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Australian Startup looking for C/C++ Engineers - GENEROUS $$$

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pe...@geckoaudio.com

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Apr 12, 2006, 11:21:01 PM4/12/06
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Apologies for the blatant misuse of the group but this may well be of
interest to a lot of people here.

We are looking for the following. Must be able to work in Sydney,
Australia.

- Senior software eng: 5 years+ experience in C/C++; embedded
experience; Linux experience necessary (kernel level would be nice);
audio +DSP experience highly valued but not necessary

- Senior software eng: 5 years+ experience in C/C++; GUI experience
necessary on Windows + all standard Windows related themes such as MFC,
.NET, COM, etc; Win CE highly desirable; Linux GUI development highly
desirable

- TCP/IP software eng: 5 years+ experience in C/C++; TCP/IP software
development experience on Windows; all standard Windows related themes
such as MFC, .NET, etc

- Test engineer with 5 years+ experience testing large scale C/C++
software systems

- Embedded Linux specialist with kernel and device driver experienc

Please contact peter (at) geckoaudio (dot) com.

Keith Thompson

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Apr 12, 2006, 11:31:44 PM4/12/06
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pe...@geckoaudio.com writes:
> Apologies for the blatant misuse of the group
[...]

Not accepted. Your first thought after "blatant misuse of the group"
should have been "so I'm not going to post".

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pe...@geckoaudio.com

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Apr 13, 2006, 12:05:44 AM4/13/06
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I completely understand where you're coming from Keith. I spend a lot
of time on com.arch.fpga and hate deliberate spamming of the group. I
do believe there is a difference between product spam etc. and posting
a unique (and this is very unique) job opportunity, which will provide
significant and obvious benefits to potential applicants (as well as my
company).

I did very clearly indicate the purpose of the post in the header to
reduce wasting people's time as much as possible.

Ed Prochak

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Apr 13, 2006, 12:36:51 AM4/13/06
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BUT you went and spammed anyway.
comp.jobs is appropriate.

Newsgroups are organized by topic and your post was clearly OFF topic,
and worse was you knew it.
These aren't AOL chat rooms.

If you want to keep some respect, you will apologize and never do it
again.
Ed

Richard Heathfield

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Apr 13, 2006, 4:02:54 AM4/13/06
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peter@<elided>.com said:

> Apologies for the blatant misuse of the group but this may well be of
> interest to a lot of people here.

Peter, I'd just like to apologise for wasting your time with this reply, but
it may well interest a lot of people here to learn that Turing worked out
some reaction-diffusion equations that have been used to predict changes in
marking patterns on adult angelfish.

> We are looking for the following. Must be able to work in Sydney,
> Australia.

I suggest using an Australian jobs group, then, not an international
technical newsgroup.

> - Senior software eng: 5 years+ experience in C/C++;

No such language - although I'm working on that. And even if there were such
a language, it wouldn't be topical here.

> GUI experience
> necessary on Windows + all standard Windows related themes such as MFC,
> .NET, COM, etc;

Make your mind up - MFC is a pig's breakfast, which is one of the reasons MS
came up with .NET in the first place. Nobody uses MFC if they have .NET
available. And .NET - whilst being a whole bunch better than MFC - is still
just a joke.

> Win CE highly desirable;

No, it really isn't. Look more carefully at the name. Remove the space if
need be.

And now go spam somewhere else, please. Not here. Ever.

--
Richard Heathfield
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29/7/1999
http://www.cpax.org.uk
email: rjh at above domain (but drop the www, obviously)

Chris Hills

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Apr 13, 2006, 4:15:40 AM4/13/06
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In article <1144903011.0...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Ed
Prochak <edpr...@gmail.com> writes

Calm down.

We get spamed from blatant product and company marketing emails and few
complain.

This job spec did state country and use a real company email address.
As the OP said they were very clear in the subject line so as not to
waste people's time. Keith and Ed seem to have too much time on their
hands :-)

I have not see this sort of response when other companies do it. Why
pick on this one?

At least this advert started with an apology and they are aware of the
situation so they are not likely to do multiple posts. The subject
matter is very much on topic for most of the readership and I am sure
there are many in that part of the world who would be interested.

Next time you need a job you may well be very thankful of a post like
this.

I have noticed that this NG in particular seems to have a small group of
holier than thou self appointed thought police with nothing better to do
than nit pick on what they consider to be OT subjects.

I note there was no similar outcry on c.l.c++

Relax you will live longer.


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Richard Heathfield

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Apr 13, 2006, 4:46:14 AM4/13/06
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Chris Hills said:

> I have not see this sort of response when other companies do it.

Yeah, we're kinda short-staffed here.

We are looking for the following: 6 spam cops and 2 senior spam cops.

Location: Must be able to work in Sydney, Australia, New York, New York,
Miami, Florida, Peking, China, London, England, Paris, France, or indeed
anywhere in the world or in orbit around it.

Salary: We value our employees. Therefore, we will pay all successful
candidates as much as we pay the comp.lang.c Anti-Spam Director.

- Senior spam cop: 5+ years experience in comp.lang.c; aggrieved reproach
experience necessary; experience in keeping things light-hearted is
desirable but not a requirement.

- Spam cop: 3+ years experience in comp.lang.c; aggrieved reproach
experience desirable, but can train.

Please contact news:comp.lang.c if you are interested.

Martin Ambuhl

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Apr 13, 2006, 10:36:03 AM4/13/06
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Richard Heathfield wrote:

> Make your mind up - MFC is a pig's breakfast,

I had not been exposed to this idiom. The similar one that I know is
"dog's breakfast," sometimes given as "dog's dinner". I see that
Jonathon Green lists "pig's breakfast" as having the same meaning.
Thank you for the additional form. Is its use regional?

Richard Heathfield

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Apr 13, 2006, 11:00:46 AM4/13/06
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Martin Ambuhl said:

Well, I must admit I assumed it was international. I'm not aware of any
regional differences within the UK - IME it's more common than "dog's
breakfast", right around the country.

Glarking the meaning is, of course, simplicity itself, so there is no real
barrier to anyone using it if they wish, confident in the knowledge that
their intent will be understood.

Al Balmer

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Apr 13, 2006, 11:43:52 AM4/13/06
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On 12 Apr 2006 21:05:44 -0700, pe...@geckoaudio.com wrote:

>
>I completely understand where you're coming from Keith. I spend a lot
>of time on com.arch.fpga and hate deliberate spamming of the group. I
>do believe there is a difference between product spam etc. and posting
>a unique (and this is very unique) job opportunity, which will provide
>significant and obvious benefits to potential applicants (as well as my
>company).

You're right, there is a difference. However, they have this in common
- both are unacceptable here.


>
>I did very clearly indicate the purpose of the post in the header to
>reduce wasting people's time as much as possible.

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Sun City, AZ

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Apr 13, 2006, 12:19:49 PM4/13/06
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pe...@geckoaudio.com wrote:

>
> I completely understand where you're coming from Keith. I spend a lot
> of time on com.arch.fpga and hate deliberate spamming of the group. I
> do believe there is a difference between product spam etc. and posting
> a unique (and this is very unique) job opportunity, which will provide
> significant and obvious benefits to potential applicants (as well as
> my company).

How many companies around the world have C or C++ job opportunities.
10? 100? 1000? 10,000?

Should all these be posting here? What would the newsgroup look like?
Would anybody be left?


Brian

Ed Prochak

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Apr 14, 2006, 12:54:53 PM4/14/06
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Chris Hills wrote:
> In article <1144903011.0...@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Ed
> Prochak <edpr...@gmail.com> writes
> >
> >pe...@geckoaudio.com wrote:
> >> I completely understand where you're coming from Keith. I spend a lot
> >> of time on com.arch.fpga and hate deliberate spamming of the group. I
> >> do believe there is a difference between product spam etc. and posting
> >> a unique (and this is very unique) job opportunity, which will provide
> >> significant and obvious benefits to potential applicants (as well as my
> >> company).
> >>
> >> I did very clearly indicate the purpose of the post in the header to
> >> reduce wasting people's time as much as possible.
> >
> >BUT you went and spammed anyway.
> >comp.jobs is appropriate.
> >
> >Newsgroups are organized by topic and your post was clearly OFF topic,
> >and worse was you knew it.
> >These aren't AOL chat rooms.
> >
> >If you want to keep some respect, you will apologize and never do it
> >again.
> > Ed
>
> Calm down.

Who said I wasn't calm. My response was informative and direct, but not
abusive.


>
> We get spamed from blatant product and company marketing emails and few
> complain.

but maybe we should.

>
> This job spec did state country and use a real company email address.
> As the OP said they were very clear in the subject line so as not to
> waste people's time. Keith and Ed seem to have too much time on their
> hands :-)

My purpose was to inform mot just Peter, but also other readers and
potential mis-posters. Groups are TOPIC organized. Some groups give
more leeway than others, but off topic is off topic. Tech groups tend
to be more strict than others, but all groups do this (banish off topic
posts, or trolls or spammers) on an irregular basis.

>
> I have not see this sort of response when other companies do it. Why
> pick on this one?

Peter was just lucky.

>
> At least this advert started with an apology and they are aware of the
> situation so they are not likely to do multiple posts. The subject
> matter is very much on topic for most of the readership and I am sure
> there are many in that part of the world who would be interested.

But 99% of the readers of this group are not "in that part of the
world".
And IMHO, his apology makes his post worse in the sense he KNOWS it
doesn't belong.

I've seen newbie job posts in some groups and I sent the posters email
letting them know why they were off topic. Several of them sent back
apologies and were grateful for the information. That earned serious
respect in my view.

>
> Next time you need a job you may well be very thankful of a post like
> this.

When I am job hunting, I visit the jobs groups.
A post like Peter's also serves as a warning. If the company does not
respect me as a potential employee, how much less respect will I get
after being hired?

>
> I have noticed that this NG in particular seems to have a small group of
> holier than thou self appointed thought police with nothing better to do
> than nit pick on what they consider to be OT subjects.

Like Brand names, newsgroups must be defended.
Note we never said Peter should not post at all, just that his post is
in the wrong place. We especially said nothing about what he should
think.

>
> I note there was no similar outcry on c.l.c++

I posted from comp.lang.c I don't pretend to speak for other groups.

>
> Relax you will live longer.

I am very relaxed. If you think my post was not relaxed you have a very
low threshold for stress. Try visiting some other groups.
misc.transport.trucking should open your eyes to what can happen.

Have a great day.
Ed

Rod Pemberton

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Apr 14, 2006, 2:13:48 PM4/14/06
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"Richard Heathfield" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:7YSdnaXSBeQ...@bt.com...

> Martin Ambuhl said:
>
> > Richard Heathfield wrote:
> >
> >> Make your mind up - MFC is a pig's breakfast,
> >
> > I had not been exposed to this idiom. The similar one that I know is
> > "dog's breakfast," sometimes given as "dog's dinner". I see that
> > Jonathon Green lists "pig's breakfast" as having the same meaning.
> > Thank you for the additional form. Is its use regional?
>
> Well, I must admit I assumed it was international. I'm not aware of any
> regional differences within the UK - IME it's more common than "dog's
> breakfast", right around the country.
>

I've never heard that in America. Americans tend to use vulgar acronyms:
POS, FUBAR to describe M$ products they find unpleasant. (POS=piece of shi_,
FUBAR=fu__ed up beyond all recognition)

> Glarking the meaning is, of course, simplicity itself, so there is no real
> barrier to anyone using it if they wish, confident in the knowledge that
> their intent will be understood.

Glarking? What does that mean? "determining," perhaps?


Rod Pemberton


Vladimir S. Oka

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Apr 14, 2006, 4:05:02 PM4/14/06
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Rod Pemberton opined:

>
> "Richard Heathfield" <inv...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:7YSdnaXSBeQ...@bt.com...
>
>> Glarking the meaning is, of course, simplicity itself, so there is
>> no real barrier to anyone using it if they wish, confident in the
>> knowledge that their intent will be understood.
>
> Glarking? What does that mean? "determining," perhaps?

From the Free Dictionary:

glark - /glark/ To figure something out from context.
<snip>
Interestingly, the word was originally "glork";
<snip>
It is conjectured that hackish usage mutated the
verb to "glark" because glork was already an
established jargon term.

Full entry at: http://computing-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/glark

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I only coded it."
(Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a posting)

<http://clc-wiki.net/wiki/Introduction_to_comp.lang.c>


appetency...@gmail.com

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Dec 9, 2019, 9:25:56 PM12/9/19
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We are recruiting for the below C++ Developer role for a Fortune 200 client in Melbourne Australia

Dandenong @ Software Engineer
Apply via@ https://www.appetencyrecruitment.com.au/49ad5d55/information-technology-jobs/software-engineer-dandenong-south.php

MUST HAVE full Australia working rights
If interested, please apply

Appetency Recruitment Services @ 03 8560 3750

mark.b...@gmail.com

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Dec 10, 2019, 3:55:32 AM12/10/19
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On Tuesday, 10 December 2019 02:25:56 UTC, appetency...@gmail.com wrote:
> We are recruiting for the below C++ Developer role for a Fortune 200
> client in Melbourne Australia

But you're not competent enough to spam an appropriate group - well done!
Interesting that a Fortune 200 client would hire a recruiter that doesn't
have their own mail domain...

jacob...@gmail.com

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Dec 12, 2019, 4:41:37 PM12/12/19
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Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 22:05:02 UTC+2, Vladimir Oka a écrit :

THE DATE OF YOUR MACHINE IS MORE THAN 13 YEARS WRONG

Kenny McCormack

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Dec 12, 2019, 5:14:01 PM12/12/19
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In article <2f4b9601-ecd8-4c77...@googlegroups.com>,
<jacob...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Le vendredi 14 avril 2006 22:05:02 UTC+2, Vladimir Oka a écrit :
>
>THE DATE OF YOUR MACHINE IS MORE THAN 13 YEARS WRONG

That's probably why the plea for programmers - to come in and fix things
for them.

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