Oil

[Rick C. Hodgin]

oil, n. Dinosaurs. #atheism #evolution

--

Thank you,
Rick C. Hodgin

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On 1/20/2018 3:15 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> oil, n. Dinosaurs. #atheism #evolution

I did not write the post above. It came from a criminal online
identity thief and outright coward. Examine the headers and you
will know the truth about who writes which posts under my name
and identity.

--
Thank you! | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9
Rick C. Hodgin | http://www.libsf.org/ | http://tinyurl.com/yaogvqhj
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[Rick C. Hodgin]

On 20/01/2018 20:37, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 1/20/2018 3:15 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> oil, n. Dinosaurs. #atheism #evolution
>
> I did not write the post above.  It came from a criminal online
> identity thief and outright coward.  Examine the headers and you
> will know the truth about who writes which posts under my name
> and identity.
>

I did not write the above reply; it came from a God bothering mentalist.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

If any of you would like to have Leigh Johnston stop posting under my
identity please contact ab...@giganews.com. I have reported fifteen
such instances to their abuse department and was told there was nothing
they could do.

If enough people who aren't me complain I'm guessing that will change.

If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
group, please obtain the headers from these posts He posts (you can
identify them as they come from GigaNews.com) and send email to
ab...@giganews.com about the spam he's posting, and about how he
is impersonating another user.

If enough people complain it may result in these posts ceasing.

[Mr Flibble]

On 20/01/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
> group

Your lack of any sense of irony is astonishing.

/Flibble

--
"Suppose it’s all true, and you walk up to the pearly gates, and are
confronted by God," Bryne asked on his show The Meaning of Life. "What
will Stephen Fry say to him, her, or it?"
"I’d say, bone cancer in children? What’s that about?" Fry replied.
"How dare you? How dare you create a world to which there is such misery
that is not our fault. It’s not right, it’s utterly, utterly evil."
"Why should I respect a capricious, mean-minded, stupid God who creates
a world that is so full of injustice and pain. That’s what I would say."

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:16:07 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
> > group
>
> Your lack of any sense of irony is astonishing.

I have no problem with you disagreeing with me completely, and
insulting me every day as Peter Cheung has done, for example.

The issue I have with you is that you are a coward and you are
impersonating me online, doing harm to my good name.

It's one of the worst and meanest things a person can do to
another person. And it's cowardly beyond words.

I feel sad for you, Leigh. And I will continue to pray for you.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Mr Flibble]

I repeat to you what I have said several times already: if you want the
satirical posts to stop then simply stop spamming this technical
newsgroup with your religious nonsense.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:29:07 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 21:26, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:16:07 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> >> On 20/01/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >>> If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
> >>> group
> >>
> >> Your lack of any sense of irony is astonishing.
> >
> > I have no problem with you disagreeing with me completely, and
> > insulting me every day as Peter Cheung has done, for example.
> >
> > The issue I have with you is that you are a coward and you are
> > impersonating me online, doing harm to my good name.
> >
> > It's one of the worst and meanest things a person can do to
> > another person. And it's cowardly beyond words.
> >
> > I feel sad for you, Leigh. And I will continue to pray for you.
>
> I repeat to you what I have said several times already: if you want the
> satirical posts to stop then simply stop spamming this technical
> newsgroup with your religious nonsense.

You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
pay.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Mr Flibble]

On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>
> You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
> to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
> doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
> pay.

There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming

this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.

[Ian Collins]

On 01/21/2018 10:50 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>
>> You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
>> to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
>> doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
>> pay.
>
> There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming
> this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.

Widely shared irritation. Repeated spamming is one of the worst and
meanest things a person can do to Usenet.

--
Ian.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >
> > You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
> > to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
> > doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
> > pay.
>
> There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming
> this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.

Have you ever considered the possibility that my posts aren't as you
indicate? That maybe they offer you more than you realize today,
making them not negative, but rather something most desirable?

Regardless, the message is given for those who will be saved. It
is not given for other people. Nonetheless, I don't know who will
be saved and who won't be. So, I teach everyone equally. Even you,
Leigh. And even you, Ian. Even Peter Cheung and others.

I used to be a non-believer making fun of people as you do, Leigh.
In 2004, I came to faith unexpectedly. I wasn't looking for faith.
I was looking to discount the entire Bible as a joke. But, in my
quest to do so I honestly and truly, deep within my heart, wanted
to get a true and proper understanding of its teachings so I could
refute them.

By my setting my sights solidly on understanding the truth of its
teaching properly, God saw my intent and gave me that knowledge,
which drew me to His Son, and I asked forgiveness for my sin and
was saved.

You don't know what is in your future, Leigh. I had NO IDEA I
would be saved. My wife, who I married in 2001 when we were both
unsaved and living a particular lifestyle, is still not saved to
this day despite years of teaching.

Salvation only comes when you seek the truth. It doesn't come
from other pursuits.

If you take nothing away from any of these posts, chalking them
all up to "religious nonsense," then please take that way:

ALL I ASK YOU TO DO IS SEEK THE TRUTH!

How can you POSSIBLY argue against that?

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Rick C. Hodgin]

Unless you come to faith sooner, you will continue to hold to that
mindset and belief until the day you die. Only then, when the lie
you've clung to throughout your life is finally shed when you leave
this world of sin behind, and you are standing in your new body in
the judgment court before God, then knowing the truth, only then
will you see that what I tried to teach you was not only not "religious
spam," but it was the very lifeline you rejected.

I pray that day never comes for you, but that you come to seek the
truth before that day. You are valuable, Ian, and I would like to
see you in Heaven, rather than cast into Hell.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Mr Flibble]

One man's so called truth is another man's fiction. Now fuck off.

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 5:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 22:05, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > If you take nothing away from any of these posts, chalking them
> > all up to "religious nonsense," then please take that way:
> >
> > ALL I ASK YOU TO DO IS SEEK THE TRUTH!
> >
> > How can you POSSIBLY argue against that?
>
> One man's so called truth is another man's fiction. Now fuck off.

No, Leigh. Truth is absolutely fundamental. It is THE component by
which the entire universe has been created. Everything here works by
that foundation. It's why God is casting all sin into a confinement
place called Hell.

Only truth will endure unto eternity, and Jesus is our only way to be
translated into being sin-free.

I ask you to seek the truth. To consider the possibility that you
are wrong, and that there may be something you don't know. To then
examine the facts before you and seek the truth in them, seeking a
true understanding of what's being conveyed, rather than shooting
it down before it is able to speak or make its case.

Are you afraid of the truth, Leigh? Afraid to give the Bible an
honest seeking? Afraid you might find your current world view is
wrong, and that you have been wrong, and that I am teaching you that
which is truth, and have been despite all of your mocking and hate?

SEEK
THE
TRUTH,
LEIGH.

That is all I ask. Seek it for real. Seek it wholly.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[Ian Collins]

On 01/21/2018 11:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:59:36 PM UTC-5, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 01/21/2018 10:50 AM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>>> On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
>>>> to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
>>>> doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
>>>> pay.
>>>
>>> There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming
>>> this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.
>>
>> Widely shared irritation. Repeated spamming is one of the worst and
>> meanest things a person can do to Usenet.
>

> Unless you come to faith sooner...

Which one? there are hundreds to choose form all with devotees as
obsessive as you.

If you walked into a programmer's meeting and started your
proselytising, you would be asked to leave. If you refused, you would
be shown the door. Unfortunately Usenet doesn't have a door...

--
Ian.

[Mr Flibble]

On 20/01/2018 22:16, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 01/21/2018 11:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> Unless you come to faith sooner...
>
> Which one? there are hundreds to choose form all with devotees as
> obsessive as you.

+1

>
> If you walked into a programmer's meeting and started your
> proselytising, you would be asked to leave.  If you refused, you would
> be shown the door.  Unfortunately Usenet doesn't have a door...

+1

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 1/20/2018 12:37 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 1/20/2018 3:15 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> oil, n. Dinosaurs. #atheism #evolution
>
> I did not write the post above.  It came from a criminal online
> identity thief and outright coward.  Examine the headers and you
> will know the truth about who writes which posts under my name
> and identity.
>

A noiseless patient Spider
Rick C. Hodgin Enterprises

Humm...

[Mr Flibble]

On 20/01/2018 22:15, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 5:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On 20/01/2018 22:05, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> If you take nothing away from any of these posts, chalking them
>>> all up to "religious nonsense," then please take that way:
>>>
>>> ALL I ASK YOU TO DO IS SEEK THE TRUTH!
>>>
>>> How can you POSSIBLY argue against that?
>>
>> One man's so called truth is another man's fiction. Now fuck off.
>

> Are you afraid of the truth, Leigh? Afraid to give the Bible an
> honest seeking? Afraid you might find your current world view is
> wrong, and that you have been wrong, and that I am teaching you that
> which is truth, and have been despite all of your mocking and hate?
>
> SEEK
> THE
> TRUTH,
> LEIGH.
>
> That is all I ask. Seek it for real. Seek it wholly.

You are simply asserting that what you believe is true; you have no
evidence to backup such as assertion. There are many others who also
assert that their particular beliefs are also true and you are no
different to them.

There is on the other hand tons of evidence that the Bible is simply a
book of fiction.

So I repeat my request: kindly fuck off.

[Ian Collins]

On 01/21/2018 11:15 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 5:08:34 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On 20/01/2018 22:05, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> If you take nothing away from any of these posts, chalking them
>>> all up to "religious nonsense," then please take that way:
>>>
>>> ALL I ASK YOU TO DO IS SEEK THE TRUTH!
>>>
>>> How can you POSSIBLY argue against that?
>>
>> One man's so called truth is another man's fiction. Now fuck off.
>
> No, Leigh. Truth is absolutely fundamental. It is THE component by
> which the entire universe has been created. Everything here works by
> that foundation. It's why God is casting all sin into a confinement
> place called Hell.
>
> Only truth will endure unto eternity, and Jesus is our only way to be
> translated into being sin-free.
>
> I ask you to seek the truth.

Truth is a many edged sword.

--

"Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an
all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you
saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in
an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide
with a God who's full of mercy" - David Attenborough

[Chris M. Thomasson]

On 1/20/2018 1:26 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:16:07 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On 20/01/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
>>> group
>>
>> Your lack of any sense of irony is astonishing.
>
> I have no problem with you disagreeing with me completely, and
> insulting me every day as Peter Cheung has done, for example.
>
> The issue I have with you is that you are a coward and you are
> impersonating me online, doing harm to my good name.
>
> It's one of the worst and meanest things a person can do to
> another person.

Really? The following adversary is pretty nasty:

The Church of Zork, Put a Zorkmid in the Box!

https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/cruel_puppet.html

Please, try to post some C++ here. For instance, you can create some C++
code for a database that reads the Bible along with the Strong's
Concordance relationships?


Lets post some religious dogma of the Church of Zork! Put a dollar in
the box. Oh, I meant Zorkmid, sorry:
___________________
Few creatures are more despised than the cruel puppet, one which uses
its power not for good, evil or profit, but simply to hurt people's
feelings. Staunch monarchs have been reduced to tears by these merciless
shapeshifters; for it attacks by twisting itself into unflattering
caricatures of its opponents, accompanied by jeers, rude noises and
shocking accusations--which include the recital of nightly personal
habits in excruciating detail, accusing its adversary's mother of
shocking improprieties, reminding of weight gain, etc. They have also
been known to practice existential put downs. "You're so ugly you're
probably the creation of an unseen master who is controlling and shaping
the world around you. Nothing is real and nothing you do will have any
lasting effect on those around you. Welcome to the dark night of your
soul" is but one example. More often, however, they just insult your
knees. Insulting the cruel puppet in return is futile, for it feeds off
of them. Straining to ignore these verbal attacks is the only known
defense.

Residents of Gurth City were warned during the mid-tenth century to keep
away from the Forest of Youth, as it was known home to cruel puppets.

During the Great Monster Uprising of the Second Age of Magic, cruel
puppets were reported in the following regions: The abandoned Casino of
Port Foozle, The Southern Wastes, The Coast Road near Borphee, Pheebor,
Forest of Youth, Gurth Woodland Trail, the Lost Castle of Y'Syska, Crab
Island, Egreth Castle, The Glass Maze, Bozbarland, Largoneth Castle, and
the G.U.E. Tech Training Grounds in the Ethereal Plane of Atrii. Many
perched in trees and other high and covert corners, raining handfuls of
exploding chestnuts down upon luckless adventurers.
___________________

> And it's cowardly beyond words.
>
> I feel sad for you, Leigh. And I will continue to pray for you.
>

Okay... ;^o

Here is a very nasty, powerful, enemy in the Zork, put a dollar in the
box religion:

https://www.thezorklibrary.com/history/jeearr.html
___________________
The ancient and evil force called Jeearr once spread pestilence and
terror across many lands. The demon thrived by literally feeding on war
and suffering. This strange hovering creature had the semblance of a
giant cat with no legs, just a head and a tail stuck onto a huge, furry
ball. But this demon had no whiskers, and the tail looked very powerful
and was covered with suckers like the tentacles of an octopus. Jeearr
was surrounded by a faint light, as though he were not really present,
but merely a projection of some kind (he was impervious to physical
attacks). He spoke in a high-pitched, squeaky voice.

Like most demons, Jeearr could possess a victim by surrounding them like
a cloud and settling comfortably into their skull and seizing control of
mind and body. It would suck all knowledge and magic powers, adding them
to its own. While possessing, Jeearr's form could be described in visual
terms as a giant spider with millions of legs, wrapped around and
feasting on the body and spirit.

Jeearr desired to enslave the people of the land, forcing them to erect
great idols to himself, watching as parents offered up their own
children upon the altars, as the rivers of the land filled with blood.
His wishes never saw fruition. Only the combined magic of many kings and
wizards stopped this great power, even as he was preparing his final
assault. He was imprisoned in the void beyond our world. His jailors
warned future generations that his exile might not be permanent; this
warning was proved to be accurate when Jeearr returned to the Eastlands
during the early years of the reign of Syovar the Strong (c. 888~913
GUE). Grawl, one of the most powerful warlocks of the time, was in
thrall to this demon from the void. Jeearr's possession was the possible
source of its incredible powers.

Jeearr sought to strike just at the point where Syovar was about to call
together all of the city-states to meet for the Conference of Quendor to
sign a peace treaty for one unified Kingdom of Zork. As the conference
approached, a truce between all the warring neighbors had been
observed—but instead of working toward peace, the nations had merely
used this time to build huge armies, poised to attack should the treaty
not be signed. If Syovar was not present at the conference, the treaty
would not be made and Quendor would be merely the prelude to the worst
bloodshed that the Land of Frobozz would have ever seen. That was what
Jeearr planned.

Using his servant Grawl, Jeearr sought to lure Syovar by capturing his
niece and nephew. The demon hoped that he would be able to deceive the
king into thinking that it was Grawl alone who had been seeking revenge,
unaware who the true culprit was behind the ordeal. Syovar took the
bait, going to rescue Bivotar and Juranda from the castle of Grawl.
During a battle of sorcery, Jeearr's protective powers allowed Grawl to
inflict heavy damage upon Syovar before the evil warlock met his end.
With Grawl dead, Jeearr hovered above the body of his servant, then
vanished. Syovar stumbled backward and fell to the ground.

It is still a matter of debate on what exactly occurred here. Due to
Jeearr’s own words in his future 957 GUE defeat, where he stated that he
could not survive without a host, (thus an unknown sorcerer was able to
defeat this demon by preventing him from entering another host) most
theorize that Syovar was possessed at this point by the evil spirit.
Others see this as impossible, as Jeearr frequently appeared to Bivotar
and Juranda to torment them many times apart from both Syovar and
without a host, while they were questing in lands far from the Castle of
Zork. Thus there is still much confusion as to the seemingly
inconsistent nature of Jeearr and the illness of Syovar.

With the king out of comission, Bivotar and Juranda sought the Helm of
Zork, hoping that Syovar's son Logrumethar would be able to use its
shapeshifting powers to assume the appearance of Syovar and still attend
the Conference of Quendor. Otherwise, with the absence of the king, a ar
would spread across the face of Zork—enough fighting and bloodshed to
keep Jeearr fed and powerful for a thousand years.

Along their quest Jeearr spouted riddles (before doing a lazy somersault
in mid-air, laughing curiously, and vanishing), which were actually
great benefactors for finding the Helm of Zork. Although he seemed like
a harmless jokester, the fiend was completely demonic. It is uncertain
why Jeearr assisted them in this manner, if it simply enjoyed taunting
them, hoped to confuse them, or was amusing by prompting them with
little hints.

Once Bivotar and Juranda gained possession of the Helm of Zork in an
ancient castle, Jeearr appeared once last time, speaking this time with
cold hatred and malevolence. Its sucker-covered tail began to whip back
and forth, faster and faster, forming a powerful wind which encircled
the entire castle turret before destroying it. The two adventurers were
narrowly able to escape. The recovery of the Helm of Zork enabled
Logrumethar to assume the form of Syovar and the Treaty of Quendor was
signed, thus thwarting the evil plans of Jeearr.

But the end of the year 957 GUE would see the reemergence of the fiend,
who established his lair in the Griffspotter Caverns in Egreth. The
villain's plot for conquering the world involved manufacturing an army
of millions of light-resistant grues, using infernal machines
conveniently provided by the Frobozz Magic Grue Breeder Company
(luckily, these grues were never released into the world at large).
Other devices seemed to have been designed to aid the forces of evil
while sapping magic powers of Enchanters everywhere. Also within these
caverns, Jeearr built the Chamber of Living Death, and Hall of Eternal
Pain, and another room where which was the control center for the evil
experiments.

The first indications of Jeearr's return can be found in the diary of
the mage Belboz. He wrote in his notebook that the ancient demon's
powers could endanger the Circle and possibly the entire kingdom.
Without consulting any others, Belboz decided to conduct some dangerous
experiments, operating alone to shield the Circle from the perils
involved. In attempting to entrap this demon, these experiments left
Belboz open to his power. He became possessed by the Jeearr’s spirit,
causing Belboz to grow troubled, preoccupied, and withdrawn. This
monstrous creature used Belboz's body as a host, intertwining himself
throughout Belboz's mind. It was in this pathetic condition that Belboz
was forced by Jeearr to leave the Council Hall in Accardi and travel to
Egreth, where he would become the physical embodiment of the demon as he
furthered his plans.

Fortunately for the world, the same Enchanter who defeated Krill found
Jeearr's lair and exorcised him from the body of Belboz with the SWANZO
spell. At this point the demon became a wispy translucent shape that
warned the Enchanter in a deep voice of the inevitability of his epoch
of evil, a reign of terror that would last a thousand thousand years.
Jeearr claimed that he had stolen all of the knowledge and secrets of
Belboz and was ready to put them to use. His plan was foiled when the
VARDIK spell prevented him from entering the body of the Enchanter.
Without a host to feed on, Jeearr could not survive. Thanks to the
cleverness of the Enchanter, Jeearr was left without such a host, and is
gone for all eternity.
___________________

lol.

[Christian Gollwitzer]

Am 20.01.18 um 23:05 schrieb Rick C. Hodgin:

> On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 4:50:41 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>>
>>> You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh. I will continue
>>> to post about Jesus Christ. Consider your actions and future in so
>>> doing. Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
>>> pay.
>>
>> There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming
>> this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.
>
> Have you ever considered the possibility that my posts aren't as you
> indicate? That maybe they offer you more than you realize today,
> making them not negative, but rather something most desirable?
>

BUY A NEW CAR! BEST GERMAN CARS FOR REASONABLE PRICES! LONG ENDURANCE,
LOW CONSUMPTION!
That maybe offers you more than you realize today, as soon as your old
car breaks and the gas prizes go up, making this not negative spam, but
rather something most desirable?

Now consider me posting this over and over with different words, going
on about how you should not drive a car at all, but rather ride on a
bicycle, and go vegan to save the planet.... Even if this is _most
desirable_, it simply has no place in this group because it is *off-topic*.

Christian

[Mel]

Repeating same nonsense all over again is hallmark of lunacy...

> Christian

--
Press any key to continue or any other to quit

[David Brown]

On 20/01/18 22:50, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 21:32, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>
>> You can keep posting all your hate toward me, Leigh.  I will continue
>> to post about Jesus Christ.  Consider your actions and future in so
>> doing.  Your way comes with too heavy a price, one you'll be unable to
>> pay.
>
> There is no hatred, just irritation that you refuse to stop spamming
> this technical newsgroup with your religious nonsense.
>
> /Flibble
>

Rick has promised to use a [Jesus Loves You] tag in all the religious
threads he starts. How about if you, Mr. Flibble, tag threads like this
with [We hate religious spam] ? Then we can all set up filters for your
impersonation threads. I disagree with Rick on most things, and wish he
would stop his religious postings - but I find your imitation postings
much more offensive and annoying, and it is absolutely clear to everyone
that you encourage more of them. Your behaviour here is as childish,
idiotic and counter-productive as Brian's complaints about swearing.

[David Brown]

On 20/01/18 23:18, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 22:16, Ian Collins wrote:
>> On 01/21/2018 11:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>>> Unless you come to faith sooner...
>>
>> Which one? there are hundreds to choose form all with devotees as
>> obsessive as you.
>
> +1
>
>>
>> If you walked into a programmer's meeting and started your
>> proselytising, you would be asked to leave.  If you refused, you would
>> be shown the door.  Unfortunately Usenet doesn't have a door...
>
> +1
>

If you started imitating people and provoking proselytising in a
programmer's meeting, you'd be asked to leave too - even if you are one
of the key speakers with an impressive gui library to discuss.

Please think about what you are doing with posts like the start of this
thread, Mr. Flibble. I fully agree with your desire of stopping
religious proselytising - I totally disagree with your methods here that
are a "cure" worse than the disease.

[bartc]

On 20/01/2018 22:16, Ian Collins wrote:
> On 01/21/2018 11:07 AM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote: >> ...

> If you walked into a programmer's meeting and started your
> proselytising, you would be asked to leave.  If you refused, you would
> be shown the door.  Unfortunately Usenet doesn't have a door...

This isn't a programmer's meeting on private property. This is more like
a corner of a public square where programmers hang out.


--
bartc

[Gareth Owen]

Mr Flibble <flibbleREM...@i42.co.uk> writes:

> On 20/01/2018 21:02, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> If you'd like to see spam from Leigh Johnston stop impacting this
>> group
>
> Your lack of any sense of irony is astonishing.

No its not.

[asetof...@gmail.com]

Do not think that everyone is against you here... I agree that some Cristian religion and proselytism to Bible is not ot

[Mr Flibble]

On 22/01/2018 08:20, asetof...@gmail.com wrote:
> Do not think that everyone is against you here... I agree that some Cristian religion and proselytism to Bible is not ot

In which case you are also a member of the fucktard club.

[Daniel]

On Saturday, January 20, 2018 at 5:27:49 PM UTC-5, Mr Flibble wrote:
> On 20/01/2018 22:15, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> >

> > Are you afraid of the truth ...?

>
> You are simply asserting that what you believe is true; you have no
> evidence to backup such as assertion.
>

For Rick, the "truth" is something that originates inside his head. That's why it's difficult to argue with him, it's hard to argue with what's going on inside his own head. Ultimately, the biblical texts are only important to
him in so far as the voices in his head tell him that they are, if they told
him about some other texts, he'd go with them. Assuming Rick is intelligent,
and there's no reason to think he isn't, and assuming he reads, he'll
almost certainly come across information about many people who hear voices in their heads and that tell them strange things. The great mathematician John Nash was once asked why he believed aliens were trying to contact him
through the classifieds in the New York Times, and he replied that his ideas
about aliens came to him in the same way as his ideas about mathematics, so
he had to take them seriously. Maybe Rick can think about information
like this, and start questioning whether what's happening inside his own
head is real. Or maybe not.

Daniel

[asetof...@gmail.com]

I will speak more, and would organize preaching on Bible: but I am lazy and don't like to speak too much... I think this is one my error

Now as now I would say of save well, old Bibles because the new traductions seems to me not so good; and read only Bible + technical ( Mathematic physic informatics) books; because other book, philosophers the first and news paper have evil thinks

[Rick C. Hodgin]

On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 4:35:53 PM UTC-5, asetof...@gmail.com wrote:
> I will speak more, and would organize preaching on Bible: but I am lazy and don't like to speak too much... I think this is one my error
>
> Now as now I would say of save well, old Bibles because the new traductions seems to me not so good; and read only Bible + technical ( Mathematic physic informatics) books; because other book, philosophers the first and news paper have evil thinks

There's a good bit of research done in the 90s and 00s by Gail Riplinger
(in English):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_7tkC6ZiA
Note: She has many more similar videos recorded over time

She shows many examples of how the God of the Bible is being watered down
and replaced by a lesser God in the newer translations.

When I study the Bible, I typically use:

King James Bible
NIV
Amplified Bible
Young's Literal Translation
Online references for Strong's numbers in Old and New Testaments

By examining these multiple sources, you get a very solid understanding
of the original intent of the passage.

I do warn about the NIV and Amplified Bible, however. They often con-
tain translations that are notably different and even misleading. So,
stick close to the KJV, YLT, and look back to the original Hebrew and
Greek sources to see how various original language words are used
elsewhere in the Bible.

With study and discipline, you get a solid understanding over time.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

[asetof...@gmail.com]

Report something can be useful
translated by google:

Teofilatto

01/23/2018 at 11:38 PM

...It is simply absurd for us Catholics to make sure that they are born again. It is reborn with Baptism. And that's that. The **Creed** says it: Professed ONE ONLY Baptism. Pure madness is also to claim to achieve salvation by grace alone. The Catholic Catechism recites that the presumption to save oneself without merit is a **sin against the Holy Spirit.** If Vito does not share the Catholic doctrine, why does he come to sow discord outside his field?
Theophylact

[asetof...@gmail.com]

Possible I make one error but for me:
It is good one old paper bible catholic 1970 or first possible CEI
*never* follow the river, always be out of our times with old and proved from the time theology, or ideas on religion. For this is important the Catechism of Pio X, and the old tradition of the Roman Catholic Church *first* than Vatican II council

[asetof...@gmail.com]

One nowadays danger is ecumenism that goes against the First Commandment; one other danger is the make The human/humanity as god and adore him/community as God...

[Rick C. Hodgin]

If you study the teachings of Catholicism, compared to the literal
teachings found in the 5,000+ manuscripts used to create the Bible,
where all but around 10 agree with one another, you'll find that many
of the teachings of New Age religions, and aspects of Catholicism,
are taken from the few manuscripts which disagree.

A woman named Gail Riplinger did a study of this where she was able
to see the evolution in time away from the original intent of the
Biblical authors and the Holy Spirit. But God has also promised us
to preserve His Word, for all who will seek the truth that truth can
still be found.

Compare the teachings of the King James Version of the Bible, first
published in in 1611, to modern translations, and you'll see how
explicit and specific the changes in wording are. They are not just
trying to re-write the passages in our modern language without all of
the "thee"s and "ye"s and "sayest thou" type things, but they are
literally changing the intended meaning from the original language:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tR_7tkC6ZiA&t=6m35s

It's rather shocking how subtle the enemy is. But if a person will
press in and seek the truth, God will reach into their life super-
naturally, and personally direct and guide them to the truth.

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Thank you, | Indianapolis, Indiana | God is love -- 1 John 4:7-9
Rick C. Hodgin | http://www.libsf.org/ | http://tinyurl.com/yaogvqhj
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