Who created COBOL ?
Leif Svalgaard
for promoting early Cobol efforts was (Rear Admiral) Grace Hopper.
Do a search on the internet (e.g. http://www.google.com) for Grace
Hopper and ye shall find many a tidbit to flavor your speech with...
Sameer <tai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> For a Y2k speech I need a name of someone who
> originally created COBOL.
>
> Know of anyone ?
>
> Regards
> Sameer
> tai...@hotmail.com
>
>
>
Sameer
docd...@clark.net
Sameer <tai...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>For a Y2k speech I need a name of someone who
>originally created COBOL.
>
>Know of anyone ?
Please do your own homework.
DD
Sameer
Leif Svalgaard
"thank you".
Sameer <tai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ok
>
>
Jerry Peacock
> Hello,
>
> For a Y2k speech I need a name of someone who
> originally created COBOL.
>
committee?" Can you imagine a government-designed
thumb-tack?
Ed Guy
active duty Admiral in the US Navy in her eighties (oldest ever serving admiral - most
people think that was Rickover but he retired in his seventies).
However a lot of what's in COBOL came from other sources. Somebody I once worked with
had been with the LEO project and claimed that they invented the PICTURE clause. LEO is
still an inspiration. Imagine, a bunch of English tea shop accountants (Joe Lyons Tea
Shops) in the 1950s developing their own computer and getting it to really work (Later
merged as part of English Electric - Leo - Marconi and still alter ICL). This business
has a fascinating history.
Leif Svalgaard wrote:
>
> No one person created Cobol. A person often credited
> for promoting early Cobol efforts was (Rear Admiral) Grace Hopper.
> Do a search on the internet (e.g. http://www.google.com) for Grace
> Hopper and ye shall find many a tidbit to flavor your speech with...
>
> Sameer <tai...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7pq3e1$17d$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz..
> > Hello,
> >
> > For a Y2k speech I need a name of someone who
> > originally created COBOL.
--
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>
> Grace is the person primarily credited with it. Fantastic person. She was still an
> active duty Admiral in the US Navy in her eighties (oldest ever serving admiral - most
> people think that was Rickover but he retired in his seventies).
> However a lot of what's in COBOL came from other sources. Somebody I once worked with
> had been with the LEO project and claimed that they invented the PICTURE clause. LEO is
> still an inspiration. Imagine, a bunch of English tea shop accountants (Joe Lyons Tea
> Shops) in the 1950s developing their own computer and getting it to really work (Later
> merged as part of English Electric - Leo - Marconi and still alter ICL). This business
> has a fascinating history.
>
And you could have added, Joe Lyons also designed the (Lector ?) OMR
document reader providing their vansalesmen with a set of order
documents for their routes. (Can't remember, but they may have had an
NCR CRAM). Initially (at Unigate) we based our milk collection routes
and retail van sales designs parallel to Joe Lyons, but opted for
keypunch documents to paper-tape.
English Electric + Leo + Marconi = ICT = ICL + Singer POS = Fujitsu ?
Jimmy, Calgary AB
Ed Guy
> And you could have added, Joe Lyons also designed the (Lector ?) OMR
> document reader providing their vansalesmen with a set of order
> documents for their routes. (Can't remember, but they may have had an
> NCR CRAM). Initially (at Unigate) we based our milk collection routes
> and retail van sales designs parallel to Joe Lyons, but opted for
> keypunch documents to paper-tape.
>
> English Electric + Leo + Marconi = ICT = ICL + Singer POS = Fujitsu ?
I think the Leo was pre-CRAM. I remember the Saskatchewan Wheat Board having one of
those things in the mid 60's when I was working at Sask Power using their FP6000 (one
of about five computers in Regina at the time).
Richard Plinston
: still an inspiration. Imagine, a bunch of English tea shop accountants (Joe Lyons Tea
Well, not quite. It was not a new development but a 'productionising'
of one of the university development machines: ACE ? and it was
--
Richard Plinston
B
: English Electric + Leo + Marconi = ICT = ICL + Singer POS = Fujitsu ?
It was:
English Electric-LEO-Marconi
+ Marconi Automation
+ Vickers Computer division
+ ICT (I worked for ICT at the time)
Singer (including Cogar) were aquired later
ICL also aquired several smaller companies.
Fujitsu bought ICL to expand their interests in Europe.
--
Ed Guy
I never worked on ACE - but I did write some stuff in DEUCE Alphacode (for CEGB).
When I look back on that and compare it to something like Delphi or C++ Builder I am
truly amazed at how far the business has come.
peter dashwood
Jerry Peacock wrote in message ...>news:7pq3e1$17d$1...@newsource.ihug.co.nz...
>> Hello,
>>
>> For a Y2k speech I need a name of someone who
>> originally created COBOL.
>>
>committee?" Can you imagine a government-designed
>thumb-tack?
>
1959 at the conference on Data System Languages (CODASYL) drafted a language
which could be written on ALL platforms and would render applications
transportable. This was designed to allow the major players at the time to
compete with IBM, although all the members of CODASYL were not exclusively
computer manufacturers. (Cmdr. Grace Hopper represented the US DOD)
These people, with none of the experience we have today, drafted a language
which has stood the test of time and is now being prepared for the new
Millennium (through Merant, Fujitsu, and others). It is a tribute to them
that they managed to incorporate the strengths of their respective platforms
and drop the weaknesses.
peter dashwood
Ed Guy wrote in message <37C2DD...@NOSPAMguysoftware.com>...
>Grace is the person primarily credited with it. Fantastic person. She was
still an
>active duty Admiral in the US Navy in her eighties (oldest ever serving
admiral - most
>people think that was Rickover but he retired in his seventies).
>However a lot of what's in COBOL came from other sources. Somebody I once
worked with
>had been with the LEO project and claimed that they invented the PICTURE
accountants (Joe Lyons Tea
>Shops) in the 1950s developing their own computer and getting it to really
work (Later
This business
>has a fascinating history.
I can confirm that the original COBOL language (COBOL 59) had no PICTURE
clause. We used SIZE, CLASS, and USAGE to obtain the same effect (COBOL 59
was the first COBOL version I worked with, in 1964).
I've heard the same story about LEO and it may be true, but I can't confirm
it.
Please see my posting in reply to Jerry Peacock higher up this thread.
Pete.
Eileen Preston
> Ed Guy <ed_...@nospamguysoftware.com> wrote:
> : still an inspiration. Imagine, a bunch of English tea shop accountants
(Joe Lyons Tea
> : Shops) in the 1950s developing their own computer and getting it to
really
work (Later
>
> of one of the university development machines: ACE ? and it was
>
> --
I never worked on ACE - but I did write some stuff in DEUCE Alphacode (for
CEGB).
When I look back on that and compare it to something like Delphi or C++
Builder I am
truly amazed at how far the business has come.
--
Ed Guy P.Eng,CDP,MIEE
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Ok - we have ACE and DEUCE - where are the Jokers?
Eileen
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Ed Guy
>
>
> Ok - we have ACE and DEUCE - where are the Jokers?
>
Redmond, Washington!
donald tees
Eileen Preston wrote in message ...
>>
>> Ed Guy <ed_...@nospamguysoftware.com> wrote:
>> : still an inspiration. Imagine, a bunch of English tea shop accountants
>(Joe Lyons Tea
>> : Shops) in the 1950s developing their own computer and getting it to
>really
>work (Later
>>
>> Well, not quite. It was not a new development but a 'productionising'
>> of one of the university development machines: ACE ? and it was
>>
>> --
>
>I never worked on ACE - but I did write some stuff in DEUCE Alphacode (for
>CEGB).
>When I look back on that and compare it to something like Delphi or C++
>Builder I am
>truly amazed at how far the business has come.
>
>Ed Guy P.Eng,CDP,MIEE
>Information Technology Consultant
>Internet: ed_...@NOSPAMguysoftware.com remove NOSPAM from email address.
>http://www.guysoftware.com
>"Check out HELLLP!, WinHelp author tool for WinWord 2.0 through 8.0,
> PlanBee Project Management Planning and Scheduling
> and ParseRat, the File Parser, Converter and Reorganizer"
>
>
>