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Antonio

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Apr 7, 2002, 5:26:54 PM4/7/02
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I am trying to learn Clarion programming, after years programming with
DBase for DOS.

I got the basics of Clarion but found the Clarion docummentation
lacking for new users. From the basics it jumps to very complex
matters. Does anybody know of learning materials that can be useful ?

Sincerely,

Antonio Ruotolo

Earl R. Coker

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Apr 7, 2002, 9:46:26 PM4/7/02
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Hi Antonio,

I feel for you on the docs. <g> What version of Clarion are you using???

You might want to get a subscription to Clarion Magazine, an eMagazine
listed below. Probably the best place to start.

The only help I can give you is some links to go to and spend some time
looking around.

Go to some of these links
http://www.tomruby.com/clarion/
http://www.par2.com/
http://www.clarionmag.com/index.html
http://www.attryde.com/clarion/
http://www.clarionpost.com/
http://www.clarionfoundry.com/
http://www.encouragersoftware.com/
http://www.icetips.com/
http://www.softvelocity.com/clarionet/
http://www.cwhandy.com/
http://www.mittensoftware.com/ <===BOOK HERE
and see if you can find what you want.

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Earl R Coker
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David Troxell - Encourager Software

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Apr 8, 2002, 12:11:38 AM4/8/02
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Product Description - Clarion Magazine
MFG - Clarion Magazine (CoveComm Inc.)
Internet Link - http://www.clarionmag.com/index.html

"Loaded with how-to articles, source code, tips and techniques, product
reviews, Clarion news, and more."

Product Description - Clarion Companion, MFG - Randy Goodhew
Internet Link - http://www.mittensoftware.com/prodcwcc.htm

"By Randy Goodhew. Unleash the power of Clarion for Windows with Randy
Goodhew's latest book, Clarion Companion." This book is loaded with
useful, field tested methods that will save you time and improve the
quality of your programming. It is a useful reference guide that tells
you how programs should be written, not how they can be written."

Product Description - Clarion Foundations CD
MFG - SoftVelocity, Inc
Internet Link -
http://www.softvelocity.com/education/ed_courseware_foundations.htm

"Interactive Self-Study Training for Clarion 5 is a Windows-based
training tool that allows you to learn how to start developing business
applications with Clarion as quickly or leisurely as you want to go."

Product Description - Clarion Essentials CD
MFG - SoftVelocity, Inc
Internet Link -
http://www.softvelocity.com/education/ed_courseware_essentials.htm

"This intermediate-level class is designed to pick up right where the
Foundations class ends. Become far more efficient in your Clarion
application development by learning to take full advantage of many of
the more sophisticated capabilities of the tool including utilizing the
OOP-based Application Builder Class."

David

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Ken Stone

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Apr 9, 2002, 8:33:46 AM4/9/02
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Antonio have you gone through the tutorial? I've found that this is
the best place to start....

You're going to enjoy this tool.

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Simon Burrows

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Apr 9, 2002, 5:47:37 PM4/9/02
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Hi Antonio

Have a look at the example apps that come with Clarion. If you have any
problems, either post a message her or on Softvelocity's newsgroup
news.softvelocity.com

You will find that we are a helpful bunch and the questions asked often come
from newbies so don't feel you may get ignored because there will always be
someone will to point you in the right direction.

Good luck.

Cheers
Simon Burrows
VariView templates. - Display your variables and fields as you run your
application
WordSpell templates. - Seamlessly use MS Word's Spell checker in your apps.
Screen Redesigner templates - Let your customers change your screen layouts
and control properties to suit their needs at runtime.
List & Label Templates - Unlimited report layouts, defined by your user at
runtime in your Clarion application
Free template sets
http://www.solace-software.demon.co.uk

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rl

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Apr 10, 2002, 7:45:33 AM4/10/02
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There are two levels of using Clarion. One is the same as any MS Access
developer (read "database administrator") is used to. To do that, just build
on templates and chuck controls on windows. You'll get a result thats about
60% what you want and 40% useless. The other level is true programming where
you actually write the odd line or two of code and understand where to put
the code and how to implement certain functionality or suppress unwanted
functionality. This is much the same as a C++ developer (read "programmer")
would do. Heres the shortcut to the second level...

(1) Put the Clarion away in a cupboard somewhere and forget about it.

(2) Get Java and a Java tutorial book with an OOP focus (C. Thomas Woo. An
introduction to Object Oriented programming with Java. 2nd edition ISBN
0-07-118195-4. is a good primer). Do about three or four months of examples,
hello worlds and stuff.

(3) Take all files; AB*.* from C:\Clarion\LIBSRC (CLW and INC). Read these
files bit by bit until you understand them. Read all the OOP statements for
the RTL, included in the DOCS

Now your done and ready to start "programming" in Clarion.

Your biggest hurdle is going to be moving your mindset from procedural code
to Object code and Clarion will do you no favours in assisting you (forcing
you) to change the way you program. Even today I catch myself doing stupid
things like testing for a duplicate before the Parent call in TakeCompleted
on a form (Thats "Window Validate trigger code" in DB speak)... when there
are proper n tier object embeds for doing just that. Many times you will
read on this newsgroup, the old hands referring to legacy and their
difficulties in mastering OOP. Its not that OOP is particularily hard, its
just that their minds are stuck in procedural mode. Kinda like trying to get
the Afghani women to take off their burkas (its a psych thing). Your on thr
right road and it may take some time, it won't be easy unless your a gifted
natural but when you get there you'll wonder why you ever bothered with that
orrible DB stuff.

Cheers and good luck.
R :-)


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Ralf

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Apr 11, 2002, 5:28:30 AM4/11/02
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Well written,

Ralf


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Masayuki Hino

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May 24, 2002, 4:58:36 PM5/24/02
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If you do speak spanish:
Take a look at www.abcclarion.com
The first magazine of Clarion in spanish

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www.ABCClarion.com
El ABC de Clarion
La primer revista de Clarion en español

imagina software
it´s easy if you try

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