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ilias

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Sep 12, 2002, 7:31:20 AM9/12/02
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The Scary Readtable #V0.5 is out.
3D7BFA52...@pontos.net
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3D7BFA52...@pontos.net

and *maybe* this became true:

*Xanalys LispWorks is the incorrect implementation*

:::short-form of claim:
(set-syntax-from-char #\] #\) ) ; => T
(set-syntax-from-char #\[ #\( ) ; => T
[+ 3 2] ;ncs => 5

On Windows:

Franz Allegro : does *not* execute the line [+ 3 2].
Xalanys Lispworks: executes the line [+ 3 2].

Implementation-specific behaviour?

Look at the lines again:

(set-syntax-from-char #\] #\) ) ; => T
(set-syntax-from-char #\[ #\( ) ; => T

Essential core functionality.

There is no tolerance.

C.l.l. don't cares?

The vendors don't care?

Or is there a 'secret agreement'?

Don't fight about syntax and standard-implementations.

I don't know.

I know that one implementation is not conforming.

If you think that Franz Allegro does the right thing,

then there is only one conclusion:

*Xanalys LispWorks is the incorrect implementation*

Tim Bradshaw

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Sep 12, 2002, 8:29:47 AM9/12/02
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* Espen Vestre wrote:

> Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course! The standard is
> deliberately unclear in order to confuse bastards who want to pollute
> the dearest part our beloved syntax, to make them either give up and
> join the club, or go back to the curly place they come from.

It's still a secret. The black helicopters have already been
dispatched, and the usenet neuralizer is about to be deployed.

Please watch the screen closely and do not turn your computer off.

--tim

Espen Vestre

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Sep 12, 2002, 8:21:08 AM9/12/02
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ilias <at_...@pontos.net> writes:

> The vendors don't care?
>
> Or is there a 'secret agreement'?

Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course! The standard is


deliberately unclear in order to confuse bastards who want to pollute
the dearest part our beloved syntax, to make them either give up and
join the club, or go back to the curly place they come from.

--
(espen)

Marco Antoniotti

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Sep 12, 2002, 1:59:41 PM9/12/02
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Tim Bradshaw <t...@cley.com> writes:

> * Espen Vestre wrote:
>
> > Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course! The standard is
> > deliberately unclear in order to confuse bastards who want to pollute
> > the dearest part our beloved syntax, to make them either give up and
> > join the club, or go back to the curly place they come from.
>
> It's still a secret. The black helicopters have already been
> dispatched, and the usenet neuralizer is about to be deployed.

What is a neuralizer? :)

>
> Please watch the screen closely and do not turn your computer off.
>

Am I wantching a screen? :)

Cheers

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Rob Warnock

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Sep 13, 2002, 2:19:22 AM9/13/02
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Marco Antoniotti <mar...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
+---------------

| Tim Bradshaw <t...@cley.com> writes:
| > * Espen Vestre wrote:
| > > Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course!
| >
| > It's still a secret. The black helicopters have already been
| > dispatched, and the usenet neuralizer is about to be deployed.
|
| What is a neuralizer? :)
+---------------

Use the Web, Luke!!

Oh, o.k., if you insist. It's the gadget Tommy Lee Jones is
holding up in this picture:

<URL:http://www.splicedonline.com/97reviews/mib.html>


-Rob

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Joe Marshall

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Sep 13, 2002, 6:49:30 AM9/13/02
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"Rob Warnock" <rp...@rpw3.org> wrote in message news:uo30rai...@corp.supernews.com...

> Marco Antoniotti <mar...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
> +---------------
> | Tim Bradshaw <t...@cley.com> writes:
> | > * Espen Vestre wrote:
> | > > Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course!
> | >
> | > It's still a secret. The black helicopters have already been
> | > dispatched, and the usenet neuralizer is about to be deployed.
> |
> | What is a neuralizer? :)
> +---------------
>
> Use the Web, Luke!!
>
> Oh, o.k., if you insist. It's the gadget Tommy Lee Jones is
> holding up in this picture:
>
> <URL:http://www.splicedonline.com/97reviews/mib.html>
>

There's an animated GIF of it at ... um ... somewhere...
what were we talking about?

Marco Antoniotti

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:42:57 AM9/13/02
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rp...@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) writes:

> Marco Antoniotti <mar...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:
> +---------------
> | Tim Bradshaw <t...@cley.com> writes:
> | > * Espen Vestre wrote:
> | > > Ok, now that's it no secret anymore: Of course!
> | >
> | > It's still a secret. The black helicopters have already been
> | > dispatched, and the usenet neuralizer is about to be deployed.
> |
> | What is a neuralizer? :)
> +---------------
>
> Use the Web, Luke!!
>
> Oh, o.k., if you insist. It's the gadget Tommy Lee Jones is
> holding up in this picture:
>
> <URL:http://www.splicedonline.com/97reviews/mib.html>

Darn! I had forgotten! I don't remember if I saw the movie either.
It did come out in 97 didn't it? :)

Marco Antoniotti

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Sep 13, 2002, 10:43:30 AM9/13/02
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"Joe Marshall" <prunes...@attbi.com> writes:

I don't remember.

Who is 'ilias'?

Paolo Amoroso

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Sep 13, 2002, 1:47:56 PM9/13/02
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On 12 Sep 2002 13:59:41 -0400, Marco Antoniotti <mar...@cs.nyu.edu> wrote:

> What is a neuralizer? :)

A tool used by men in black.


Paolo
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