I think it's most simple and elegant, possibly beating the Kinesis or
Microsoft 4000.
http://www.trulyergonomic.com/index.html
for gallery and my analysis, see:
Fancy Ergonomic Keyboards Gallery
http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_keyboards.html
Xah
> • 〈discovered a new ergonomic keyboard.
Who needs this?
This keyboard is one of the millions of superfluous cheap products
beeing produced to be sold expensive. However, if this is the only
reason for existence there are no limits in any creativity. Make some
spoilers on them. And direction indicators. And make it pink for
getting more girls onto a computer.
T.M.
What a piece of superfluous shit! NO ONE needs this shit.
regards
Marc
On Nov 23, 1:52 am, Torsten Mueller <dev-n...@shared-files.de> wrote:
> Who needs this?
>
> This keyboard is one of the millions of superfluous cheap products
> beeing produced to be sold expensive. However, if this is the only
> reason for existence there are no limits in any creativity. Make some
> spoilers on them. And direction indicators. And make it pink for
> getting more girls onto a computer.
>
> T.M.
i'm sorry to say, but when i read almost anything by programers about
keyboarding, keybinding, in the past 10 years, 99% of them are purely
idiotic to the extreme. I used harsh terms because the more i studied
keyboard and all related issues, the more i see how extremely idiotic
these opinions are.
Here's some examples:
• best way to avoid rsi is never to learn touch type. (expressed by
Stephan Monnier (emacs maintainer), as well as keyboard maestro's
author.)
• the swapping of Caps Lock and Ctrl on a normal standard keyboard is
good idea. Expressed by many.
• emacs's keybinding is efficient.
for 70 articles on Keyboards, Layouts, Hotkeys, Macros, RSI, typing
habits, see:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/keyboarding.html
Xah
was quickly written, but forgot some more points. More examples with
my answers:
• best way to avoid rsi is never to learn touch type. (expressed by
Stephan Monnier (emacs maintainer), as well as keyboard maestro's
author.)
the opinion by Stephan can be seen on comp.emacs sometimes in 2010 i
think.
the one expressed by keyboard maestro's author Peter N Lewis is at
http://xahlee.blogspot.com/2010/08/left-wrist-motion-pain-vi-esc-syndrome.html
and this opinion can sometimes be seen elsewhere on forums.
• the swapping of Caps Lock and Ctrl on a normal standard keyboard is
good idea. Expressed by many.
See 〈Why You Should Not Swap Caps Lock With Control〉
http://xahlee.org/emacs/swap_CapsLock_Ctrl.html
• emacs's keybinding is efficient.
See: 〈Why Emacs's Keyboard Shortcuts Are Painful〉
http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs_kb_shortcuts_pain.html
• Happy Hacker keyboard is a fantastic keyboard. (expressed by many,
in particular Shawn Sabbets, author of ratpoison (a Linux tool that
arranges all your windows without gaps))
See 〈The Idiocy of Hacker Keyboards〉 http://xahlee.org/emacs/keyboards_hacker_idiocy.html
• «I'm a programer. I never use the F1 F2 etc keys, and find those
Media keys or extra app launching keys stupid.» This is seen often on
programer forums or keyboard review sites such as amazon.
for 70 articles on Keyboards, Layouts, Hotkeys, Macros, RSI, typing
habits, see:
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/keyboarding.html
PS i think Stephen, Peter, Shawn are great coders, but just that some
of their opinions on keyboard i find falling into common myth.
programer will be recalcitrant on their opinions about keyboard,
because they'd say “i use it all my life!”. Yet, typically they never
spend a hour to look into the actual field of keyboarding issues or
field of study of ergonomics.
This situation is similar to for example pro mathematicians will
admadantly claim some math notation issues, or love of TeX/LaTeX,
like, “i should know because i work with it all my life”, yet their
opinion being completely idiotic.
also similar, is lots of programers, who, over the years in their
career, inevitably came to know several langs. So, they'll have bunch
of extremely idiotic opinions on language design, syntax, and software
engineering, terminologies, semantics. They'll be loud about it. Yet,
they really don't know much of any of these fields as a dedicated
study. e.g. they have never taken a day in their lifes, to actually
study a article, or issue, about a syntax design as a subject by
itself. Typically, what they've done instead, is like: «perl is like
this, or lisp is like this, or i know Haskell this and OCaml that way,
i've coded in them for 10 years, and i've taken a class about parsing
in college, therefore, it should be X, i tell you!».
I LOL
Xah
> > This keyboard is one of the millions of superfluous cheap products
> > beeing produced to be sold expensive.
>
> i'm sorry to say, but when i read almost anything by programers
> about keyboarding, keybinding, in the past 10 years, 99% of them are
> purely idiotic to the extreme. I used harsh terms because the more i
> studied keyboard and all related issues, the more i see how
> extremely idiotic these opinions are.
Yes, but what has your answer to do with my statement? Exactly
nothing.
This keyboard you made promotion for _is_ just idiotic itself, as well
as Microsoft's "Natural Ergonomic Keyboard [1]" was. These things are
no progress, they are indeed not even developped to reach any
ergonomic goal or something. The one and only reason why they exist is
making money with simple minded people believing in geeky lifestyle
gadgets. And an important result of the last 20 years is the fact that
big companies did indeed manage to _breed_ those people in a large
number ... (This is one of the great secrets behind Apple's success.)
The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
development was only made for commercial reasons.
T.M.
[1] nothing but a lie
> The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
> Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
> development was only made for commercial reasons.
I don't have an opinion on the ergonomicity question (I'm lucky that I
don't get any significant RSI-type things, even though I use mostly
keyboards which are obviously really nasty[*]), but some of those old
IBM keyboards were indeed lovely I think. Older Sun (type 3 and
before) were nice as well. For a long time I used to want to get one
ad make some little 80xx-based converter to drive USB. I've given up
now as I realise I'll never own a computer which isn't a laptop again.
--tim
[*] I think my approach of typing by hammering the keyboard with my
fists & forehead until the right things come out may help with the RSI.
It's a pain getting the bloodstains off though, and getting broken-off
parts of keys embedded in your skull is an occupational hazard.
> On 2010-11-24 08:12:02 +0000, Torsten Mueller said:
>
>> The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
>> Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
>> development was only made for commercial reasons.
>
> I don't have an opinion on the ergonomicity question (I'm lucky that I
> don't get any significant RSI-type things, even though I use mostly
> keyboards which are obviously really nasty[*]), but some of those old
> IBM keyboards were indeed lovely I think. Older Sun (type 3 and
> before) were nice as well. For a long time I used to want to get one
> ad make some little 80xx-based converter to drive USB. I've given up
> now as I realise I'll never own a computer which isn't a laptop again.
Since laptops are used 99% of the time on a desk, why not hook a
separate keyboard to use them?
> [*] I think my approach of typing by hammering the keyboard with my
> fists & forehead until the right things come out may help with the
> RSI. It's a pain getting the bloodstains off though, and getting
> broken-off parts of keys embedded in your skull is an occupational
> hazard.
Anything that gives results for you...
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
A bad day in () is better than a good day in {}.
> Since laptops are used 99% of the time on a desk, why not hook a
> separate keyboard to use them?
Desk space, having to carry more (or have many keyboards). But yes.
This is by no means a cheap product: "The Truly Ergonomic Keyboard is
manufactured using high-quality Cherry MX Mechanical Keyswitches, the
highest quality keyswitches available on any computer keyboard." Now,
we can argue about the Cherry MX switches being the best ones
available, but we can't argue about them being high quality.
> On 2010-11-24 08:12:02 +0000, Torsten Mueller said:
>
>> The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
>> Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
>> development was only made for commercial reasons.
>
> I don't have an opinion on the ergonomicity question (I'm lucky that I
> don't get any significant RSI-type things, even though I use mostly
> keyboards which are obviously really nasty[*]), but some of those old
> IBM keyboards were indeed lovely I think. Older Sun (type 3 and
> before) were nice as well. For a long time I used to want to get one
> ad make some little 80xx-based converter to drive USB. I've given up
> now as I realise I'll never own a computer which isn't a laptop again.
If you mean the (clicky) Model M keyboards, then the heir to
these is available from Unicomp, with an option for USB.
The "Customizer 105"[1] with a USB connection is only $69, which
makes it an absolute steal compared to any of the keyboards supplied
with desktops from Dell, Hp, &c.
I have four of these, with one permanently connected to my Mac
Pro.
Footnotes:
[1] http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html
>> > This keyboard is one of the millions of superfluous cheap products
>> > beeing produced to be sold expensive.
>> i'm sorry to say, but when i read almost anything by programers
>> about keyboarding, keybinding, in the past 10 years, 99% of them are
>> purely idiotic to the extreme. I used harsh terms because the more i
>> studied keyboard and all related issues, the more i see how
>> extremely idiotic these opinions are.
> Yes, but what has your answer to do with my statement? Exactly
> nothing.
> This keyboard you made promotion for _is_ just idiotic itself, as well
> as Microsoft's "Natural Ergonomic Keyboard [1]" was. These things are
> no progress, they are indeed not even developped to reach any
> ergonomic goal or something. The one and only reason why they exist is
> making money with simple minded people believing in geeky lifestyle
> gadgets. And an important result of the last 20 years is the fact that
> big companies did indeed manage to _breed_ those people in a large
> number ... (This is one of the great secrets behind Apple's success.)
Have you actually tried any of these "ergonomic" keyboards? Have you
ever suffered RSI from typing on a standard keyboard? If your answers to
these questions are "no" (as mine are), you're not in a position to pass
such comments.
> The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
> Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
> development was only made for commercial reasons.
What's so great about late 1980s IBM keyboards?
> T.M.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
Torsten, the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard is the best keyboard ever
and you're an idiot if you think otherwise. You should have to use
the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard.
> Now, we can argue about the Cherry MX switches being the best ones
> available, but we can't argue about them being high quality.
Many years ago I had "Cherry" in mind as a name, as a notion of
quality and stability. A year ago I bought a Cherry mouse quite
because of this idea. But what I got was nothing but a letdown. This
thing was really cheap plastic and did indeed not even work safely.
You had to held this mouse in a specific way, otherwise you blocked
the mouse keys with your fingers from coming up again after pressing.
But I payed about 60 US $ for this - I call this expensive for a
simple mouse with two buttons. I really changed my opinion about
Cherry products because of this damned plastic thing.
T.M.
> Have you actually tried any of these "ergonomic" keyboards? Have you
> ever suffered RSI from typing on a standard keyboard?
Long ago, when Microsoft pushed their first broken varieties. My
company bought some to try. But after some weeks they disappeared all
in a locker and have never been seen again.
I have the habit to use the Ctrl and Shift keys only on the left side.
I never use the right ones. On every keyboard I can cultivate this
quirk of mine. These broken keyboards hinder me in doing that. They
force me to use keys I normally never use. Especially in the middle
(keys t, z (y), g, h, b, n) I get really in conflict what Ctrl or
Shift key to use just because some clever people on the west coast
think they could improve my more than 20 years old typing ergonomics
by splitting the keyboard in two parts.
> What's so great about late 1980s IBM keyboards?
They were made from metal. This gave them a heavy weight and a very
solid stableness on the table. They had keys with a built-in
mechanical click. This click was not only hearable but also feelable
while pressing a key, a remarkable, very precise pressure point you
learn to value. Other manufacturers tried to imitate this pressure
point but used more softer ones which is indeed not comparable. I know
people using very old IBM keyboards still today, bought on eBay. And
these things have not a single broken key. So they seem to be
undestructable.
T.M.
> Torsten, the Microsoft Ergonomic Keyboard is the best keyboard ever
> and you're an idiot if you think otherwise.
Sure.
BTW: A great idea of different thinking people! Kill them all!
T.M.
>> What's so great about late 1980s IBM keyboards?
>
> They were made from metal. This gave them a heavy weight and a very
> solid stableness on the table. They had keys with a built-in
> mechanical click. This click was not only hearable but also feelable
> while pressing a key, a remarkable, very precise pressure point you
> learn to value. Other manufacturers tried to imitate this pressure
> point but used more softer ones which is indeed not comparable. I know
> people using very old IBM keyboards still today, bought on eBay. And
> these things have not a single broken key. So they seem to be
> undestructable.
Which is exactly the reason why nobody produces them.
Sure, they are still produced!
http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/keyboards.html
The best keyboard ever! I use the original IBM at work since years each
day! Nothing can compare with the true IBM Model M (or Unicomp "clones")!
regards
Marc
Precisely.
I heavily use keyboards 12-16 hours/day and would wear out Dell
Quietkey, HP/Compaq and other keyboards within 3 months. I have
been typing since the early 1950s (IBM electric typewriter) and
have absolutely NO RSI or other problems due to my proper posture
and arm/hand position while at a/the keyboard.
The Unicomp keyboards are fantastic; I have the SpaceSaver which
is working fine now for over two years in this setup:
<http://thadlabs.com/PIX/Thad_desk.jpg>
The specific keyboard I'm using is:
<http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/en104bl.html>
I wonder if those with problems and refusing to acknowledge the
wisdom of a [CTRL] key to the left of [A] have some physical
abnormality such as tiny or dainty hands and/or short fingers?
I can think of no other reason since I have large hands.
> I wonder if those with problems and refusing to acknowledge the
> wisdom of a [CTRL] key to the left of [A] have some physical
> abnormality such as tiny or dainty hands and/or short fingers?
> I can think of no other reason since I have large hands.
I suspect that RSI is related to other things than just typing, such as
stress. Note I'm *not* saying it is not real, just that the cause may
not be just keyboards. Certainly stress has made me serously
physically unwell at some points, so I don't see why it should not hurt
your hands as well.
I don't think it is hand-size - my hands aren't very large, I use
control to the right of A on mostly crap keyboards, and have some
arthritic/degenerative changes to my right hand following skiing injury
("hillend thumb", acquired at Hillend even), but I get no RSI currently.
> Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de> wrote:
> > What's so great about late 1980s IBM keyboards?
>
> They were made from metal. This gave them a heavy weight and a very
> solid stableness on the table. They had keys with a built-in
> mechanical click. This click was not only hearable but also feelable
> while pressing a key, a remarkable, very precise pressure point you
> learn to value. Other manufacturers tried to imitate this pressure
> point but used more softer ones which is indeed not comparable.
Other keyboards generally use a different mechanism which simulates the
pressure point -- but /slightly/ inaccurately, so sometimes you can feel
the key go, but it hasn't actually registered. The model M
buckled-spring mechanism, as far as I can tell, goes `click' exactly as
the keypress is registered, every time, without fail.
I have four model M keyboards, acquired from various people and bought
off Ebay, of slightly different vintages. I value them for their
stability, robustness and typing feel. I also value them because they
have a nice wide space bar, and no extra weird keys between the Alt and
Ctrl keys in the bottom row. Model M keyboards also have separate
detachable keycaps which makes cleaning the thing slightly less of a
nightmare.
They are noisy, which I find somewhat irritating, actually. And the
little legs on the bottom for holding the keyboard at an angle are a bit
brittle -- by which I mean that one of them is broken; because the rest
of the keyboard seems completely indestructible.
It seems that my tastes in input devices is generally out of date. My
preferred mouse is the Logitech MouseMan 95 (the triangular one with
three actual buttons): I have an original, and a few Compaq rebadged
mice, again from Ebay. These last are actually recent enough to have
colour-coded plugs. And I still insist on using CRT monitors, too.
Of course, back in those days, IBM PCs didn't come with a keyboard --
and the model M was very expensive. Nowadays people expect a keyboard
to be bundled with the computer, or at least to buy a keyboard for less
than $20 or so -- and they get what they pay for. Sigh.
-- [mdw]
Cherry manufactures both cheap and high-end products. Their MX
switches are prized by many keyboard enthusiasts.
> The summit of keyboard development was reached by IBM in the late 80s.
> Yes, that's 20 years ago. After this point in history _every_ further
> development was only made for commercial reasons.
The IBM keyboards on early PCs were certainly good but years before that
IBM sold the IBM 3279 color graphics terminal.
I used a bunch of IBM 3270 type terminals but the 3279 stood out. At
least as good as the Model M if not better.
I don't remember the exact year but at least the early 80s.
This keyboard you made promotion for _is_ just idiotic itself, as well
as the late 80s IBM keyboards was. These late 80s IBM keyboards are
no progress, they are indeed not even developped to reach any
ergonomic goal or something. The one and only reason why they exist is
making money with simple minded people believing in geeky lifestyle
gadgets. And an important result of the late 80s and the use of late
80s IBM keyboards is the fact that
the use of late 80s IBM keyboards indeed manage to _breed_ those
people in a large
number ... (This is one of the great secrets behind Sun's success.)
The summit of keyboard development was reached by Microsoft ergonomic
keyboards
Yes, that's recently. Before this point in history _every_ late 80s
IBM keyboards was made for only commercial reasons.
> (This is one of the great secrets behind Sun's success.)
Didn't work out too well, did it.
It worked out great until their developers started using late 80s IBM
keyboards. Sun would have been more successful if they had used
Microsoft ergonomic keyboards and used Elisp instead of Java.
It worked out great until their developers started using late 80s IBM
> This keyboard you made promotion for _is_ just idiotic itself,
Yes, sure, if you say it.
Today we have the situation that many products are sold for so much
money that the customers can't remain independent in their opinions
anymore. Especially they lose the possibility to confess an error.
This is a clever trick of modern markets. In German there's a well
known saying: What doesn't cost anything is of no value, too. But much
more important is the reversal: What's expensive can't be bad anymore.
(This is indeed a serious problem in political economy.) Today it
stands on ones head: the price defines the value, not the other way
round. So, if you buy crap for much money you can't go back without
losing your face, you must defend it, you must concur with others who
also bought this crap and must defend it, and even better: you have no
choice anymore, you must go forward and buy more compatible crap for
still more money ... - Yes, this hurts. And yes, people telling you
that hurt, too. Today even idiocy has a high price.
T.M.
BTW: Improving keyboards is as old as keyboards are. Read this
interesting article:
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2010/10/hansens-writing-ball-other-unusual.html
But ask yourself why none of this inventions has been generally
accepted.
It sounds like you're bitter that you're stuck with the keyboard that
came with your Dell dude. If you had a nice shiny Microsoft Ergonomic
keyboard you'd probably have a happier life, and definitely much more
success with the women. Women hate late 80s IBM keyboards...all that
clickety-click drives them mad.
> It sounds like you're bitter that you're stuck with the keyboard that
> came with your Dell dude. If you had a nice shiny Microsoft Ergonomic
> keyboard you'd probably have a happier life, and definitely much more
> success with the women. Women hate late 80s IBM keyboards...all that
> clickety-click drives them mad.
Actually, you probably need some kind of German camera, they're the
best for attracting women. Or maybe an iPad will do it.
> clickety-click drives them mad.
Nope, you are a tiny bit mis-informed, they where allready used to the
clang-bang of any typewriter, so no cigar here.
Women hated model M for it played havoc with polished nails, as
the cardpunchconsole did too.
We can't have that now, can we ...
Cor
--
Geavanceerde politieke correctheid is niet te onderscheiden van sarcasme
SPAM DELENDA EST http://www.spammesenseless.nl
(defvar My-Computer '((OS . "GNU/Emacs") (IPL . "GNU/Linux")))
this might be to your interest:
• 〈Alfred Lawson; the University of Lawsonomy〉
http://xahlee.org/Periodic_dosage_dir/lawsonomy.html
--------------------------------------------------
Alfred Lawson; the University of Lawsonomy
Xah Lee, 2010-06-14
Alfred Lawson (1869-1954), another cult, theory of everything guy.
Quote:
In the 1920s, he promoted health practices including vegetarianism
and claimed to have found the secret of living to 200. He also
developed his own highly unusual theories of physics, according to
which such concepts as "penetrability", "suction and pressure" and
"zig-zag-and-swirl" were discoveries on par with Einstein's Theory of
Relativity.[3] He published numerous books on these concepts, all set
in a distinctive typography. Lawson repeatedly predicted the worldwide
adoption of Lawsonian principles by the year 2000.
He later propounded his own philosophy—Lawsonomy—and the Lawsonian
religion. He also developed, during the Great Depression, the populist
economic theory of "Direct Credits", according to which banks are the
cause of all economic woe, the oppressors of both capital and labour.
Lawson believed that the government should replace banks as the
provider of loans to business and workers. His rallies and lectures
attracted thousands of listeners in the early 30s, mainly in the upper
Midwest, but by the late 30s the crowds had dwindled.
In 1943, he founded the unaccredited University of Lawsonomy in
Des Moines to spread his teachings and offer the degree of
"Knowledgian," but after various IRS and other investigations it was
closed and finally sold in 1954, the year of Lawson's death. Lawson's
financial arrangements remain mysterious to this day, and in later
years he seems to have owned little property, moving from city to city
as a guest of his farflung acolytes. A 1952 attempt to haul him before
a Senate investigative committee and get to the bottom of his
operation ended with the old man leaving the senators baffled and
unimpressed.[4]
David Icke
2010-04-09
Discovered another crackpot. David Icke this guy claimed he's son of
God, claimed that earth are ruled by lizard-like alien and human
hybrids, etc. Wrote and sell several books, with big site peddling his
shit, going around the world giving lectures.
There are quite a few people that i've read who claimed to be son of
God, or brother of Jesus. One most diastrous one, is 洪秀全 (Hong
Xiuquan), which eventually became Taiping Rebellion, with 20 million
deaths. (for one of his poem and links to Wikipedia articles, see: 斬邪留正
詩 (Kill the Vicious and Keep the Righteous poem)).
Unification Church (Moonies)
2010-04-14
Discovered another cult the Unification church, started by Sun Myung
Moon (b1920). Apparently another juggernaut, with heavy government
ties and runs many and diverse business across the globe. Also, it
practices sexual rituals.
Moon has said, and it is believed by many Unification Church
members, that he is the Messiah and the Second Coming of Christ and is
fulfilling Jesus' unfinished mission.
Dalai Lama, Falun Gong
Other cult leader is of course the Dalai Lama. Who, supposedly is the
reincarnation of the previous Lama. (Lama's role in the cult is
similar to Pope in Catholic cult.) The Dalai Lama is used by US to do
power struggle with China. See: Li Ao on Tibet and Dalai Lama.
Other modern, powerful deceiver that do huge damage to human animal
society, includes the Scientology, Falun Gong. See: Scientology and
Falun Gong.
* Has Religion Made Useful Contributions to Civilization?
(Bertrand Russell)
* Li Ao on Tibet and Dalai Lama
* Larry Wall and Cults
Xah
for those of you interested in keyboard switch mechanisms, this is a
good site:
〈Mechanical Keyboard Guide〉 (2009-04) By Manyak.
http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html
note that the famous IBM Model M keyboard's key switch mechanism is
buckling spring. Which, i happened to have owned and used in 1990.
However, according to keyboard forum messages, it seems Cherry
mechanism is actually better today, though personally i'm not sure
i've used.
Also note, that the Kinesis Contoured, “Truly ergonomic keyboard”,
Das, all uses one of the Cherry mechanism.
Also note, the Cherry mechanism is not favored by same gamers, because
for quick repeated activation of a key, as often needed in gaming, the
rubber dome mechanism is better at that.
the frequently cited Unicomp that makes modern version of IBM Model
M,... am not sure it uses the original buckling spring or one of the
Cherry variation... but you can find out at the link here, including a
interview, near the bottom:
• 〈The Idiocy of Hacker Keyboards〉
http://xahlee.org/emacs/keyboards_hacker_idiocy.html
Xah
> I wonder if those with problems and refusing to acknowledge the
> wisdom of a [CTRL] key to the left of [A] have some physical
> abnormality such as tiny or dainty hands and/or short fingers?
> I can think of no other reason since I have large hands.
I think the reason is as follows:
Axiom 1: Microsoft doesn't do it that way.
Axiom 2: Microsoft is always right, everywhere, every time.
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Conclusion: Ctrl to the left of A is bad.
Also, I suppose also people who like to write in only capitals
probably need the caps lock key in a handy position. :-)
Cheers.
Jim