Need a hand~

Dorje

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Mar 30, 2010, 12:23:34 PM3/30/10

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Hi, all,
I can not freely access the website of google group, so I want to know
how
to public a topic and reply a specific topic by using gmail or any
other email， many
thanks~

Andrew Poelstra

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Mar 30, 2010, 12:50:22 PM3/30/10

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This is Usenet, which is a different protocal (NNTP) than email
(SMTP). Your ISP probably has a newsserver you can use to post
messages, plus there are a number of free ones on the Internet.

It is pretty hard to find a worse interface than Google's. At
the very least, others will not pretend that they "own" Usenet
and brand it using their own "Groups" service.

--
Andrew Poelstra
http://www.wpsoftware.net/andrew

Dorje

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Mar 30, 2010, 1:41:30 PM3/30/10

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On Mar 31, 12:50 am, Andrew Poelstra <apoels...@localhost.localdomain>
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Thank you for your help~

dingjiu

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Mar 30, 2010, 2:48:06 PM3/30/10

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I have fixed this problem~
"Dorje" <dingji...@gmail.com> д��Ϣ��:59532037-c3ef-44aa...@l25g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

Keith Thompson

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Mar 30, 2010, 4:26:37 PM3/30/10

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Andrew Poelstra <apoe...@localhost.localdomain> writes:
> On 2010-03-30, Dorje <dingji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can not freely access the website of google group, so I want to know
>> how
>> to public a topic and reply a specific topic by using gmail or any

>> other emailï¼Œ many

>> thanks~
>
> This is Usenet, which is a different protocal (NNTP) than email
> (SMTP). Your ISP probably has a newsserver you can use to post
> messages, plus there are a number of free ones on the Internet.

Most ISPs don't have news servers these days. But yes, there are some
good free ones (I use news.eternal-september.org; aioe.org is also
pretty good).

You'll need an NNTP client; there are a number of good free ones.
Many e-mail clients also support NNTP (Thunderbird does, for example).

> It is pretty hard to find a worse interface than Google's. At
> the very least, others will not pretend that they "own" Usenet
> and brand it using their own "Groups" service.

Actually, there are a number of other sites that do just that. A
Google search on some topic I've posted on sometimes turns up one of
my own articles in a forum I've never heard of, with no obvious
indication that it was actually posted to Usenet.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) ks...@mib.org <http://www.ghoti.net/~kst>
Nokia
"We must do something. This is something. Therefore, we must do this."
-- Antony Jay and Jonathan Lynn, "Yes Minister"

August Karlstrom

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Mar 30, 2010, 4:49:25 PM3/30/10

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Andrew Poelstra wrote:
> It is pretty hard to find a worse interface than Google's. At
> the very least, others will not pretend that they "own" Usenet
> and brand it using their own "Groups" service.

You may wonder if they consider this to be in line with the motto "Don't
be evil".

August

Andrew Poelstra

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Mar 30, 2010, 5:19:15 PM3/30/10

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On 2010-03-30, Keith Thompson <ks...@mib.org> wrote:
> Andrew Poelstra <apoe...@localhost.localdomain> writes:
>> On 2010-03-30, Dorje <dingji...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I can not freely access the website of google group, so I want to know
>>> how
>>> to public a topic and reply a specific topic by using gmail or any
>>> other emailï¼Œ many
>>> thanks~
>>
>> This is Usenet, which is a different protocal (NNTP) than email
>> (SMTP). Your ISP probably has a newsserver you can use to post
>> messages, plus there are a number of free ones on the Internet.
>
> Most ISPs don't have news servers these days. But yes, there are some
> good free ones (I use news.eternal-september.org; aioe.org is also
> pretty good).
>

Hmm. I remember overhearing (over-reading?) somebody here suggesting
that someone else check his ISP for a newsserver. It turns out myISP
does have one; and had that person not suggested checking into it,
I probably wouldn't have ever known.

(I use Shaw Communications.)

> You'll need an NNTP client; there are a number of good free ones.
> Many e-mail clients also support NNTP (Thunderbird does, for example).
>
>> It is pretty hard to find a worse interface than Google's. At
>> the very least, others will not pretend that they "own" Usenet
>> and brand it using their own "Groups" service.
>
> Actually, there are a number of other sites that do just that. A
> Google search on some topic I've posted on sometimes turns up one of
> my own articles in a forum I've never heard of, with no obvious
> indication that it was actually posted to Usenet.
>

I've noticed that, but I'm not sure that you can actually /post/
from these "archival" sites.