Sage II/Sage IV/Stride UCSD p-system computer
Jim Battle
that ran UCSD IV.1 p-System pascal as its primary OS (a multiuser
version at that). My impression is that it was a sturdy and
professional little system.
First I share.
There isn't a lot of information about it on the web, so I started a
web page for it. If you want to read more about this machine, visit my
page:
http://www.thebattles.net/sage/sage.html
And now I beg.
My particular machine works, but my boot disk doesn't have all the
standard system utilities so I can't, for example, change the terminal
codes for proper screen operation, making editing particularly hard.
If you have any documents (originals, copies, scans), boot disks or
boot disk images, or even an actual machine you could part with, please
contact me and let's make a deal so I can grow the page.
Once I have enough to get my machine going, I hope to get a few of my
programs from that same era up and running on it.
ano...@netscape.net
Jim Battle wrote:
> I recently obtained a Sage II computer. It was a 1982 68000 CPU system
> that ran UCSD IV.1 p-System pascal as its primary OS (a multiuser
> version at that). My impression is that it was a sturdy and
> professional little system.
>
Cool... You can try here:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UCSDPascal/>
I run, on occasion, a UCSD IV.0 p-system on my TI-99/4A.
A lot more cramped than the Sage you have, having the p-system on a
card with some tables in RAM leaving two code pool areas, 12k in the
video ram and 20k in CPU ram.
Chris Burrows
news:1122517107.7...@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>I recently obtained a Sage II computer. It was a 1982 68000 CPU system
> that ran UCSD IV.1 p-System pascal as its primary OS (a multiuser
> version at that). My impression is that it was a sturdy and
> professional little system.
>
The Sage II / IV was a great system. I did have a full set of manuals and
system disks with the computer (and a spreadsheet program from Timberline
software that they used to ship with it) - including a full listing of the
bios in 68000 assembler. Unfortunately for you, I donated the whole lot to
Sydney University Computer Museum many years ago. As far as I know it is
gathering dust in a warehouse somewhere.
However, I do remember a few names closely associated with the system that
may help you track something down. Bill Bonham wrote the system software,
Jerry Pournelle of Byte magazine used to rave on about it, Volition Systems
(Roger Sumner and Richard Gleaves of UCSD Pascal fame) wrote a Modula-2
compiler for it. Jon Bondy of JLB Enterprises sold system software for it.
Also Brian Kirk or Robinson Systems in the UK was involved in the
development of an OS called MOSYS for the Sage. The last version of the UCSD
P-System that I used on it was from Pecan Systems who, AFAIK, had bought
out Volition Systems.
--
Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com/gpcp
Martin Liddle
Battle <fru...@pacbell.net> writes
>I recently obtained a Sage II computer. It was a 1982 68000 CPU system
>that ran UCSD IV.1 p-System pascal as its primary OS (a multiuser
>version at that). My impression is that it was a sturdy and
>professional little system.
>
>
>standard system utilities so I can't, for example, change the terminal
>codes for proper screen operation, making editing particularly hard.
>
own 68000 based system using UCSD p-system which we used internally and
sold in very limited numbers . I will probably have a complete set of
p-system IV.1 files somewhere if you can't find what you want elsewhere.
--
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Martin Liddle, Tynemouth Computer Services, 3 Kentmere Way,
Staveley, Chesterfield, Derbyshire, S43 3TW.
Web site: <http://www.tynecomp.co.uk>.
Stuart Bell
Hi!
A belated follow-up. I just acquired a Sage IV on eBay which looks to
have everything with it, so if you're still short of a full boot disc, I
should be able to help in the near future.
I used the p-system on North Star Horizons and Apple ][s in the 1980s,
and helped port it to a home-brew Z80 machine, as well as an Amstrad
CPC-128 (?).
Hope to use old Macs from the 1980s with terminal emulators as terminals
to the Sage, eventually! In fact, the biggest 'issue' with the Sage will
probably be getting a working serial cable - 20 years ago I could
remember RS-232 pinouts, but it's all gone now!
Stuart
--
Try stuartsmacs at dsl dot pipex dot com to email me.
ano...@netscape.net
Stuart Bell wrote:
<snip>
> Hope to use old Macs from the 1980s with terminal emulators as terminals
> to the Sage, eventually! In fact, the biggest 'issue' with the Sage will
> probably be getting a working serial cable - 20 years ago I could
> remember RS-232 pinouts, but it's all gone now!
>
Cool! I used to do that with my PC as a terminal running UCSD Pascal on
my TI-99/4A!
Nice having the 80-column screen (the TI is 80-columns windowed over a
40 column screen).
I once wanted to hook it all up so the outside world could dial-in and
use the UCSD system on my machine...
Jim Battle
Stuart Bell wrote:
...
> Hi!
>
> A belated follow-up. I just acquired a Sage IV on eBay which looks to
> have everything with it, so if you're still short of a full boot disc, I
> should be able to help in the near future.
Ah, so you were the winner of that machine. I was the first bidder but
I never came back for a higher bid as the price got ahead of what I'm
willing to pay (plus shipping to the US would have hurt).
Anyway, I was able to get boot disk images for my sage II, and I put
them up on my little sage web page. The disk images came from a fellow
sage enthusiast, David Erhart. Still, I don't know if the sage IV had
different boot disks or not; making images of any disks you have would
be nice to archive.
My web page, including boot disks and scans of some manuals:
http://www.thebattles.net/sage/sage.html
David Erhart's site:
http://www.sageandstride.org/
Stuart Bell
> Ah, so you were the winner of that machine. I was the first bidder but
> I never came back for a higher bid as the price got ahead of what I'm
> willing to pay (plus shipping to the US would have hurt).
Indeed. I was surprised to get it for £103 ($180), given its rarity, but
perhaps too few people know about them
>
> Anyway, I was able to get boot disk images for my sage II, and I put
> them up on my little sage web page. The disk images came from a fellow
> sage enthusiast, David Erhart. Still, I don't know if the sage IV had
> different boot disks or not; making images of any disks you have would
> be nice to archive.
I will make images available as soon as I've worked out how to do it! If
anyone has solved that issue for somone using a Mac, then please let me
know!
>
> My web page, including boot disks and scans of some manuals:
> http://www.thebattles.net/sage/sage.html
>
> David Erhart's site:
> http://www.sageandstride.org/
Thanks; I'd already found both sites; Googling for 'Sage Pascal Stride'
is never likely to provide information overload, once you eliminate
Blaise Pascal, the sage who took opposition in his stride!