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Labyrinth

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Dec 29, 2008, 11:03:21 PM12/29/08
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MFC Goldmine site updated.

http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html

It contains over 50k of articles on C++, MFC and VC in 50+
categories on all topics,
including code snippets, examples and expert views and opinions.

Site is indexed by Google, so you can find anything you can
imagine within seconds.

Do advanced search and specify site:mfcgoldmine.by.ru

If you add enough keywords, you can precisely zoom-in on
an issue you are looking for.

Example query:

Query:

"abstract class" interface OR inheritance OR polymorphism
site:javagoldmine.by.ru

all these words:

this exact wording or phrase: abstract class

one or more of these words: interface inheritance polymorphism

Search within a site or domain: mfcgoldmine.by.ru

Also, JavaGoldmine is at http://javagoldmine.by.ru/inde.html

Labyrinth

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Dec 30, 2008, 11:02:14 PM12/30/08
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In article <gjc6i2$c5b$1...@news.albasani.net>, en...@exit.here (Labyrinth) wrote:
>MFC Goldmine site updated.
>
> http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html

Note:

JavaGoldmine (http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html)
and MFCGoldmine (http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html)
[contains C#, C++, VC and MFC equivalent of javagoldmine]

are temporarily off line since 9:00 GMT on december 30, 2008.

Should be back on line soon...

But it's a New Year after all :--}

Brian Muth

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Dec 31, 2008, 6:30:55 PM12/31/08
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This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are up".

Jonathan Wood

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Dec 31, 2008, 7:11:58 PM12/31/08
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"Brian Muth" <bm...@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:uvGpU$5aJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...

> This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are
> up".

I tried it earlier and don't want to try again. This post really has no
business here.

Still, I'm curious as to why you say it sucks.

--
Jonathan Wood
SoftCircuits Programming
http://www.softcircuits.com
http://www.softcircuits.com/blog/

Labyrinth

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Jan 1, 2009, 9:55:10 PM1/1/09
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In article <gjc6i2$c5b$1...@news.albasani.net>, en...@exit.here (Labyrinth) wrote:
>MFC Goldmine site updated.

JavaGoldmine and MFCGoldmine are back on line.

MFCGoldmine - http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html
JavaGoldmine - http://javagoldmine.by.ru/index.html

Have fun.

Labyrinth

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Jan 1, 2009, 9:58:14 PM1/1/09
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In article <u$$YUW6aJ...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Jonathan Wood" <jw...@softcircuits.com> wrote:
>"Brian Muth" <bm...@mvps.org> wrote in message
>news:uvGpU$5aJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
>> This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are
>> up".
>
>I tried it earlier and don't want to try again. This post really has no
>business here.

Who do you think you are, donkeyass
to decide what belongs to where?

Are you a hotshot by ANY chance?

I like those.

Fer breakfast.

Labyrinth

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Jan 1, 2009, 10:12:15 PM1/1/09
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In article <uvGpU$5aJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl>, "Brian Muth" <bm...@mvps.org> wrote:

>This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are up".

Yep, seen PLENTY of your kind.
The same stroke,
the same violent and bastardly talk,
the same rotten mind.

The suckers of YOUR kind
are there to spill poison.
They always look into the plates of others
when they eat.

Nothing makes them "happier" than to create
something rootten, to destroy something,
to insult someone, to twist and pervert it,
put it upside down, poke their rotten nose
into affairs of others.

But...

What they have to say is nothing more than
a hissing sound. Because there is just no
substance to it. There is no meat, and their
balls are of the size of a mosquito,
even though they pump their chests
like Alexander Da Great, Napoleon or Adolph Hitler.

Quesion: Why did you remove the original message,
mr. donkeyass?

Do you ALWAYS do these kinds of rotten things?

No problem, it is restored at the end of my reply.
You see, mr. smart, people have to see the CONTEXT
in which you say certain things, especially if you,
lil chicken shit impersonator, make rotten statements
like you do. Otherwise they don't even know what are
you talking about. You removed the ENTIRE nessage
and only left YOUR crap, and even to call it crap
is a compliment.

Well, tellya one thingy, mr. big gun,
I don't recall seeing anyone later
that sucks better then you.

I bet you can't write a hello world program
without making a bug.

Because you monkey logic is broken, you see.

You can't just make these kind of statements
without substantiating them.

Clear enough?

And I bet my dead spider balls you can't make
a site as good in your entire lifetime.

Keep sucking. Afterall, what ELSE to do in life, right?

:--}

Original post:

JavaGoldmine site updated.

http://javagoldmine.by.ru/index.html

It contains over 50k articles in 50+ categories on all Java topics,


including code snippets, examples and expert views and opinions.

Site is indexed by Google, so you can find anything you can
imagine within seconds.

Do advanced search and specify site:javagoldmine.by.ru

If you add enough keywords, you can precisely zoom-in on
an issue you are looking for.

Example query:

Query:

"abstract class" interface OR inheritance OR polymorphism
site:javagoldmine.by.ru

all these words:

this exact wording or phrase: abstract class

one or more of these words: interface inheritance polymorphism

Search within a site or domain: javagoldmine.by.ru

Jeff Schwab

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Jan 1, 2009, 10:28:06 PM1/1/09
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Labyrinth wrote:
> In article <u$$YUW6aJ...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl>, "Jonathan Wood" <jw...@softcircuits.com> wrote:
>> "Brian Muth" <bm...@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uvGpU$5aJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are
>>> up".

Is there a particular reason, or are you just trying to discourage a troll?

>> I tried it earlier and don't want to try again. This post really has no
>> business here.
>
> Who do you think you are, donkeyass

"Donkeyass" is redundant.

> to decide what belongs to where?

He didn't "decide." He is informing you of something you apparently did
not realize, and thereby giving you the benefit of the doubt. He did
not insult you at all, and no insult was merited in response. If you
want people to look at your site, you might try accepting his advice,
and limiting your posts to more appropriate fora.

There are two issues with your post:

(1) It's an unsolicited advertisement. Nobody likes spam.

(2) Your post is largely platform-specific, yet you posted it to groups
that are meant for non-platform-specific discussion. If you want to
discuss C++, then comp.lang.c++ is the right place; if you want to
discuss MFC, though, please do not include these groups in your list.
You may want to read the group's regularly posted "welcome" message:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c++/browse_thread/thread/de29e4d4cf010cff

Labyrinth

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Jan 1, 2009, 10:31:09 PM1/1/09
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In article <gjeqrq$jcr$1...@news.albasani.net>, en...@exit.here (Labyrinth) wrote:
>In article <gjc6i2$c5b$1...@news.albasani.net>, en...@exit.here (Labyrinth) wrote:

>>MFC Goldmine site updated.

>> http://mfcgoldmine.by.ru/index.html

JavaGoldmine and MFCGoldmine are back on line.

Have fun.

>Note:

Richard Heathfield

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Jan 2, 2009, 1:15:43 AM1/2/09
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Labyrinth said:

<snip>



> even though they pump their chests
> like Alexander Da Great, Napoleon or Adolph Hitler.

Godwin's Law applies - you just lost your argument.

> Quesion: Why did you remove the original message,

Um, my server still carries it, so clearly he didn't do that.

For the record, its message ID is: <gjc6i2$c5b$1...@news.albasani.net>
and, even if your server no longer carries it, you can find it in
Google's archives at this address:

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.vc.mfc/browse_thread/thread/cd8333fd25b20df2?q=#0c035aaab1f308f7

(Your newsreader might wrap that line, in which case you'll need to
unwrap it yourself.)

--
Richard Heathfield <http://www.cpax.org.uk>
Email: -http://www. +rjh@
Google users: <http://www.cpax.org.uk/prg/writings/googly.php>
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999

Jonathan Wood

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Jan 2, 2009, 1:35:21 AM1/2/09
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"Labyrinth" <en...@exit.here> wrote in message
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>>> This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are
>>> up".
>>
>>I tried it earlier and don't want to try again. This post really has no
>>business here.
>
> Who do you think you are, donkeyass
> to decide what belongs to where?
>
> Are you a hotshot by ANY chance?
>
> I like those.
>
> Fer breakfast.
>
>>Still, I'm curious as to why you say it sucks.

Ah, a lightweight. Carry on...

Jonathan

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 6:06:52 AM1/2/09
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In article <262705DD-4332-4C03...@microsoft.com>, "David Ching" <d...@remove-this.dcsoft.com> wrote:
>"Jonathan Wood" <jw...@softcircuits.com> wrote in message
>news:u$$YUW6aJ...@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...

>> "Brian Muth" <bm...@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> news:uvGpU$5aJHA...@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>
>>> This site sucks. Don't go there. If you do, make sure your "shields are
>>> up".

Btw, talking about what sucks, both JavaGoldmine and MFCGoldmine
are in top 50 sites on one of the most reliable web counters,
Motigo. Mind you, these counter always start with 0 and you
can not start them at any other value, nor can you modify
the counts in the future or anything like that.

Here is the link to see for yourself:

http://webstats.motigo.com/catalogue/top1000?id=4584891&country=UA

There are different counters used on that site.

So it is more than one.

At this moment, 2 java and 1 MFC/C/C++ counters are:

Java 1: position 15
Java 2: position 20
MFC: position 46

And that is out of more than a million sites they count.

Does it tell you ANYTHING, mr. smart?

>> I tried it earlier and don't want to try again. This post really has no
>> business here.
>>
>> Still, I'm curious as to why you say it sucks.
>>
>

>Harsh, guys. I like the site. It highlights high value posts from
>newsgroups and lets your browse through them. Randomly picking some topics
>is like browsing through Raymond Chen's OldNewThing blog. Learn something
>new with a few clicks. You can also search with google amongst the high
>value posts, so your results will be more relevant than just searching the
>newsgroup overall.
>
>I have removed
>comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,microsoft.public.win32.programmer.kernel from this
>response since the site is named MFC Goldmine sites and seems off-topic for
>those newsgroups.

Sorry, I have to put some of them back because the information
provided IS appropriate on those groups and I have a pretty good
idea what is appropriate and what is not.

:--}

>-- David
>

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 6:38:52 AM1/2/09
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Hi, Jonathan.

If you understand the subtle points of information
as such, you could drop your two cents in.

That is "official" invitation.

And so is everybody, who is good,
and by "good" I mean Silicon Valley level,
and even that is not enough.

But...

The good news is that all that is required is understnding
systems and information. All otehr technical aspects we can
work out. You'd be doing what you like, and the ideas will
be thrown on the table for you to pick up, or not to pick
up. No hard feelings. But, you'd better write a clean code
that is well commented and EASILY expandable within minutes.
These are the basic things.

As to the Usenet writing style, you may wish to review
this article on velocityreviews:

http://www.velocityreviews.
com/forums/t628208-java-goldmine-site-httpjavagoldminebyruindexhtml.html

Richard Tobin

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Jan 2, 2009, 6:57:00 AM1/2/09
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In article <gjjvme$rfg$3...@news.albasani.net>, Labyrinth <en...@exit.here> wrote:

>MFCGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html
>JavaGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html

I'd think very carefully before going to any site with an "ru" domain.

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 6:56:33 AM1/2/09
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In article <Zqidnc8gWoZdMsDU...@bt.com>, r...@see.sig.invalid wrote:
>Labyrinth said:
>
><snip>
>
>> even though they pump their chests
>> like Alexander Da Great, Napoleon or Adolph Hitler.
>
>Godwin's Law applies - you just lost your argument.

First of all, I have no argument.
I am too busy for that stuff.
You can aruge here all day long, till your nose goes blue.
Doesn't matter to me.

Just don't get nasty. That is humble suggestion.

Secondly, I really don't like to deal with people,
who live by somebody elses templates, and brain washing
one liners of "Goodwin" type.

Who is this goodwin?
A god?
All knowing?
Omni-potent?
Omni-scient?

Is he some kind of authority for the fools of your kind?

Well, for me, he isn't an authority of ANY kind.
Just an amoeba level biorobot, brainwashed to oblivion.

Why do you cite such an idiot?

You like idiotic things having no substance?

You live by the principle of one liners,
where everage sentence lengthe is 4 words
and an average word length is 4 letters?

If so, may I humbly suggest to find something better
to do in your life. Something that makes you enjoy it.

You communicate in buzzwords?

:--}

Do you REALLY have ANYTHING to say?
and I mean ANYTHING of ANY value?

>> Quesion: Why did you remove the original message,

>Um, my server still carries it, so clearly he didn't do that.

Cunning.

When people read the post, they may not be even aware
what was that post was following on.

Basically, there are kinds of people that do this rotten
thing of removing ANYTHING of substance and then rave on
with their "cryticism" crap.

Because they are basically cowards,
gutless cowards,
that pervert, distort, twist it around,
and put things upside down.

You say: yes

THEY say: not

Whatever you say, they are going to negate and deny.

Now, where IS your "argument".
So far, I don't see ANY.

Can you clean up that "dimly lit kerosine lamp
between your ears"?

>For the record, its message ID is: <gjc6i2$c5b$1...@news.albasani.net>
>and, even if your server no longer carries it, you can find it in
>Google's archives at this address:

I am not talking about records.

I want to see the post in CONTEXT.

Now, imagine your technical post, by some magic power,
ends up on one of Goldmine collections, just because
you said something that semi-makes sense, or wrote
some code snippet.

When another smart dude of your kind looks at it,
he does not even know what are you talking about.

You'd probably remove some declarations, functions
and methods, variables, structures from the original
source code, and the whole thing just no longer makes
ANY sense.

How do you like THAT kwality of informationz?

Just look at the way I write the posts.
Simple, really.

Lines are short. Paragraphs are short.
Everything is clearly separated into separate blips
of information, contained withing one block or paragraph.

There is plenty of white space so it does not look
like one blob of something, no one is going to even
bother reading.

I never use tabs.

I NEVER remove ANYTNG from the post I am replying to.
Because WHAT I am replying to must be kept in original
form.

THAT is what quality information is about,
and there are quite a few other things that make
your life easier, more pleasant and joyful.

Because it is an expression of creativity,
forever unfolding.

It is an orgasmic feeling about life, who you are,
what you are doing, and every bit of it.

Would you like to finally have some JOY in your life?

How long are you going to suffer for?

Ok, that's enough for this one.

>http://groups.google.co.uk/group/microsoft.public.vc.mfc/browse_thread/thread/c

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 7:05:01 AM1/2/09
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In article <gjkvec$2d9$1...@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>, ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
>In article <gjjvme$rfg$3...@news.albasani.net>, Labyrinth <en...@exit.here> wrote:
>
>>MFCGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html
>>JavaGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html
>
>I'd think very carefully before going to any site with an "ru" domain.

:--}

Well, you don't have to worry about this one.
If something EVER happens to it, I'll be here warning you.

Btw, the site is going to move to a different place.
It is kinda problem. Because it is indexed by all sorts
of places and it takes months for a new site to percolate
all the Googles and Yahoos.

The ONLY thing on that site is the traffic counters.
Yes, they are provided by the inbdependent counter vendor.
But it is a reliable vendor with the highest standards
of doing business, at least from what I know about them,
and I know them for quite a while. Never had a single
problem with them.

These counters are running on independent site,
that NEVER allows fiddling with counters and NEVER
start counters with any value > 0.

And those things are important.

But, you don't have to go to that site.

Noone is forcing you. Except, within a couple of months,
your level of expertise is going to go up there, and
so will your salary with the next review.

You KNOW what I mean, don't you?

:--}

>-- Richard

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 7:07:48 AM1/2/09
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Again the buzzowrds and one liners,
UTTERLY devoid of any meaning?

I bet you are writting the buggiest code there is,
so sloppy is your "arguments". Actually, I do not
see a SINGLE argument woth of of anything of any value.

What do you have to say, really?

What do you want?

What would make you happy?

What would turn on that light within you,
so you jump in extacy of life?

Do you know?

>Jonathan

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 7:15:12 AM1/2/09
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In article <gjkvtd$29b$2...@news.albasani.net>, en...@exit.here (Labyrinth) wrote:
>In article <gjkvec$2d9$1...@pc-news.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>, ric...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk
> (Richard Tobin) wrote:
>>In article <gjjvme$rfg$3...@news.albasani.net>, Labyrinth <en...@exit.here>
> wrote:
>>
>>>MFCGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html
>>>JavaGoldmine - http://xxx.ru/index.html
>>
>>I'd think very carefully before going to any site with an "ru" domain.
>
>:--}
>
>Well, you don't have to worry about this one.
>If something EVER happens to it, I'll be here warning you.
>
>Btw, the site is going to move to a different place.
>It is kinda problem. Because it is indexed by all sorts
>of places and it takes months for a new site to percolate
>all the Googles and Yahoos.
>
>The ONLY thing on that site is the traffic counters.

written in Javascript by the counter vendor.

If you take the counters code out, the browsers would
never even warn you about "potentially harmful code".

Because the rest of it is pure HTML,
and those counters can not be removed.
ANY way you cut it, the counters must be located
at independent and reliable outsite party.

Simple as that.

pete

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Jan 2, 2009, 8:49:25 AM1/2/09
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Labyrinth wrote:

> At this moment, 2 java and 1 MFC/C/C++ counters are:
>
> Java 1: position 15
> Java 2: position 20
> MFC: position 46
>
> And that is out of more than a million sites they count.
>
> Does it tell you ANYTHING, mr. smart?

There's nothing about C there.

--
pete

David Ching

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Jan 2, 2009, 9:47:34 AM1/2/09
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"Labyrinth" <en...@exit.here> wrote in message
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> I bet you are writting the buggiest code there is,
> so sloppy is your "arguments". Actually, I do not
> see a SINGLE argument woth of of anything of any value.
>

Heh, Jonathan is one of the "experts" here whom you should definitely filter
in on your website.

-- David

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 10:17:32 AM1/2/09
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Hey, thanx.

I'll take your word for it now and make sure he is on the expert
list. They are filtered on From: header plus the issues, plus
some other things.

Lemme see my list here.
Nope, he is not on da lits.
Is that why he is pissed?
He saw the expert categories, but did not find himself
in there?

:--}

Wow. That bites. I can comprehend that.

So, I'll put him on the lits and he'll probably appear
on the brand new look and feel and you name it.

It is going to run under MoinMoin http://moinmo.in

It is going to be wiki based with ALL sorts of bells
and whistles. I am already salivating myself.
Did some manual markup testing for NNTP articles.
Look real good. But I am just to busy to drop a few
lines of code in so it runs programmatically.

Can you recommend other guys, who know what they are talking
about? Agaom, term "expert" is used loosely. I had a few guys
on JavaGoldmine taken out. But when I saw some of the posts,
I decided it is worth it.

First of all, some people are really helpful.
Thee describe things in a more or less complete fasion.
So, even though you could say "wall, he is not that great
of an expert", but he can deliver a message, putting all
the energy he has into it. The end result, the information
is MUCH more helpful even though he might be not as good
on the deepest levels, such as multithreading, synchronization
and some other things. But I'd rather let people decide,
instead of missing his information. If someone is not that
impressed, they know how to push the next button.

Last few years I am doing Java mostly.
So, I don't participate or even watch these groups.
Java kinda intense trip. Takes a while to get into nuts
and bolts of it.

Garbage collector is really cool. Don't have to worry
about delete or free.

Built-in GUI - cool. No platform dependency and you are
guaranteed the exact same classes and methods would work
on any platform.

Threads, built right into "language", actually JVM,
are real cool.

Language is really rich. There is so much built right in,
such as Collections (lists, maps, trees, sets, etc.)
are real good. Plus there are several sorting algorithms
built right into language.

There are some other REALLY nice things about it,
and there are some things that suck big time,
just like with anything else.

>-- David

Jonathan Wood

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Jan 2, 2009, 11:19:35 AM1/2/09
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"Labyrinth" <en...@exit.here> wrote in message
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>>Ah, a lightweight. Carry on...
>
> Again the buzzowrds and one liners,
> UTTERLY devoid of any meaning?

Just to clarify, there were points of information in my original post in
this thread. But your response to my post had absolutely none! In fact, it
even seemed confused about who said what. So, yes, my response to that
thread did not have anything meaningful.

Some of your comments even suggested you wanted to threaten me. Well, I'm in
Utah bud--and I can take care of myself if you want to come out.

Other than that, if you want to promote your site, I suggest you improve
your skills at handling criticism--of which none initially came from me!
Otherwise, you'll put people off. I'm not interested in retrying your site.
And I'm done with this thread.

Jonathan

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 7:21:56 PM1/2/09
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In article <OO8XoXPb...@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, "Jonathan Wood" <jw...@softcircuits.com> wrote:
>"Labyrinth" <en...@exit.here> wrote in message
>news:gjl02l$29b$3...@news.albasani.net...
>
>>>Ah, a lightweight. Carry on...
>>
>> Again the buzzowrds and one liners,
>> UTTERLY devoid of any meaning?
>
>Just to clarify, there were points of information in my original post in
>this thread. But your response to my post had absolutely none! In fact, it
>even seemed confused about who said what. So, yes, my response to that
>thread did not have anything meaningful.
>
>Some of your comments even suggested you wanted to threaten me.

Wut?

Are you serious?

>Well, I'm in
>Utah bud--and I can take care of myself if you want to come out.

Well, poor you, if these are the kinds of thoughts you have
in your mind.

I thought you are an expert, but you seem to talk like a bully.

Where's that lits!

>Other than that, if you want to promote your site, I suggest you improve
>your skills at handling criticism--of which none initially came from me!

My friend (:--}), get down to business, willya?
I just have no time to waste on idle chatter, blame,
and especially "threat" related blubber, which is nothing
but loonacy to me.

Do you have the SPECIFIC, point by point issues you wish
to present?

What is the very substance of your claims?

>Otherwise, you'll put people off. I'm not interested in retrying your site.
>And I'm done with this thread.

:--}

You must be da real "expert" then.

Zo, da lits is handy. All it takes is one semicolon.

See ya.
>Jonathan
>

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 9:54:11 PM1/2/09
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I am dissapointed.

>-- David

Labyrinth

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Jan 2, 2009, 9:58:14 PM1/2/09
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He looks like a big boss, but not quite an expert
from what I see.


Java MFC Goldmine collections contain over 50,000 articles
on Java, C, C++, C#, VC and MFC in over 50 categories.

Tens of thousands of code snippets and examples,
expert opinions and views and tons of relevant links
on each category.

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jason.c...@gmail.com

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Jan 2, 2009, 10:54:46 PM1/2/09
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It's actually not that great of a site, for a couple of reasons, some
dealing with the site itself, other dealing with the author.

The content on the site is vaguely indexed into general categories but
is otherwise an unsearchable glob of random forum posts and bits of
source code pulled off of MSDN newsgroups and other limited sources.
It provides no advantage over visiting your search engine of choice
and typing the keywords you are looking for. In fact, it does not even
provide an advantage over simply browsing through the newsgroups
themselves, as it provides you only with lists of out-of-context links
and out-of-order posts, with no threading and no organization of any
bits of information you may stumble upon.

The site is simply yet another scraper site plus a bit of AdSense on
the front pages. It's reminiscent of scraper sites like Encyclocentral
and other such garbage that clutters search engine results, making the
description on the front page amusingly ironic:

"NewsMaestro is a result of years of work and research in an effort to
find a way to reduce the information overload and extract the most
valuable information from the raw information streams. We are
constantly bombarded with tremendous amounts of information, vast
majority of which is pure garbage. Human mind can not possibly digest
this flood of garbage. At the same time, we always need quality
information. When we use regular search engines, we are presented with
99% garbage information. It takes a lot of time and effort to sift
through it in order to find the information we are looking for."

It appears to be nothing more than a bunch of HTML pages generated by
somebody's data mining equivalent of "Hello World". While it's an
admirable attempt, the author's poor attitude negates any positive
comments that could be made about the site.

The author himself does not appear to be proud enough of his content
to put his own name on it. This seems minor but gives what could be a
legitimate site the feel of yet another generated MFA scraper site
that engines like Google will ultimately filter as unwanted clutter
and relegate to page 30 of any reasonable set of search results.

Additionally, the author's tendency to post immature responses such as
calling somebody a "donkeyass" and otherwise generally behaving like a
slightly post-pubescent male does not give his work the air of
credibility that he may expect. Recent trolling behavior on other
threads in comp.lang.c++ do not help his cause, and for the most part
make it nearly impossible to view his site seriously. The rather large
cross-post is a bit of a nuisance as well (additionally, discussions
of MFC are off-topic in both c.l.c and c.l.c++, but even more so in
c.l.c).

That said, the site could be going in a good direction. The addition
of a search feature, threaded topics, and context information around
each category's list of extracted links could, in fact, make the site
quite useful. The concept of grouping by category rather than by
newsgroup (although the grouping needs quite a good amount of work, I
see more than a few miscategorized pages) is interesting, as well as
the idea of extracting links from posts (displaying an contextless
list of raw URLs, however, is not useful). A more positive and
professional attitude on the part of the anonymous author would also
serve to make a better impression on potential users. In it's current
state, and given the author's attitude, the site is, indeed, crap.

Jason

JC

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Jan 3, 2009, 1:08:54 AM1/3/09
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On Jan 2, 10:54 pm, "jason.cipri...@gmail.com"

Adding to this, the author, "Labyrinth" seems to have canceled all of
his messages in this thread. The full archive including original posts
is available here for reference:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.c/browse_frm/thread/cd8333fd25b20df2

Richard Heathfield

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Jan 3, 2009, 2:45:48 AM1/3/09
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Labyrinth said:

> In article <Zqidnc8gWoZdMsDU...@bt.com>,
> r...@see.sig.invalid wrote:
>>Labyrinth said:
>>
>><snip>
>>
>>> even though they pump their chests
>>> like Alexander Da Great, Napoleon or Adolph Hitler.
>>
>>Godwin's Law applies - you just lost your argument.
>
> First of all, I have no argument.

Neither do you have the power to persuade.

> I am too busy for that stuff.

And you're no good at it anyway.

> You can aruge here all day long, till your nose goes blue.
> Doesn't matter to me.

Nor does your site matter to this newsgroup.

> Just don't get nasty.

Pointing out your nastiness doesn't count as nastiness, IMHO.

<snip>

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