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Is it worth the effort to learn Java now?

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Josh Maines

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Apr 25, 2012, 6:40:37 AM4/25/12
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Java is being slowly dumped as I understand it. I question why I
would want to learn Java now. Is it worth learning? If not, what
should I learn instead?

If I had a choice between Java and Python, which would be the best
language to invest my time in?

Roedy Green

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Apr 26, 2012, 6:39:53 PM4/26/12
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 03:40:37 -0700 (PDT), Josh Maines
<jo...@tapskill.com> wrote, quoted or indirectly quoted someone who
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>Java is being slowly dumped as I understand it. I question why I
>would want to learn Java now. Is it worth learning? If not, what
>should I learn instead?

And replaced by what? There are various languages trying to fix some
of Java's futziness, but most of them use the Java JVM and library.
But the total number of programs written them in microscopic compared
with Java. Java is the core. The other languages just have cleaner
syntax. Java itself is undergoing slow evolution, borrowing ideas
pioneered by some of these experimental languages.

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Tsukino Usagi

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Apr 30, 2012, 10:05:11 AM4/30/12
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Why do you think Java is being slowly dumped? The only reason there has
been a dent in Java recently is because a lot of Java programmers have
been picking up Objective-C to program on iOS.

Java is going to win, whether we want it or not. The adoption of Java as
the primary programming langauge for Android is a facet of that. Java
cannot lose the language war because they already won the language war
-- other people just don't see it because they are still thinking like
their own language is better than Java. They don't understand that it is
not about languages anymore and that Java will never die. It's about
bytecode and virtual machines now. Anything you try to replace java with
will fail unless it runs on the Java VM.

Can you write a better VM? That is what it will take to beat Java.

Look at the handheld alliance. Apple is big but they are a flea compared
to the forces behind Java. No, we're going to use java and we're going
to like it, because theyre going to force it down our throats like
oatmeal. Like the Ruby guys. They don't get it. Ruby runs on the Java
VM. Java won. It will never die, and it will never go away. It's the new
C. C will have to die before Java will die.

The MCP which sucks up all data, processing power, and storage space on
the net will be written in Java.
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