Proffesionals from India/Russia/Eastern Europe
SofTec
We have some exciting opportunities here at Softec USA. We are looking
for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
Europe.
Please contact Softec USA asap.
Regards,
Jeff DeLong
Softec USA
Austin, TX
Jim Rivera
I have to point out that this advertisement is most likely in violation
of the Equal Opportunity Employment laws of the US, which do not allow
the distinction on the basis of national origin. Just a reminder.
JR
themix
SofTec <soft...@usa.net> wrote
> We have some exciting opportunities here at Softec USA. We are looking
> for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
> Europe.
Why? Do you think they are easier to rip off ? Everyone has a right to a
fair rate so quote something in you posting.
docd...@clark.net
In article <3519DC63...@usa.net>, SofTec <soft...@usa.net> wrote:
>We have some exciting opportunities here at Softec USA. We are looking
>for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
>Europe.
... and what's wrong with programmers from the rest of the world? It is
my opinion that this advertisement constitutes an actionable offense
insofar as violation of EOEC regs go... does anyone in Houston want to own
them for the price of a lawsuit?
DD
Gary Lee
SofTec <soft...@usa.net> wrote in article <3519DC63...@usa.net>...
> We have some exciting opportunities here at Softec USA. We are looking
> for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
> Europe.
And while you're considering contacting them, keep in mind that they
probably want to offer you the opportunity to be paid the going rate in
your home country while billing their customer for the somewhat higher rate
they can get here. If they were really exciting opportunities they'd be
telling everyone about them, not trolling for someone who might be willing
to take a lower rate in order to get entry papers. You'll be lucky if they
even cover your expenses to get over here....
G Lee
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"Twenty years of schoolin' and they put you on the day shift."
Bob Dylan
JCJ0347
>We are looking for programmers/software developers
> from India, Russia and Eastern Europe.
This has got to be a troll. No one in their right mind would
post such a flagrant violation of federal laws on such a public
place as a Usenet newsgroup.
Lou, is that you?
H.W.M
> for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
> Europe.
>
I think (if this is a real ad) that some semiliterate in the company stumbled
upon an article I saw a few years back on COBOL and the teaching and usage of
the language around the world. It was noted that in these abovementioned
regions even new programming was being done and that the language was more
"alive" than in the more industrialized nations...
*sorry* but I cannot recall where I read it.
These softec-people are probably offering a bullet-proof office with metal
detectors but the poor aliens need to bring their own AK-47's. They're gettin a
zillion applications I bet from guys not being so picky.
WBRGDS Henry
p.s. though I am from the "east" side of West Europe I still think the ad was
quite unbelievable to be sent from the U.S. ---any of you yanks going to sue
them???
Cobol Frog (Huib Klink)
Just curious, don't flame me!
Over here in Holland, it is more than somtimes allowed to apply so called
"positive discrimination". This term means that groups of people, for
example people permanently bodily diseased, woman, people immigrated etc.
are given extra (more) changes. In a Dutch job advertisement, it is quit
normal to read: "given equal skills, women and disabled people are
preferred". The thought behind this is that as long as changes are more
than a little worse for some groups, they are given some more
opportunities. This is legally accepted practice and promoted by the
government. Of course there are lots of discussions about particular
situations, over and over in the newspapers etc.
How about that as a possible explanation of SofTec's ad? What is in general
"the American way" in this things?
Huib.
SofTec wrote:
> We have some exciting opportunities here at Softec USA. We are looking
> for programmers/software developers from India, Russia and Eastern
> Europe.
>
docd...@clark.net
In article <351FFE48...@IMN.nl>,
Cobol Frog (Huib Klink) <H.K...@IMN.nl> wrote:
>Just curious, don't flame me!
>
>Over here in Holland, it is more than somtimes allowed to apply so called
>"positive discrimination". This term means that groups of people, for
>example people permanently bodily diseased, woman, people immigrated etc.
>are given extra (more) changes. In a Dutch job advertisement, it is quit
>normal to read: "given equal skills, women and disabled people are
>preferred".
[snippage]
>How about that as a possible explanation of SofTec's ad? What is in general
>"the American way" in this things?
The 'American way' in these things is... changing as we speak. What you
describe is called 'Affirmative Action', that, given equal qualifications,
some accidents of birth make some people more equal than others. This
legal standard is at present being challenged in the courts and therefore
is in the process of being re-shaped.
NOTE: I am *not* a lawyer, I do *not* play one on TV and I last had
consenting sex with a lawyer about 15 years ago.
DD
docd...@clark.net
In article <6fovp7$g...@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>,
William M. Klein <wmk...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
[snippage of stuff which looks *remarkably* similar to what I posted...
but it ain't said *near* so pretty]
>Now (and I have changed the subject to "OT") everyone on each side can flame
>me for my summaries as being biased toward the other side.
Hey... what about us folks who want to flame you because your parents were
close blood-relatives, you miserable Kallikak?
DD
William M. Klein
The American term is "affirmative action" and it is highly controversial.
The government (both local and federal) have been pushing it for many
years - but recently it has been rejected (by a popular vote in California -
for example) in some places and is under consideration (in various ways) by
our national Supreme Court. The briefest possible summary is:
Against - It is just another form of discrimination and any quota is a bad
quota.
For - it is only making up for past wrongs and there is no way to equalize
opportunity without providing some form of remediation for past ills.
Now (and I have changed the subject to "OT") everyone on each side can flame
me for my summaries as being biased toward the other side.
--
+ +
+ Bill Klein -
"C" is a nice letter to START the name of your programming language
with
but I wouldn't want to end up there.
Cobol Frog (Huib Klink) wrote in message <351FFE48...@IMN.nl>...
>Just curious, don't flame me!
>
>Over here in Holland, it is more than somtimes allowed to apply so called
>"positive discrimination". This term means that groups of people, for
>example people permanently bodily diseased, woman, people immigrated etc.
>are given extra (more) changes. In a Dutch job advertisement, it is quit
>normal to read: "given equal skills, women and disabled people are
>preferred". The thought behind this is that as long as changes are more
>than a little worse for some groups, they are given some more
>opportunities. This is legally accepted practice and promoted by the
>government. Of course there are lots of discussions about particular
>situations, over and over in the newspapers etc.
>
>How about that as a possible explanation of SofTec's ad? What is in general
>"the American way" in this things?
>
Cobol Frog (Huib Klink)
Thanks for both your reactions, DD and Bill.
End-thread
.
Ross Klatte
Cobol Frog (Huib Klink) <H.K...@IMN.nl> wrote in article
<3520A55C...@IMN.nl>...
> Thanks for both your reactions, DD and Bill.
>
> .
>
>
They might have added that Indians, Russians, and Eastern
Europeans do not qualify for affirmative action--not even in
California, the fountain of all erroneous thought.
--
Ross