on at least the following systems:
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IBM PC and compatibles (80x86).
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* IBM VisualAge PL/I: is available in 2 versions:
Professional Edition } Details at the bottom of this posting
Personal Edition }
accompanied by the
live editor LPEX
---available from IBM
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* Liant Open PL/I, for Intel running Windows XP, 2000, Me/98.
Comes with Codewatch, Liant's powerful GUI source code debugger.
---available from Liant Software Corporation,
8911 N Capital of Texas Hwy 354 Waverley Street
Austin, Texas 78759-7267 Framingham, MA 01702
USA USA
Toll free: 1-800-349-9222
Tel: (512) 343-1010 (508) 416-1614 Direct
Fax: (512) 343-9487 or
Tel: (800) 818-4754 X1614 (USA Only)
Fax: (508) 278-3841
(their PL/I generally is available on Unix-based systems)
See http://www.liant.com/products/pl1
for a full range of PL/I products.
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* Windows NT -- available from IBM as VisualAge PL/I Professional
and Personal editions, with the live parsing editor LPEX.
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* Liant Open PL/I for Redhat Linux (Intel).
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* Solaris ix (Intel)
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IBM AS/400
--- available from IBM.
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IBM mainframes
--- The followng versions are available from IBM:
IBM Enterprise PL/I for z/OS and OS/390
provides access to DB2, CICS, IMS, and other data and
transactions systems.
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* VisualAge PL/I for OS/390
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* PL/I for MVS & VM
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* PL/I for VSE
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* PL/I for VSE/ESA is for MVS & VM
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* IBM OS/390 (IBM z/OS) available as Enterprise PL/I.
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HP 9000 HP-UX
--- available from Liant Software Corporation.
Comes with Codewatch, Liant's powerful GUI source code debugger.
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UNIX.
Older versions of Liant Open PL/I exist for Unix variants,
sold off-the-shelf with limited support. Users can
inquire at http://www.liant.com
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SPARC Solaris 2.x
--- available from Liant Software Corporation.
Comes with Codewatch, Liant's powerful GUI source code debugger.
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IBM RS/6000 AIX
--- available from Liant Software Corporation (address above);
Comes with Codewatch, Liant's powerful GUI source
code debugger.
--- also available from IBM as Enterprise PL/I.
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Data General AViiON with DG-UX
--- available from Liant Software Corporation
Comes with Codewatch, Liant's powerful GUI source
code debugger.
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Compaq (formerly Digital Equipment Corporation) on Open VMS and Alpha
AXP systems (Tru64 Unix)
---The compilers from Kednos Corporation for these systems are
called "PL/I for Open VMS" and "PL/I for Tru64 Unix"
respectively. They took over support for PL/I from UniPrise.
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Take a look at Kednos' web page: http://www.kednos.com
for manuals and compilers.
For infomation, contact t...@kednos.com
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Stratus Technologies under Stratus VOS operating system.
--- available from Stratus Technologies,
111 Powder Mill Road,
Maynard, Massachusetts 01754.
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Wang/Getronics systems. Recent updates make the compiler Y2K compliant.
--- available from Wang Laboratories, Billerica, Mass.
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Fujitsu-Siemens BS2000 system.
--- visit them at:
http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/servers/pl1/pl1_us.htm
where you can download a specification brochure in PDF format.
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(Q3) How can I try out PL/I?
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There's the original Digital Research PL/I for DOS at:
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http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/barnes_firsnorton/files
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Make sure you get the PL/I library and all the other stuff.
DR PL/I is a subset of PL/I, of course, because it had to fit
in 64K originally (I think).
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Other sites also had it, but may no longer be active:
http://www.wolfenet.com/~nalcott/">Discus Distribution.
And
http://www.mathcs.emory.edu/~cfs/cpm
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It's a subset of PL/I, of course, because it had to fit
in 64K originally (I think). There's the original manual too,
in MS Word 6 format, but as it's been scanned, it is incomplete.
The corresponding PL/I Reference Manual is in Microsoft Word 6 format,
zipped at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/ref-w6.zip
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If that mirror site is down, you could try to link to the main site at:
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http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm/cpm.html
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but as there have been problems connecting to it, don't count on it.
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Find the PCDOS section, and then check out DOWNLOADS.
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Be sure to download the utilities (including the linker)
as well as the compiler and sample codes.
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You'll also need the compiler flags to use it, at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/options.txt
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If you want the CP/M-86 PL/I compiler:
http://public.planet.mirror.com/pubs/cpm/binary.htm
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On the VMS platform, either VAX or Alpha --
For personal use, the Kednos PL/I compiler
and documentation may be downloaded free from http://www.kednos.com .
To run the free version, you will need a
Hobbyist license, which may be obtained by following the links
at http://www.kednos.com .
If you don't have VMS, you can run the CHARON VAX emulator on W2K.
.
Here's another suggestion from From: "Tom Linden" <t...@kednos.com>,
Kednos Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:17:57.
.
Purchase either PWS xxx (where xxx = 433, 500 or 600)
or XP1000 Alpha box, you can probably get one for $200 to $600
off ebay, install Hobbyist version of VMS and Hobbyist version
of PL/I, both free and you will have a far superior environment.
You will never see a BSOD and you will never get hacked.
Install WASD web server, also free, you will have a hack-proof
high performance web server.
There is also a lot more freeware available.
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(Q4) What do the compilers provide?</H3>
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All compilers provide enhanced versions of the ANSI standard
(the IBM AS/400 adheres to SAA rules, and DR PL/I implements
the subset G). There's a
summary of what you'll find in PL/I at:
.
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pliwhat.htm
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Example PL/I source code, to implement the new built-in functions
(on systems other than OS/2, VisualAge for Windows, AIX systems
and Enterprise PL/I for z/OS, and earlier systems) for:
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The SEARCH built-in function:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/search.htm
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The SEARCHR built-in function at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/searchr.htm
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and the VERIFY (3 argument version) and VERIFYR built-in functions at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/verify.htm
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(these are in plain text form).
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Further PL/I examples of a tutorial nature are at
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/shell.htm
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(an insertion sort), and a
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/lists.htm
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(a linked list creation procedure (under construction)).
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In each case, click on the keywords for an explanation.
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The IBM products deserve special attention because
the same PL/I features are available on z/OS, Windows, and AIX.
(they are the OS/2 compiler ported to these other systems).
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In the cases of IBM Enterprise PL/I for z/OS,
PL/I set for AIX, VisualAge PL/I for Windows,
and VisualAge PL/I for OS/2,
some important new language features are
provided and include:
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(a) strongly-typed list processing in which the pointers
(handles) are bound to the structures with which they
are linked;
(b) ordinals;
(c) user-defined types;
(d) Unsigned integer type;
(e) New DO loop options that cause the loop to
terminate without overrunning the limit (specifically
for ordinals and unsigned integers); and
(f) A much-enhanced macro-processor.
(g) A data type DATE for handling two-digit and
four-digit years that,
together with new date functions, are
known as the Millennium Language Extensions.
(h) Initial support for wide character set, enabling such files to be
read and written. A number of new built-in functions for
wide characters is provided.
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(this is not an exhaustive list)
There are also some 120 new built-in functions, including
extra-special DATE/TIME functions, string-handling
functions, housekeeping functions (e.g.,
where-am-I-called-from?), and ordinal functions
(including a function to supply the name of an ordinal!).
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(Q5) What textbooks are available?
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Some of the best include:
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R.A. Barnes, PL/I for Programmers, North-Holland, 1979.
J.K. Hughes, PL/I Structured Programming, 3rd Ed., Wiley, 1986.
G.F. Groner, PL/I Programming in Technological Applications,
Books on Demand, Ann Arbor, MI, 1971.
M.E. Anderson, PL/I for Programmers, Prentice-Hall, 1973.
D.R. Stoutemyer, PL/I Programming for Engineering & Science,
Prentice-Hall, 1971.
R. Reddy & C. Ziegler, PL/I: Structured Programming and
Problem Solving, West, 1986, ISBN 0-314-93915-6.
Check out the Table of Contents:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/reddy.txt
E. J. Newhold & H. W.Lawson, The PL/I Machine, Addison-Wesley,
Reading (Mass), 1971.
E. Sturm, Das neue PL/I (fur PC, Workstations and Mainframe
(in German language), 6th Ed.,
Vieweg-Verlag (2007)
ISBN: 3-528-44792-9.
See the table of contents at:
http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/EberhardSturm.html
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R. A. Vowels, http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/PLI-BOOK.HTM
Introduction to PL/I, Algorithms, and
Structured Programming, 3rd revised Ed.,
ISBN 0-9596384-9-0. 600+ pages, A4 size.
See a list of the main algorithms at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/algor-p.htm
Comes with a disc containing all the programs,
procedures, and functions from the book. The
disc was first published in October 1996, and
was last updated in January 2005.
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The following are good PL/I reference manuals. (The
new facilities of PL/I for OS/2 are highlighted. Therefore
you can use these manuals as references on either mainframe or
PC system.)
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IBM, PL/I for OS/2: Language Reference, 1994 edition
IBM, PL/I for OS/2: Built-in Functions, 1994 edition
IBM, VisualAge PL/I Language Reference, Version 2.1, 1998 edition.
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(Q6) Is there a newsletter?
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Yes.
The April 2006 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n9.htm
The January 2005 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n8.htm
The December 2003 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n7.htm
The December 2002 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n6.htm
The August 2002 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n5.htm
The November 2001 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n4.htm
The June 2001 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n3.htm
The September 2000 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n2.htm
You may download the July 2000 issue from:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli-n1.doc
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(Q7) Is there a home page?
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There are at least eight of interest:
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/pli
IBM's PL/I Home page. Click on the
"about" button for the "What is PL/I" page.
Click on the "Library" button for PL/I Reference
Manuals for various IBM platforms.
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http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/pli/about.htm
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What is PL/I ? </A> gives you an overview of PL/I.
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http://www.liant.com Liant Software Corporation
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(then click on the LPI button)
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http://www.dec.com/home.html Digital
(then select OpenVMS ..., or you may find the direct
link quicker ->
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http://www.kednos.com Kednos
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http://www.yahoo.com/Computers_and_Internet/Languages/
Yahoo's Language directory </A>
Or if you prefer, you can start on
http://www.yahoo.com/
Yahoo's main directory and take
it from there. When the Languages display comes up, go beneath the
main list, where you'll find PL/I. Click on that, and then you can
go to different sites.
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http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/pli.htm
Peter Flass's PL/I home page.
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/why_not.htm
Why not use PL/I </A>?
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Other possible sites are as follows:
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Japan: http://www.ibm.co.jp/pc/prod/sa/0272.html
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If you know of any other home pages, please advise the author.
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(Q8) Where can I find discussion groups?
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* A PL/I newsgroup was established in January 1996
following the passing on 3 January 1996 of voting for
the newsgroup "comp.lang.pl1" (350 votes for, 18
votes against).
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* Join PL...@listserv.dartmouth.edu on the internet.
To subscribe, send a note to list...@listserv.dartmouth.edu
In the body of the note, enter:
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SUB PL1-L yourname
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To post a comment, send it to pl...@listserv.dartmouth.edu
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* On Compuserve, enter: go os2df1
Then go to subsection 6: "Rexx and other languages".
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See also http://www.software.ibm.com/ad/pli/pliforum.htm
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* Russian: Discussion of PL/I in Russian takes place on
relcom.comp.os.os2.prog
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* German: Seems to take place at: de.comp.sys.amiga.misc
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* Or consider attending a SHARE PL/I presentation as either a
spectator or presenter. Postings appear from time to
time in comp.lang.pl1
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(Q9) How did PL/I originate?
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PL/I came into being as a result of an attempt to produce
a revision of FORTRAN in about 1964. Such were the changes
necessary that it was not possible to introduce the new features
needed to bring FORTRAN up-to-date, and to be compatible with
existing programs, that it was decided to introduce a
new language that incorporated the best features of the
then main languages FORTRAN, COBOL, and Algol.
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Originally, the new language was called "New Programming
Language", or NPL. However, as these initials were
already taken by the National Physics Laboratory in
Britain, the name became PL/I (for Programming Language One).
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First introduced in 1966, the new language contained features
not then seen before in a general-purpose programming language --
including interrupt handling, array operations, list processing,
and a macro pre-processor.
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There is some controvesy over the name -- whether it is PL/I
or PL/1. The first manuals (for the first compiler, the
IBM PL/I (F) compiler) called it PL/I, not PL/1. The ANSI
standard calls it PL/I. The title of the first reference
manual is:
"IBM System 360 PL/I (F) Language Reference Manual", 1966.
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(Q10) What tools are available?
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Some are: [this question is under construction]
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PL/I Analyzer is a reverse engineeering and re-engineering tool,
available from
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http://www.phoenixst.com/pli-analyzer-info-sheet-1-5.html
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Phoenix Software Technologies, 6701 Democracy Blvd,
Suite 300, Bethesda MD 20817, U.S.A. Tel (301) 571-2431
email: in...@phoenixst.com
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Version 2.0 is the latest, with Year 2000 diagnosis.
Phoenix has also released PLI-2000, a tool for locating
Year 2000 problems.
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Phoenix Software Technologies provides tools and services for Software
Maintenance, legacy Software reengineering and the Year 2000
(Y2K, Millennium) Problem including PL/I and Natural/Adabas.
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MicroFocus offers tools to accompany PL/I for OS/2. For more infomation,
contact them at Suite 400, 2465 East Bayshore Road, Palo Alto, CA 94303, U.S.A.
Visit: http://www.mfltd.co.uk/
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PLIFORM is a PL/I source code formatter, available from
Magicon, Inc. You'll find them at:
1124 Linda Drive, Campbell, California 95008-4507, U.S.A.
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Peter Osterman's PL/I source code reformatter.
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The PL/I source code reformatter for Windows (formpli3.exe,
414k self extracting file) created by Peter Ostermann of Germany
is now freeware.
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The PL/I source code reformatter at:
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http://home.nwn.de/peter.ostermann/formpli3.exe
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can help make jumbled code more readable by putting statements
on separate lines and pointing out the nesting levels by indention.
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The reformatter is a standalone product, is easy to use, and
does the job in a few seconds. It requires just one megabyte
of disk space, so give it a try.
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Send suggestions or comments to: Peter-O...@t-online.de
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Visit: http://home.nwn.de/peter.ostermann/hobby.html
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for more information and download on Peter's personal web page.
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This PL/I package from Eberhard Sturm implements the REXX parse macro
on the mainframe and the workstation:
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http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/EberhardSturm/parse.inc
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(Q11) What's happening? What conferences?
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Find out what's new?
http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/wots-hot.htm
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(Q12) Where can I read about PL/I?
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* The URL http://www.ionet.net/~mclapper/
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is a white paper on object-oriented PL/I programming.
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The paper </i>PL/I for OS/2</i>by R. Vowels describes new features
of PL/I for OS/2. It
appeared in ACM SIGLAN Notices, Vol. 31 No. 3, March 1996.
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Do a Google search for "PL/I for OS/2".
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* An interesting article on PL/I appeared in the Enterprise
Systems Journal in December 1995. You can view Lou Marco's
"In Praise of PL/I" at:
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/enterp.htm
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* Has the King Returned? by Conrad Weisser makes interesting reading.
ACM SIGPLAN Notices, Vol. 28 No. 4, April 1993.
http://www.kednos.com/king.pdf
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Do a google search for "Has the King Returmed".
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* Why not take a look at the paper
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http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/EberhardSturm/PL1andC.html
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Power vs Adventure -- PL/I and C ?
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* Another paper on PL/I and C is Richard Perkinson's "To 'C' or Not to 'C'"
at http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/perkins.htm
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* F. J. Corbato's paper on choice of PL/I as a systems programming language
is worth a read.
http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/PLI/plisprg.html
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For an implementation of Object-Oriented Programming:
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Patrick Senti implemented a precompiler to PL/I to support
object-oriented programming in PL/I - in 1994. He has contributed
it to the open source community and made it available at
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http://sourceforge.net/projects/oopli.
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To order PL/I:
IBM PL/I provides compatible, cross-platform,
cross-product compilers that support z/OS, OS/390, VM, VSE/ESA,
AS/400, AIX, and Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000.
To order IBM PL/I, contact IBM in your country.
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Liant's Open PL/I may be purchased from Liant at:
http://www.liant.com/products/pl1
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You may read this in http://www.users.bigpond.com/robin_v/pli_faq.htm
William M. Klein
The section on
"Liant Open PL/I,"
needs updating. See:
http://www.microfocus.com/products/OpenPLI/index.asp
--
Bill Klein
wmklein <at> ix.netcom.com
"Robin Vowels" <rob...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:computer-lang/pli-faq_1...@rtfm.mit.edu...
robin
news:EDEok.452700$I42.1...@fe04.news.easynews.com...
> Robin,
> The section on
> "Liant Open PL/I,"
> needs updating.
I know that. Won't be able to update it for a couple of weeks.
robin
Subject: PL/I Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
From: rob...@bigpond.com (Robin Vowels)
Followup-To: comp.lang.pl1
Reply-To: rob...@bigpond.com
Summary: This posting contains a list of Frequently Asked
Questions (and their answers) about PL/I --
Programming Language One. It should be read by anyone
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It is of interest to anyone wanting to read any
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FREQUENTLY-ASKED QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
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(Q1) What is PL/I?
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http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pliwhat.htm
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(Q2) On what systems is it available?
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PL/I is available on at least the following systems:
.
IBM PC and compatibles (80x86).
.
* IBM VisualAge PL/I: is available in 2 versions:
Professional Edition } Details at the bottom of this posting
Personal Edition }
accompanied by the
live editor LPEX
---available from IBM
.
* A new ALPHA version of the Iron Spring PL/I compiler for OS/2
is now available for free download at:
http://www.iron-spring.com
.
This is the sixth alpha version. It is still missing many features,
but is working well enough to compile itself and its runtime library.
The "release notes" included in the package document some, but not
all, of the current restrictions. The 1.0 release is expected to be
roughly a "Subset G" compiler. Eventually the compiler will handle
the full PL/I language plus extensions from other compilers.
.
Version 0.6a implements the %REPLACE preprocessor statement, adds the
'FROMALIEN' procedure option to allow calls to PL/I from other
languages, and packages the runtime library as a DLL and import
library in addition to the previously distributed static object
library.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/ref-w6.zip
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If that mirror site is down, you could try to link to the main site at:
.
http://cdl.uta.edu/cpm/cpm.html
.
but as there have been problems connecting to it, don't count on it.
.
Find the PCDOS section, and then check out DOWNLOADS.
.
Be sure to download the utilities (including the linker)
as well as the compiler and sample codes.
.
You'll also need the compiler flags to use it, at:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/options.txt
.
If you want the CP/M-86 PL/I compiler:
http://public.planet.mirror.com/pubs/cpm/binary.htm
.
On the VMS platform, either VAX or Alpha --
For personal use, the Kednos PL/I compiler
and documentation may be downloaded free from http://www.kednos.com .
To run the free version, you will need a
Hobbyist license, which may be obtained by following the links
at http://www.kednos.com .
If you don't have VMS, you can run the CHARON VAX emulator on W2K.
.
Here's another suggestion from From: "Tom Linden" <t...@kednos.com>,
Kednos Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:17:57.
.
Purchase either PWS xxx (where xxx = 433, 500 or 600)
or XP1000 Alpha box, you can probably get one for $200 to $600
off ebay, install Hobbyist version of VMS and Hobbyist version
of PL/I, both free and you will have a far superior environment.
You will never see a BSOD and you will never get hacked.
Install WASD web server, also free, you will have a hack-proof
high performance web server.
There is also a lot more freeware available.
.
Ironspring PL/I, runs under OS/2. Free download from
.
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pflass/PLI/
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It's still under development, implements most of PL/I.
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(Q4) What do the compilers provide?</H3>
.
All compilers provide enhanced versions of the ANSI standard
(the IBM AS/400 adheres to SAA rules, and DR PL/I implements
the subset G). There's a
summary of what you'll find in PL/I at:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pliwhat.htm
.
Example PL/I source code, to implement the new built-in functions
(on systems other than OS/2, VisualAge for Windows, AIX systems
and Enterprise PL/I for z/OS, and earlier systems) for:
.
The SEARCH built-in function:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/search.htm
.
The SEARCHR built-in function at:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/searchr.htm
.
and the VERIFY (3 argument version) and VERIFYR built-in functions at:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/verify.htm
.
(these are in plain text form).
.
Further PL/I examples of a tutorial nature are at
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/shell.htm
.
(an insertion sort), and a
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/lists.htm
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/reddy.txt
E. J. Newhold & H. W.Lawson, The PL/I Machine, Addison-Wesley,
Reading (Mass), 1971.
E. Sturm, The New PL/I ... for PC, Workstation and Mainframe,
Vieweg-Teubner, Wiesbaden, Germany, 2009.
ISBN: 978-3-8348-0726-7.
E. Sturm, Das neue PL/I (fur PC, Workstations und Mainframe)
(in German language), 7th Ed.,
Vieweg-Verlag (2008)
ISBN: 3-528-44792-3
See the table of contents at:
http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/EberhardSturm.html
.
R. A. Vowels, http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/PLI-BOOK.HTM
Introduction to PL/I, Algorithms, and
Structured Programming, 3rd revised Ed.,
ISBN 0-9596384-9-0. 600+ pages, A4 size.
See a list of the main algorithms at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/algor-p.htm
Comes with a disc containing all the programs,
procedures, and functions from the book. The
disc was first published in October 1996, and
was last updated in January 2005.
.
The following are good PL/I reference manuals. (The
new facilities of PL/I for OS/2 are highlighted. Therefore
you can use these manuals as references on either mainframe or
PC system.)
.
IBM, PL/I for OS/2: Language Reference, 1994 edition
IBM, PL/I for OS/2: Built-in Functions, 1994 edition
IBM, VisualAge PL/I Language Reference, Version 2.1, 1998 edition.
.
(Q6) Is there a newsletter?
.
Yes.
The June 2008 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n10.htm
The April 2006 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n9.htm
The January 2005 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n8.htm
The December 2003 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n7.htm
The December 2002 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n6.htm
The August 2002 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n5.htm
The November 2001 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n4.htm
The June 2001 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n3.htm
The September 2000 issue of "The PL/I Newsletter" may be viewed at:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n2.htm
You may download the July 2000 issue from:
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli-n1.doc
http://home.roadrunner.com/~pflass/mirrors/robin_v/
A mirror site for Robin Vowels' site.
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/why_not.htm
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/wots-hot.htm
.
(Q12) Where can I read about PL/I?
.
* The URL http://www.ionet.net/~mclapper/
.
is a white paper on object-oriented PL/I programming.
.
The paper </i>PL/I for OS/2</i>by R. Vowels describes new features
of PL/I for OS/2. It
appeared in ACM SIGLAN Notices, Vol. 31 No. 3, March 1996.
.
Do a Google search for "PL/I for OS/2".
.
* An interesting article on PL/I appeared in the Enterprise
Systems Journal in December 1995. You can view Lou Marco's
"In Praise of PL/I" at:
.
http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/enterp.htm
.
* Has the King Returned? by Conrad Weisser makes interesting reading.
ACM SIGPLAN Notices, Vol. 28 No. 4, April 1993.
http://www.kednos.com/king.pdf
.
Do a google search for "Has the King Returmed".
.
* Why not take a look at the paper
.
http://www.uni-muenster.de/ZIV/Mitarbeiter/EberhardSturm/PL1andC.html
.
Power vs Adventure -- PL/I and C ?
.
* Another paper on PL/I and C is Richard Perkinson's "To 'C' or Not to 'C'"
at http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/perkins.htm
.
* F. J. Corbato's paper on choice of PL/I as a systems programming language
is worth a read.
http://home.nycap.rr.com/pflass/PLI/plisprg.html
.
For an implementation of Object-Oriented Programming:
.
Patrick Senti implemented a precompiler to PL/I to support
object-oriented programming in PL/I - in 1994. He has contributed
it to the open source community and made it available at
.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/oopli.
.
To order PL/I:
IBM PL/I provides compatible, cross-platform,
cross-product compilers that support z/OS, OS/390, VM, VSE/ESA,
AS/400, AIX, and Microsoft Windows NT and Windows 2000.
To order IBM PL/I, contact IBM in your country.
.
Liant's Open PL/I may be purchased from Liant at:
http://www.liant.com/products/pl1
.
You may read this in http://members.dodo.com.au/~robin51/pli_faq.htm
.
Also at the mirror site at:
William M. Klein
"Micro Focus"
is consistantly missspelled as one word.
Unless this is fixed by the next update, I will be passing this along to the
"Micro Focus" legal department for whatever action they deem appropriate.
NOTE: in ULR's the name may be spelled as a single "word" but in text in
NEVER should be.
"robin" <rob...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:_SfGm.50740$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
robin
| As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
| "Micro Focus"
Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
Ordinary words cannot be trademarked nor can they be copyrighted.
| is consistantly missspelled as one word.
There is only one instance. Did I leave out a space?
Do you have something better to do today?
John W Kennedy
> "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
> news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
>
> | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
> | "Micro Focus"
>
> Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
microfocus.com website.
> Ordinary words cannot be trademarked nor can they be copyrighted.
Of course they can be trademarked. "International Business Machines".
"National Cash Register". "Control Data". "General Electric". "Radio
Corporation of America". Not to mention "Apple".
The further notion that words cannot be copyrighted is, of course, pure
hilarity.
--
John W. Kennedy
"Give up vows and dogmas, and fixed things, and you may grow like That.
...you may come to think a blow bad, because it hurts, and not because
it humiliates. You may come to think murder wrong, because it is
violent, and not because it is unjust."
-- G. K. Chesterton. "The Ball and the Cross"
robin
| robin wrote:
| > "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
| > news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
| >
| > | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
| > | "Micro Focus"
| >
| > Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
|
| Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
| microfocus.com website.
Well, it's not.
| > Ordinary words cannot be trademarked nor can they be copyrighted.
|
| Of course they can be trademarked. "International Business Machines".
| "National Cash Register". "Control Data". "General Electric". "Radio
| Corporation of America". Not to mention "Apple".
|
| The further notion that words cannot be copyrighted is, of course, pure
| hilarity.
Normal english words cannot be copyrighted.
You are confusing copyright with registered business name,
which are entirely different things.
Now, the insignia "IBM" having white lines thru it was (IIRC) trademarked,
but aparently is no longer so.
After a time, copyright words can become ordinary words, such as "xerox".
John W Kennedy
> In <4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net>, on 10/31/2009
> at 01:15 AM, John W Kennedy <jwk...@attglobal.net> said:
>
>> The further notion that words cannot be copyrighted is, of course, pure
>> hilarity.
>
> able to get a copyright on the phrase "stupidity above and beyond the call
> of duty", but not on the individual words.
Of course, but robin's [sic] original claim was phrased so as to imply,
in its context, that even things made up of words could not be
copyrighted, quod absurdum est.
John W Kennedy
> "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net...
> | robin wrote:
> | > "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
> | > news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
> | >
> | > | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
> | > | "Micro Focus"
> | >
> | > Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
> |
> | Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
> | microfocus.com website.
>
> Well, it's not.
I told you where to look, so either you didn't look, in which case
you're an ass, or you did look, and you're lying, in which case you're
something worse than an ass.
--
John W. Kennedy
"Information is light. Information, in itself, about anything, is light."
-- Tom Stoppard. "Night and Day"
Tim C.
<news:4af8b834$0$5008$607e...@cv.net> :
> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>> In <4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net>, on 10/31/2009
>> at 01:15 AM, John W Kennedy <jwk...@attglobal.net> said:
>>
>>> The further notion that words cannot be copyrighted is, of course, pure
>>> hilarity.
>>
>> But nonetheless true. A copyright requires originality. I might have been
>> able to get a copyright on the phrase "stupidity above and beyond the call
>> of duty", but not on the individual words.
>
> Of course, but robin's [sic] original claim was phrased so as to imply,
> in its context, that even things made up of words could not be
> copyrighted, quod absurdum est.
But surely "Micro Focus" is simply a trademark. And almost anything can be
trademarked, even the colour purple for Cadbury's chocolate wrappers.
--
Tim C.
Donald L. Dobbs
And there are trademarks (tm) and registered trademarks (circle R) and
there are service marks.
John W Kennedy
Yes, but "robin" [sic] said that "Micro Focus" couldn't be a trademark
because it was made up of words, and then said that things made up of
words couldn't be copyrighted either. Started with an error, and then
generalized it to a great, flaming ball of self-evident idiocy.
Tim C.
<news:4af9ea93$0$4998$607e...@cv.net> :
> Tim C. wrote:
>> On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:47:47 -0500, John W Kennedy wrote in post :
>> <news:4af8b834$0$5008$607e...@cv.net> :
>>
>>> Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote:
>>>> In <4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net>, on 10/31/2009
>>>> at 01:15 AM, John W Kennedy <jwk...@attglobal.net> said:
>>>>
>>>>> The further notion that words cannot be copyrighted is, of course, pure
>>>>> hilarity.
>>>> But nonetheless true. A copyright requires originality. I might have been
>>>> able to get a copyright on the phrase "stupidity above and beyond the call
>>>> of duty", but not on the individual words.
>>> Of course, but robin's [sic] original claim was phrased so as to imply,
>>> in its context, that even things made up of words could not be
>>> copyrighted, quod absurdum est.
>>
>> But surely "Micro Focus" is simply a trademark. And almost anything can be
>> trademarked, even the colour purple for Cadbury's chocolate wrappers.
>
> Yes, but "robin" [sic] said that "Micro Focus" couldn't be a trademark
> because it was made up of words, and then said that things made up of
> words couldn't be copyrighted either. Started with an error, and then
> generalized it to a great, flaming ball of self-evident idiocy.
Wasn't it an Australian who was granted a patent on the wheel a few years
ago?
You can trademark almost anything. Take a look at the EU trademark
database.
"
Legally speaking, a trade mark is a sign which serves to distinguish the
goods and services of one organisation from those of another.
Trade marks are words, logos, devices or other distinctive features which
can be represented graphically. They can consist of, for example, the shape
of goods, their packaging, sounds and smells."
--
Tim C.
Tim C.
<news:4af99a2f$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net> :
> An actual word cannot be trademark,
Oh yes it can. The trademark however is only valid in context. To identify
a product or service. I doesn't stop anyone else using the word in the
normal way, except where you are using it as a trademark for your own
product.
> In this case "micro focus" is a phrase rather than a
>single word, and wouldn't be an English word if you removed the space, ...
But the space isn't removed, it's there. It's two words, the combination of
which is a trademark of the company.
>I believe that the USPTO is where to check for US trademarks.
It's /a/ place to check. I already posted what the EU Trademark
registration office thinks. The two are almost identical. The USPTO
definition which is:
"What is a trademark and a service mark?
A trademark includes any word, name, symbol, or device, or any combination
used, or intended to be used, in commerce to identify and distinguish the
goods of one manufacturer or seller from goods manufactured or sold by
others, and to indicate the source of the goods. In short, a trademark is a
brand name."
You can register colours and smells trademarks even (their definition a
little more difficult though :-) ).
I left wondering why people find this so difficult to get?
--
Tim C.
glen herrmannsfeldt
(snip)
> A trademark includes any word, name, symbol, or device, or any combination
> used, or intended to be used, in commerce to identify and distinguish the
> goods of one manufacturer or seller from goods manufactured or sold by
> others, and to indicate the source of the goods. In short, a trademark is a
> brand name."
> You can register colours and smells trademarks even (their definition a
> little more difficult though :-) ).
> I left wondering why people find this so difficult to get?
As I remember the story, you can't trademark three digit numbers.
That is why intel switched to names (pentium) instead of numbers (486).
Though so far Boeing doesn't seem to have any problem with theirs.
-- glen
Tim C.
: <news:hdglil$5ok$1...@naig.caltech.edu> :
I suspect it was just that another company had registered similar numbers
already to those they wanted to register. Or something like that.
486 and 586 were trademarked by Intel though:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:mhhvr8.8.37
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4009:mhhvr8.9.2
--
Tim C.
Tim C.
<news:1iv8oachc8mul$.x5nvy9l...@40tude.net> :
> 486 and 586 were trademarked by Intel though:
* I mean registered. You don't have to register for a trademark to exist,
though it does give you a firmer footing when fighting infringements.
--
Tim C.
John W Kennedy
No, there really was a lawsuit between Intel and AMD, and the ruling
really was that Intel had no trademark protection against rivals naming
their versions of the 80486 processor chip "something486something", etc.
I'm sure there /are/ protectable number trademarks ("Pepsi One" and
"Mobil One" come to mind), but the uniqueness of a number in a trademark
is generally not something to bet on.
John W Kennedy
> at 08:34 AM, "Tim C." <spam...@tele2.at> said:
>
>> I left wondering why people find this so difficult to get?
>
With what? It is a fact that a common English word can be a trademark
within a given context -- "Apple", for example.
--
John W. Kennedy
A proud member of the reality-based community.
glen herrmannsfeldt
(snip)
> With what? It is a fact that a common English word can be a trademark
> within a given context -- "Apple", for example.
There have been many questions about the Apple trademark related
to the Beatles record company. At some point they had an agreement
with Apple computer that one would stick to computers, the other
would stick to music. As we all know, that isn't the way
it worked out, resulting in various lawsuits.
I don't know of any conflict with the kind you find in grocery
stores. Maybe when the computer company starts selling products
in grocery stores, then that one will come up.
-- glen
Tim C.
<news:4afc472c$1$fuzhry+tra$mr2...@news.patriot.net> :
>>I left wondering why people find this so difficult to get?
>
> Court decisions that conflict with it.
The court cases I suspect were because of the /similarity/ of two marks,
leading to confusion and claims of competing firms copy-catting (AMD and
Intel both registered marks with the number "486" within them), rather than
the actual fact of being allowed to TM numbers.
Look through the US database in the link in one of my other posts and
you'll find loads of "just" number TMs.
--
Tim C.
Tim C.
<news:4afc7b70$0$31272$607e...@cv.net> :
> "something486something",
Fair enough, as "something486something", isn't 486. So stopping another
company using "something486something" won't work if you only have "486"
yourself. A number (or a word) /in/ a trademark isn't itself a trademark.
It's only part of it. It's the /whole/ thing that is a trademark.
The courts can decide which two TMs are too similar if anyone cares to
complain.
Be that as it may, the it is still possible to register a number, either
alone or with other words as a TM.
--
Tim C.
Tim E. Sneddon
Who knows, that may be sooner than you think. Already plenty of
grocery stores sell stuff on-line. How long before Apple comes
out with iGroceries? Maybe you can order your groceries from
the iGroceries webstore on your iPhone while running wearing your
Nike shoes with built-in iPod/iPhone transmitter?
Maybe, for legal reasons, you'll be able to purchase most popular
fruit, with the exception of apples :-)
Tim.
robin
| robin wrote:
| > "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net...
| > | robin wrote:
| > | > "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
| > | > news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
| > | >
| > | > | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
| > | > | "Micro Focus"
| > | >
| > | > Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
| > |
| > | Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
| > | microfocus.com website.
| >
| > Well, it's not.
|
| I told you where to look, so either you didn't look, in which case
| you're an ass, or you did look, and you're lying, in which case you're
| something worse than an ass.
As I said, it's not.
Why don't you ... have a good day.
John W Kennedy
> "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4af8b8a2$0$4997$607e...@cv.net...
> | robin wrote:
> | > "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net...
> | > | robin wrote:
> | > | > "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
> | > | >
> | > | > | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
> | > | > | "Micro Focus"
> | > | >
> | > | > Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
> | > |
> | > | Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
> | > | microfocus.com website.
> | >
> | > Well, it's not.
> |
> | I told you where to look, so either you didn't look, in which case
> | you're an ass, or you did look, and you're lying, in which case you're
> | something worse than an ass.
>
> As I said, it's not.
So you're lying.
Why don't you and "kris1980" run off to a desert island together? You
deserve each other.
--
John W. Kennedy
"The grand art mastered the thudding hammer of Thor
And the heart of our lord Taliessin determined the war."
-- Charles Williams. "Mount Badon"
Tim C.
<news:l2YNm.56522$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au> :
The top left hand corner of every page is a bit of a difficult place to
look, I guess.
MICRO FOCUS in two words, with the blue, boxy logo is clearly a trademark,
even if it isn't registered (which I bet it is, going by the last paragraph
on their legal page).
--
Tim C.
robin
| robin wrote:
| > "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4af8b8a2$0$4997$607e...@cv.net...
| > | robin wrote:
| > | > "John W Kennedy" <jwk...@attglobal.net> wrote in message news:4aebc808$0$4991$607e...@cv.net...
| > | > | robin wrote:
| > | > | > "William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:AkjGm.101439$Jp1....@en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > | As previously pointed out the (trademarked) name
| > | > | > | "Micro Focus"
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Micro Focus is not a trademarked name.
| > | > |
| > | > | Yes it is, as can be trivially determined by examining the
| > | > | microfocus.com website.
| > | >
| > | > Well, it's not.
| > |
| > | I told you where to look, so either you didn't look, in which case
| > | you're an ass, or you did look, and you're lying, in which case you're
| > | something worse than an ass.
| >
| > As I said, it's not.
|
| So you're lying.
So why are you being a bad tempered old fogey?
William M. Klein
William M. Klein
followed - but this one went out due to an erroneous keystroke on my part.
"William M. Klein" <wmk...@nospam.netcom.com> wrote in message
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