Online interview with Chuck Moore!
James Benoit-Robey
Chuck Moore will be making an online appearance on IRC (Internet Relay
Chat). It will take place on Saturday, May 4, at 2pm Pacific Time. The
location is at the #forth channel on the server irc.openprojects.net.
For those of you who don't know about IRC, go to www.mirc.com for a
windows irc client. If you are using some unix variant, there is ircii for
the console or xchat for the X windowing system. There's a really bad
introduction to IRC at http://www.mirc.com/irc.html
Come to the event! Ask Mr. Moore questions and find out what's happening
on the cutting edge of Forth!
Come to the channel anytime! There are about 10 regulars discussing all
things forthy! So if you ever have any questions, or feel like discussing
some aspects of forth, come and visit.
Thanks,
James Benoit-Robey
Todd Nathan
I have tried to connect to this server irc.openprojects.net, and without luck.
Is it up and running all the time? What a port number, is zero okay to use?
Thanks!
Bernd Paysan
> I have tried to connect to this server irc.openprojects.net, and
> without luck.
> Is it up and running all the time? What a port number, is zero okay
> to use? Thanks!
Works fine with me (I used BitchX). Port number for IRC is 6667.
BTW: Is this 2pm Pacific standard time or daylight saving time? 11pm
CEST would be ok, but 11pm CET (12pm CEST) is perhaps a bit too late.
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Mark I Manning IV
Mark I Manning IV
oh sorry - port 6667 is the default irc port on most networks - here too :)
Samuel A. Falvo II
> I have tried to connect to this server irc.openprojects.net, and without luck.
> Is it up and running all the time? What a port number, is zero okay to use?
> Thanks!
Port number for IRC servers, unless otherwise specified, is always
6667. That is why you couldn't connect. Try it again with that port,
and you should connect.
What software are you using that it defaulted to port zero?! Maybe
one shouldn't use that software -- it sounds totally braindead to me.
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Samuel A. Falvo II
Rick Hohensee
usually is, please post it.
Rick Hohensee
David N. Welton
> If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
> usually is, please post it.
http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
seems to have a log - search for 'chipChuck', where the part with
Mr. Moore starts.
openprojects is usually a little bit higher quality than EFNet,
but... it's still IRC:-) They did a pretty nice job, though, I think,
with the interview.
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Todd Nathan
> ri...@capaccess.org (Rick Hohensee) writes:
>
> > If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
> > usually is, please post it.
>
> http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
>
> seems to have a log - search for 'chipChuck', where the part with
> Mr. Moore starts.
>
> openprojects is usually a little bit higher quality than EFNet,
> but... it's still IRC:-) They did a pretty nice job, though, I think,
> with the interview.
Client was and is Baxter for the BeOS, yes it is braindead to be using
port 0 by default, but that is life. I have been using IRC for years,
and forgot port 6667, oh well, me braindead too. And finally, the interview
went really well. I think the moderation was essential to its success
and hope they don't go for a 'free-for-all' format in the future, controlled
chaos is better than total chaos for these types of things. Read the
interview, know where chuck is going been and will be. Jeff Fox arrived
also. Nice to see so many there, 67 or so at a time.
Mark I Manning IV
> ri...@capaccess.org (Rick Hohensee) writes:
>
>
>>If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
>>usually is, please post it.
>>
>
> http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
>
> seems to have a log - search for 'chipChuck', where the part with
> Mr. Moore starts.
>
> openprojects is usually a little bit higher quality than EFNet,
> but... it's still IRC:-) They did a pretty nice job, though, I think,
> with the interview.
>
>
thank you. - we wanted to have a free for all at the end and wanted to
make sure that everyone had a chance to ask chipchuck questions but we
felt we had to set mode +m on the channel to prevent some of the
sillieness that occured prior to the interview (on an earlier visit).
Plus we didnt want to have Mr Moore FLOODED with love and admiration.
Your all being there was indication enough of that :)
Mark I Manning IV
> dav...@dedasys.com (David N. Welton) wrote in message news:<87helmx...@dedasys.com>...
>
>>ri...@capaccess.org (Rick Hohensee) writes:
>>
>>
>>>If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
>>>usually is, please post it.
>>>
>>http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
>>
>>seems to have a log - search for 'chipChuck', where the part with
>>Mr. Moore starts.
>>
>>openprojects is usually a little bit higher quality than EFNet,
>>but... it's still IRC:-) They did a pretty nice job, though, I think,
>>with the interview.
>>
>
> Client was and is Baxter for the BeOS, yes it is braindead to be using
> port 0 by default, but that is life. I have been using IRC for years,
> and forgot port 6667, oh well, me braindead too. And finally, the interview
> went really well. I think the moderation was essential to its success
> and hope they don't go for a 'free-for-all' format in the future, controlled
> chaos is better than total chaos for these types of things.
Agreed but a small ammount of absolute chaos wouldnt have been too bad, the
people there were all well behaved, they werent there to cause trouble
and had
we had a chance to remove the +m i doubt it would have gotten out of
hand :) - Plus.. we could always +m again :)
There is a future interview planned so those of you who were not able to
come can make up for it then. We shall keep you posted.
Rick Hohensee
> > ri...@capaccess.org (Rick Hohensee) writes:
> >
> > > If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
> > > usually is, please post it.
> >
> > http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
> >
> > Mr. Moore starts.
Nice.
Chuck asks "What is the future of Forth?"
Forth is a success, although not like C currently. Success
brings diversification.
He also asks "Who here is using Forth?" I don't, but it's in
cLIeNUX, and I do use (my own) osimplay, which is a Forth-influenced
assembler for x86. This is because Forth is either slow
or un-Forthishly complex on one-stack machines.
Rick Hohensee
Michael L.Gassanenko
> > >
> > > > If someone logged that and it's not as foul as IRC (in EFNet #linux)
> > > > usually is, please post it.
> > >
> > > http://tunes.org/~nef/logs/forth/02.05.04
> > >
>
To see the log of the CM's interview, go to
http://www.forth.org.ru/ --> "online interview"
IOW,
http://www.forth.org.ru/~mlg/toussovki/cm.05.04.2002.txt
This is an *unedited* log of the relevant period of time.
Jeff Fox
where Chuck was present and where the coming-and-going messages
have been removed and the questions to Chuck and his answers
are in bold text. The page also includes links to the two-hour
log, and the full raw 24-hour that was mentioned before in
this newsgroup.
http://www.ultratechnology.com/chatlog.htm
There will another similar chat session with Chuck at the
same location a week from tomorrow, May 18. I thought people
asked Chuck some interesting questions and as usual
Chuck gave some entertaining answers. A few of his
comments were quite politically incorrect. I expect
that they will spark some interesting discussion in
c.l.f when they surface here.
There was one comment that I think is true for Chuck but
not for me or most other people. I certainly don't always
agree with Chuck. There were a couple of questions in
particular when I resisted the temptation to say anything.
All in all it was fun and I think people look forward
to the next chat session.
P.S. Does anyone know of a IRC bot that will provide a
realtime HTML window into a chat session? Otherwise
people have to learn how to participate in IRC Chats
which has a bit of a learning curve for some.
best wishes,
Jeff Fox
Mark I Manning IV
> I posted an html version of the two hours of the interview
> where Chuck was present and where the coming-and-going messages
> have been removed and the questions to Chuck and his answers
> are in bold text. The page also includes links to the two-hour
> log, and the full raw 24-hour that was mentioned before in
> this newsgroup.
>
> http://www.ultratechnology.com/chatlog.htm
thanx muchly :)
>
> There will another similar chat session with Chuck at the
> same location a week from tomorrow, May 18. I thought people
> asked Chuck some interesting questions and as usual
> Chuck gave some entertaining answers. A few of his
> comments were quite politically incorrect. I expect
> that they will spark some interesting discussion in
> c.l.f when they surface here.
calling a spade a spade or the kettle black tends to get you in trouble
these days for sure. specially when its true :)
>
> There was one comment that I think is true for Chuck but
> not for me or most other people. I certainly don't always
> agree with Chuck. There were a couple of questions in
> particular when I resisted the temptation to say anything.
> All in all it was fun and I think people look forward
> to the next chat session.
>
actually i wish you hade voiced YOUR opinon on a few items, your a
respected individual in that channel too ya know (also i agreed with
about 95% of what chipchuck said).
> P.S. Does anyone know of a IRC bot that will provide a
> realtime HTML window into a chat session? Otherwise
> people have to learn how to participate in IRC Chats
> which has a bit of a learning curve for some.
>
im writing an irc bot now in forth (isforth using my sockets code) -
maybe it could be tunred into what you are looking for - how wouldit work ?
Michael L.Gassanenko
> > P.S. Does anyone know of a IRC bot that will provide a
> > realtime HTML window into a chat session? Otherwise
> > people have to learn how to participate in IRC Chats
> > which has a bit of a learning curve for some.
> >
>
> im writing an irc bot now in forth (isforth using my sockets code) -
> maybe it could be tunred into what you are looking for - how wouldit work ?
>
There is http://forth.boltalka.ru (boltalka ~~ chatter box)
You can visit this site and borrow some [ideas from] their scripts.
To save a script, you usually can find out its URL by examining
the page source and then save it. In general, if the browser can read it,
you also can.
As I understand, they reload page each n seconds.
Pobably, JavaScript sends a request.
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