Convert COBOL to JAVA
Jeff Baynard
work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds bogus
to me.
Jeff
Paddy Coleman
It is also unnecessary as you can intermix COBOL and Java quite easily
with MERANT's Net Express 3.1.
For more details see:
http://www.merant.com/products/microfocus/net_express/
Hope this helps.
Paddy Coleman
Manager, E-Business Support, EMEA
MERANT International.
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Bill
one company that is rewriting their entire COBOL application, (2+ million
lines) in C++. AS a system written in C++ is 'preferred' to one written in
COBOL. Who cares about reliability/functionality etc etc. It just 'sounds
better' to say I'm investing in a JAVA solution than a COBOL solution. So a
COBOL/JAVA converter sounds attractive.
Also there appears to be more Java / C programmers than COBOL programmers.
Bill
Foodman
"Jeff Baynard" <uni...@macconnect.com> wrote:
> Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done
Hi:
I don't think anyone could explain to you why this must be done.
Could ANYONE come up with a SOUND DOLLARS AND CENTS REASON why
anyone would want to convert COBOL to anything other than COBOL?
I can just imagine what an incomprehensible mess would arise
from such a venture.
Thanks
Tony Dilworth
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a web-based solution. Many of the skills and techniques are similar if JAVA
is used to replace COBOL. CGI programming is in a sense
pseudo-conversational.
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logical extension of these skill sets for anyone wanting to do interenet
programming. CobolScript is a server side scripting
language based on COBOL. Here are some examples:
CGI: http://www.cobolscript.com/samples.htm
WML: http://www.cobolscript.com/wml.htm
HDML: http://www.cobolscript.com/hdml.htm
Database connectivity: http://www.cobolscript.com/profwin.htm
http://www.cobolscript.com/profunix.htm.
Matthew Dean
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In article <8mbr5i$sol$1...@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>,
Thane Hubbell
any other JVM. Personally, I would save a lot of effort and use
PerCOBOL from http://www.legacyj.com to do this.
On Thu, 03 Aug 2000 00:40:06 -0400, "Jeff Baynard"
<uni...@macconnect.com> wrote:
>Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. A colleaque at
>work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
>application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds bogus
>to me.
>
>Jeff
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G Moore
>Many clients in non ibm 'shops' prefer to buy unix c/java solutions. I know of
>one company that is rewriting their entire COBOL application, (2+ million
>lines) in C++. AS a system written in C++ is 'preferred' to one written in
>COBOL. Who cares about reliability/functionality etc etc. It just 'sounds
>better' to say I'm investing in a JAVA solution than a COBOL solution. So a
>COBOL/JAVA converter sounds attractive.
ok, that's just gotta take the cake. converting from cobol to C? i
mean, if you need real time interaction or queues, that'd be one
thing, but if they are just converting cause they are stupid...
i'd love to see how they handle moving from pic usage display to
non-portable data types.
>Also there appears to be more Java / C programmers than COBOL programmers.
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aflinsch
>
> Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. A colleaque at
> work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
Sounds to me like there are some new upper level managers who like to
spew new and improved buzzwords. Perhaps they want to be known as the
folks who brought the current system into the modern age. They most
likely will end up being known as the bozos who screwed up the whole
works, and kept going over budget.
> application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds bogus
> to me.
Of course it's bogus, it's a management decision.
G Moore
>Yes, the web is in a sense pseudo-conversational. CobolScript is a
>logical extension of these skill sets for anyone wanting to do interenet
>programming. CobolScript is a server side scripting
>language based on COBOL. Here are some examples:
>
>CGI: http://www.cobolscript.com/samples.htm
>WML: http://www.cobolscript.com/wml.htm
i dunno. it looks like a combination between cobol and html to me.
i think cobolhttp or whatever it's called might be better (that's if
they can include a tool like netscape composer to build webpages).
Warren Simmons
I don't think so. Bogus, that is.
Warren Simmons
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> Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. A colleaque
at
> work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
> application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds
bogus
> to me.
>
> Jeff
Michael Mattias
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>
> anyone would want to convert COBOL to anything other than COBOL?
Big Project. Big Budget. More dollars for manager to play with. Feels Good.
That may explain the dollars, but I don't see the cents, either.
MCM
Jerry P
Heard of a lot of legacy Java applications being converted TO COBOL,
but not the reverse.
Can't imagine why someone would go COBOL --> Java; maybe "Because it's
there?"
Howard Brazee
Jerry P wrote:
>
> Dunno.
>
> Heard of a lot of legacy Java applications being converted TO COBOL,
> but not the reverse.
>
> Can't imagine why someone would go COBOL --> Java; maybe "Because it's
> there?"
Maybe he went to the colleges and asked what skills they were teaching.
Mike Sheehan
But as many have said there is plenty of scope for mixing java with COBOL.
Startups have successfully gone the Java route e.g. a scottish bank; but
conversions are a different kettle of fish.
Mike
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You ever think that maybe a JAVA programmer makes more money???
> Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. A
colleaque at
> work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
> application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds
bogus
> to me.
>
> Jeff
>
Howard Brazee
>
> Perhaps they have a "java only here policy" - seeing COBOL as legacy code...
> But as many have said there is plenty of scope for mixing java with COBOL.
> Startups have successfully gone the Java route e.g. a scottish bank; but
> conversions are a different kettle of fish.
My shop mixed languages. They allow us to pick a language more suited
for particular tasks. Theoretically, this would allow us to expand our
skill set as well.
Except what happens is that we are needed at our current tasks, so we
don't get to expand our skill sets. Then we change jobs, leaving a task
without skilled workers to do that task.
Thane Hubbell
wrote:
>Dunno.
>
>Heard of a lot of legacy Java applications being converted TO COBOL,
>but not the reverse.
>
I want to hear more about THAT. Tell us more!
G Moore
>Perhaps they want to be known as the
>folks who brought the current system into the modern age. They most
>likely will end up being known as the bozos who screwed up the whole
>works, and kept going over budget.
hehe. most modernization could be handled by changing the applications
and hardware specs, *not* the language it is coded in.
WDS
>Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. [...]
Such a conversion is often either an attempt at seeking portability or
an effort to www-ize all applications.
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> Jeff Baynard wrote:
> >
> > Could anyone explain to me why this might need to be done. A colleaque
at
> > work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
>
> Sounds to me like there are some new upper level managers who like to
> spew new and improved buzzwords. Perhaps they want to be known as the
> folks who brought the current system into the modern age. They most
> likely will end up being known as the bozos who screwed up the whole
> works, and kept going over budget.
>
>
> > application to JAVA. Now, I don't know anymore specifics. It sounds
bogus
> > to me.
>
Gazaloo
> work is leaving the company to work for another, converting COBOL
bogus
> to me.
it's most frequently a strategic choice. particularly in the case of Java,
as it's not so much the language that is the compelling factor (though it is
a very good clean language suited for many tasks), but that you can consider
Java (with all the supporting classes, J2EE et al) to provide a machine and
operating system independent PLATFORM upon which you can host your
applications.
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James J. Gavan
brucepbarrett wrote:
>
> Check back in a couple of years to see what they are running for production.
Some guidance on target date please. Should I check before or after
COBOL 200X is released ?
Jimmy
brucepbarrett
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Howard Brazee
> In article <8mat3...@enews4.newsguy.com>,
> "Jeff Baynard" <uni...@macconnect.com> wrote:
>
> You ever think that maybe a JAVA programmer makes more money???
So why does a java programmer make more money? (I don't know whether to
spell it "java" or "Java", but it should not be "JAVA", as it is not an
acronym).
Supply and demand decides how much money a skill earns. But there are a
lot more schools creating Java programmers than Cobol programmers. The
supply needs to keep growing to match this, or else there will soon be a
correction.
Jeff York
>Many clients in non ibm 'shops' prefer to buy unix c/java solutions. I know of
>one company that is rewriting their entire COBOL application, (2+ million
>lines) in C++.
They must need their f*****g brains testing..!
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