which ajax framework?
Sirius Black
I'd like to learn ho to use ajax
I havo problem in php and html
I have more problem in javascripts
which framework would you advise to start working in ajax?
jquery?
prototype? other framworks?
thanks
Jerry Stuckle
Why ask javascript questions in a PHP newsgroup? Try comp.lang.javascript.
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Curtis Dyer
Have you tried Google?
As Jerry indicates, comp.lang.javascript is a better place to ask.
Before posting, however, you should consider reading the newsgroup's
FAQ:
<http://www.jibbering.com/faq/#ajaxRef>
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Gordon
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While that's nominally the correct group, they'll invariably tell him
that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
morons, and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
javascript group to try.
July Yang
Captain Paralytic
Well the obvious php based answer to this is xajax
http://xajaxproject.org/
This lets you develop php centric ajax type applications as opposed to
javascript centric.
rf
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>? 2010/6/2 16:16, Sirius Black ??:
>> Hello everybody
>> I'd like to learn ho to use ajax
>> I havo problem in php and html
>> I have more problem in javascripts
>>
>> which framework would you advise to start working in ajax?
>> jquery?
>> prototype? other framworks?
>>
>> thanks
> of course jquery
No.
Captain Paralytic
> In article
> <5cbc66b0-034a-48e4-b64b-8f0aff5b5...@r9g2000vbk.googlegroups.com>,
> Captain Paralytic <paul_laut...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Well the obvious php based answer to this is xajax
> >http://xajaxproject.org/
>
> > This lets you develop php centric ajax type applications as opposed to
> > javascript centric.
>
I would have thought the answer to that would be obvious.
So that one can give an on-topic answer to the question in a ph
newsgroup!
> Oh - and I don't use any framework at all. By the time you've discovered
> how one works, you can write your own.
Well you could say that about most things, including php's plethora
of array functions.
Jerry Stuckle
> On Jun 2, 2:57 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> Sirius Black wrote:
>>> Hello everybody
>>> I'd like to learn ho to use ajax
>>> I havo problem in php and html
>>> I have more problem in javascripts
>>> which framework would you advise to start working in ajax?
>>> jquery?
>>> prototype? other framworks?
>>> thanks
>> Why ask javascript questions in a PHP newsgroup? Try comp.lang.javascript.
>>
>
> that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
> morons, and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
> patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
> javascript group to try.
Maybe they're right.
And if there is a better javascript newsgroup, I haven't found it. Most
of the guys there are pretty knowledgeable, even if you have to put up
with a couple of trolls.
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Jerry Stuckle
You'll find lots of reasons in an appropriate newsgroup. This is not it.
rf
>? 2010/6/3 14:32, rf ??:
Off topic, but jQuery is an over-bloated peice of crap.
Ajax can be done quite well with about fifteen lines of well crafted
javascript. No need for any "library".
Further information can be found in the javascript newsgroups;
"Álvaro G. Vicario"
>> Why ask javascript questions in a PHP newsgroup? Try comp.lang.javascript.
> While that's nominally the correct group, they'll invariably tell him
> that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
> morons, and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
> patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
> javascript group to try.
Ha ha, you know the place :)
I've found that StackOverflow.com is a nice forum to ask JavaScript
questions. There're quite knowledgeable regulars and they don't
invariantly answer "go ask somewhere else" as in most Usenet groups.
It's worth a try-out.
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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Sirius Black wrote:
>> > Hello everybody
>> > I'd like to learn ho to use ajax
>> > I havo problem in php and html
>> > I have more problem in javascripts
>>
>> > which framework would you advise to start working in ajax?
>> > jquery?
>> > prototype? other framworks?
>> >
>> > thanks
>>
>> Why ask javascript questions in a PHP newsgroup? Try
>> comp.lang.javascript.
>> [...]
>
> While that's nominally the correct group, they'll invariably tell him
> that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
> morons and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
> patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
> javascript group to try.
You are either delusional or a troll. Nobody there has ever talked like
that.
In any case, would you rather have people hiding their own cluelessness,
openly lying to you and playing guessing games, so that you can have a warm,
cosy feeling while in fact falling right off the cliff with the other
lemmings in the hype? Or would you prefer sound technical advice that is in
most cases based upon years of software development experience instead?
If the former, go to script library user support forums like
http://forum.jquery.com/; if the latter, go to comp.lang.javascript.
F'up2 PointedEars
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who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
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Sirius Black
>> Why would you want it to be PHP-centric?
> I would have thought the answer to that would be obvious.
> So that one can give an on-topic answer to the question in a ph
> newsgroup!
>
>> Oh - and I don't use any framework at all. By the time you've discovered
>> how one works, you can write your own.
> Well you could say that about most things, including php's plethora
> of array functions.
ok, thank you everybody and sorry for this OT (I thought it was a
related subjet, but you proved me wrong)
thank you anyway
Gordon
wrote:
>
> You are either delusional or a troll. Nobody there has ever talked like
> that.
Just looked at the group this morning. The thread at the top of the
list is one discussing why every javascript framework sucks.
> In any case, would you rather have people hiding their own cluelessness,
> openly lying to you and playing guessing games, so that you can have a warm,
> cosy feeling while in fact falling right off the cliff with the other
> lemmings in the hype? Or would you prefer sound technical advice that is in
> most cases based upon years of software development experience instead?
I'd rather have somebody be helpful without being a jerk. The two
aren't mutually exclusive.
Gregor Kofler
> On Jun 3, 9:57 pm, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn<PointedE...@web.de>
> wrote:
>>
>> You are either delusional or a troll. Nobody there has ever talked like
>> that.
>
> Just looked at the group this morning. The thread at the top of the
> list is one discussing why every javascript framework sucks.
You are right. There should be no need to discuss axioms.
Gregor
Peter H. Coffin
> While that's nominally the correct group, they'll invariably tell him
> that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
> morons, and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
> patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
> javascript group to try.
Even though, 85% of the time, they'd be correct about the frameworks
sucking?
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Tim Roberts
>Gordon wrote:
>
>> While that's nominally the correct group, they'll invariably tell him
>> that all frameworks and libraries suck, that their authors are all
>> morons and that all users of said libraries are escaped mental
>> patients. They're an odd log in CLJS. There's probably a better
>> javascript group to try.
>
>You are either delusional or a troll. Nobody there has ever talked like
>that.
It is fascinating that you would assert this, when your signature at the
end of the very same post said:
>Prototype.js was written by people who don't know javascript for people
>who don't know javascript. People who don't know javascript are not
>the best source of advice on designing systems that use javascript.
> -- Richard Cornford, cljs, <f806at$ail$1$8300...@news.demon.co.uk>
QED, in my view.
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Marious Barrier
Learn HTML and Javascript. Depending on your ease for learning... it
might take a couple of days.
Hans Wassink (Canners.nl)
Ill add my 50 cents... If you get to understand the mechanics of Ajax
you really don't need a framework. But jQuery really makes your life
easier (Or harder when you just start using it).