Re: [Jesus Loves You] Time is approaching

Rick C. Hodgin

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> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies
> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in
> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA.
>
> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this
> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide.
>
> There have already been deaths within hours or days after taking the
> vaccine. Elderly people have died within two hours of getting the
> vaccine. So far they say it's unrelated. But also many people of all
> ages have gotten demonstrably sick after taking it.
>
> In every prior attempt to get this technology authorized for human use,
> it was denied. But now, world-wide it's got the green light.
>
> It's dangerous to blindly accept what those people in power want to give
> you. It's worth being cautious, and waiting if you are not in a high
> health risk group, which most of us aren't.

Note: The words above are cautionary. Be careful. Think.

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I went out to the grocery tonight. It's about 6:30 pm here in Indiana.
And the people were terrified. Nobody would look other people in the
eye. They were avoiding them like the plague. There wasn't even
courteous head bobs and what not between people. Everybody was in full
isolation mode, and nobody save the smallest handful of people who you
could see it in their eyes, had friendliness, or love, or common
courtesy in their dealings with people.

Over the probably 200 people I encountered in the store, 3 were friendly
and cordial.

This world is being transformed by fear into the world that will receive
the mark of the beast during the tribulation.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Timothy%201:7&version=KJV

7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power,
and of love, and of a sound mind.

It's one thing to be cautious, social distance, wear your mask. It's
another thing entirely to lose all semblance of human kindness toward
one another.

I've never seen such a thing in my 51 years on this planet.

> The whole goal comes down to this:
>
>     1) Everybody has sin
>     2) Everybody will face judgment
>     3) Everybody needs Jesus
>     4) Jesus offers forgiveness for sin for free to everybody

I don't many days, weeks, months, years are ahead for Christians on this
planet before the rapture. My money is on a date before May 14, 2021,
but I don't know what day.

Everything is accelerating world-wide toward the one world government
system, and that "revving up" is one of the signs that when we see all
these things together at the same time, and they're getting faster and
faster, Jesus likens it to a woman in labor, the labor pains grow in
frequency and intensity until ... delivery.

Repeat these words before it's too late:

"Dear Heavenly Father, I have sinned. I am guilty before you.
I need a Savior, and I ask you to forgive my sin through the
sacrifice of your Son Jesus on the cross. I ask you to cleanse
me of my sin by His righteous blood shed for me. I believe that
He died, was buried, and on the third day resurrected and is
alive today, seated at the right hand of power and glory. Amen."

Nobody wants to be here on this Earth for what's coming. For most
world-wide, Revelation teaches it will be their terminal end because the
anti-Christ spirit that rises up corrupts everything, resulting in
destruction of everything. Jesus even says if those final days weren't
cut short, no flesh would survive. Not just people, but all flesh,
animals, plants, birds, fish, and people.

"Board the ark" of Jesus Christ. Save yourself from the coming destruction.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Rick C. Hodgin

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On 1/3/21 6:36 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I went out to the grocery tonight. It's about 6:30 pm here in Indiana.
> And the people were terrified. Nobody would look other people in the
> eye. They were avoiding them like the plague. There wasn't even
> courteous head bobs and what not between people. Everybody was in full
> isolation mode, and nobody save the smallest handful of people who you
> could see it in their eyes, had friendliness, or love, or common
> courtesy in their dealings with people.
>
> Over the probably 200 people I encountered in the store, 3 were friendly
> and cordial.

One other thing to note. This was probably encouraged by the PA system
which sounded like a disaster warning. "Shoppers are required to wear
masks at all times. You will not be able to remain in the store without
your mask."

We're all being trained, people. The enemy is teaching you all unaware
that the mark of the beast is the only way to move forward.

I'm going to teach you the truth here:

1) Everyone who takes the mark of the beast is eternally damned.
2) The mark will be something on your right-hand or forehead.
3) Nobody world-wide will be able to buy or sell unless they have
the mark.
4) This will require strong faith to not take it.
5) God promises all who do not take it for His sake will be saved,
though they'll likely have to die (or be killed) for their
faith.

Here are the Bible verses which back that up. The relevant portions are
highlighted with a ==>:

Revelation 13

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013&version=KJV;NASB

1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise
up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and
upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of
blasphemy.
2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his
feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth
of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat,
and great authority.
3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and
his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after
the beast.
4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the
beast? who is able to make war with him?

If you watch the DTBM channel on YouTube, you can find teachings about
what all of these symbols mean. DTBM = Discover The Book Ministries,
John Barnett, an excellent Biblical scholar and teacher.

5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things
and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue
forty and two months.
6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme
his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
==> 7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and
to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds,
and tongues, and nations.
==> 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose
names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain
from the foundation of the world.
9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

All whose names are not written in the Lamb's Book of Life (Jesus' book
of life) will worship the beast. Those who are written in the Lamb's
Book of Life are those who are saved, and they will not worship the beast.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he
that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword.
Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he
had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him,
and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship
the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down
from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

There will be supernatural events happening during this time, but you
must not be deceived. The power of these supernatural events is not of
God, but of the enemy of God. It's purpose is to deceive people with
awe and wonder into believing in him, rather than in God. You must
reject this.

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of
those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the
beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they
should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by
a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast,
that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause
that as many as would not worship the image of the beast
should be killed.
==> 16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor,
free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or
in their foreheads:

"In their right hand, or in their foreheads." That's the mark. And
it's associated with his name, or the number of his name. That's the
tell as to what the mark is. And it will be a conscious choice given to
people. You won't be deceived into taking it thinking it's a flu
vaccine or something. You'll know what it is, and you'll make a
conscious choice.

The DTBM channel talks about a practice like this that took place back
in Rome. A line would form, and people would have to grab some incense
and rub it between their fingers as they poured it out over a flame and
give an acknowledgement that Caesar has all power "Caesar dios" I
believe is what they had to say in their language. All who did this had
their life spared. Those who did not were taken off and burned alive
literally.

Most thought, "It's no big deal. No one I know is here with me in line.
I can just say the words under my breath and live another year." But
God knew their heart, and what they were saying, and not saying.

It is this same type of thing that will be there with this choice. God
will know, and all who take the mark will be damned. There is then no
opportunity a day or week later to repent and undo it. All who take the
mark are eternally damned to Hellfire.

==> 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
==> 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the
number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and
his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

There will be something which aligns with 666 for this mark. You must
follow the devout saints of God and look for the consensus among them.
There are always fringe elements who say this or that, but God's Holy
Spirit is not isolated to small groups. He guides through the
multitude, and His whole church is moved by Him together, so that the
people are moved to pray together, fast together, have common and shared
beliefs, etc.

The next portion about all who take the mark are damned comes from
another chapter:

Revelation 14

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2014&version=KJV;NASB

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and
with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his
Father's name written in their foreheads.
2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters,
and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice
of harpers harping with their harps:
3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and
before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could
learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand,
which were redeemed from the earth.
4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they
are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever
he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the
firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without
fault before the throne of God.

It is believed these 144,000 will be Jews who become the new Christians
after the rapture, as they will be filled with the Holy Spirit as born
again believers are. But during this time, it will be more, because of
a prophesy in Joel that says God will pour out His spirit upon all flesh
in those days, and people will have visions and dreams.

==> 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having
the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the
earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
==> 7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for
the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made
heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.

The beast system will not endure. This happens during the tribulation,
but the system that will provide you the mark of the beast to buy or
sell will not endure.

What will endure, even beyond the grave, is Jesus Christ, the power of
His redemptive blood, and all who put their faith and trust in Him have
eternity in Heaven with God. Those who took the mark, eternity in Hell
in the flames. It is the equivalent of "a lifetime sentence without the
possibility of parole" for an eternal being of unimaginable power and
ability, of which we all are, for we are called "gods" (literally) in
the Psalms, which Jesus also affirms (John 10:34, Psalm 82:6).

This is what the enemy tries to prevent us from achieving. He tries to
get us to focus on stuff here in this world so we miss the true nature
of who we are. God has created us as special beings among all His
creation, made in His own image and likeness (Genesis 1-3), prepared for
us a future that is amazing, dwelling in the place God would create for
Himself, a place of beauty, of power, of grand majesty, described by
Jesus as a paradise.

Don't let the enemy steal that away from you by keeping you from
acknowledging your sin and asking forgiveness from Jesus so that you too
can be saved, and enter into that Kingdom prepared for you.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen,
is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink
of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

And here is the eternal destruction of those with the mark:

==> 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice,
If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his
mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
==> 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which
is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation;
and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the
presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
==> 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever:
and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and
his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Faith brings patience:

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep
the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
==> 13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed
are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith
the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their
works do follow them.
14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one
sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown,
and in his hand a sharp sickle.
15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud
voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and
reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of
the earth is ripe.
16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth;
and the earth was reaped.
17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he
also having a sharp sickle.
18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over
fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle,
saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of
the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.
19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered
the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of
the wrath of God.
20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came
out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space
of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

2,600 furlongs is approximately 325 miles.

>> The whole goal comes down to this:
>>
>>      1) Everybody has sin
>>      2) Everybody will face judgment
>>      3) Everybody needs Jesus
>>      4) Jesus offers forgiveness for sin for free to everybody
>

> I don't know how many days, weeks, months, years are ahead for Christians

> on this planet before the rapture. My money is on a date before May 14,
> 2021, but I don't know what day.
>
> Everything is accelerating world-wide toward the one world government
> system, and that "revving up" is one of the signs that when we see all
> these things together at the same time, and they're getting faster and
> faster, Jesus likens it to a woman in labor, the labor pains grow in
> frequency and intensity until ... delivery.
>
> Repeat these words before it's too late:
>
>     "Dear Heavenly Father, I have sinned. I am guilty before you.
>      I need a Savior, and I ask you to forgive my sin through the
>      sacrifice of your Son Jesus on the cross. I ask you to cleanse
>      me of my sin by His righteous blood shed for me. I believe that
>      He died, was buried, and on the third day resurrected and is
>      alive today, seated at the right hand of power and glory. Amen."
>
> Nobody wants to be here on this Earth for what's coming. For most
> world-wide, Revelation teaches it will be their terminal end because the
> anti-Christ spirit that rises up corrupts everything, resulting in
> destruction of everything. Jesus even says if those final days weren't
> cut short, no flesh would survive. Not just people, but all flesh,
> animals, plants, birds, fish, and people.
>
> "Board the ark" of Jesus Christ. Save yourself from the coming
> destruction.

Jesus gives us every opportunity to come to Him. He calls out to us
from within. He sends men and women like me out into the world to teach
people to warn them of their sin, their need of salvation, to warn of
what's coming unto the whole Earth.

Judgment will come for everybody, and everybody will be without excuse
when the evidence of their life is presented. It will be like a 4D
hologram from birth to death being replayed. It will show every
decision, every action, things done in public, things done in secret.
All of it will be 100% revealed before the court of God, where every
soul who was not saved (by the Lamb, by Jesus and His death, burial, and
resurrection, by His blood) will be judged.

Those who are saved by the Lamb have all of their misdeeds transferred
to Jesus at the cross, and those deeds died with Him once and for all.
He became the murderer. He became the adulterer. He became the liar.
He became the thief. He became every sin we've ever done in our place,
so that we could be set free.

It's who Jesus is. It's why He came to the Earth as a man, and died on
the cross as He did. He did it to set the many free who would believe
in Him, to rescue us from the judgment of God.

He becomes our sin. We become His spotless righteousness.

Consider these things. Ponder on them. Think of them in the car. Talk
them over with yourself in the mirror when you are alone, without the
radio or TV or other distraction. Call out to God and ask Him to reveal
these things to you so you too can know the truth, and that truth will
make you free.

I love you. I teach you the truth. I warn you of what's coming because
I do not want you to go through it. I want you to escape it by putting
your faith and trust in Jesus Christ today, right now, this instant, so
that when the rapture comes, or when we leave this world by death, we
are already set free and alive forever having been redeemed by Jesus at
the cross.

Peace to each of you. There is victory at the cross.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jan 3, 2021, 8:14:51 PM1/3/21

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[...]

Did you try to talk to 200 people in the store? Or, were you just
looking at their eyes?

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jan 3, 2021, 8:18:21 PM1/3/21

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On 1/3/2021 4:27 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 1/3/21 6:36 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> I went out to the grocery tonight. It's about 6:30 pm here in
>> Indiana. And the people were terrified. Nobody would look other
>> people in the eye. They were avoiding them like the plague. There
>> wasn't even courteous head bobs and what not between people.
>> Everybody was in full isolation mode, and nobody save the smallest
>> handful of people who you could see it in their eyes, had
>> friendliness, or love, or common courtesy in their dealings with people.
>>
>> Over the probably 200 people I encountered in the store, 3 were
>> friendly and cordial.
>
> One other thing to note. This was probably encouraged by the PA system
> which sounded like a disaster warning. "Shoppers are required to wear
> masks at all times. You will not be able to remain in the store without
> your mask."
>
> We're all being trained, people. The enemy is teaching you all unaware
> that the mark of the beast is the only way to move forward.
>
> I'm going to teach you the truth here:
>
> 1) Everyone who takes the mark of the beast is eternally damned.
> 2) The mark will be something on your right-hand or forehead.

>[...]

You are RADIALLY misinterpreting the bible here. Sorry.

Rick C. Hodgin

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Many of you may have become so tangled up in societal guidance on how to
live and be that you've lost sight of what the Biblical teaching is and
why it's important.

Here's an excellent sermon by an excellent Biblical scholar teacher
(John Barnett). He teaches the truth of the Bible without making you
feel guilty, but more as a teacher teaching knowledge. The teaching
helps you understand the disparity that exists between where you might
be right now, and where God calls you to be in this world.

And as always, it's a calling back to Him with full forgiveness
awaiting. No judgment. No shame. It's expected that people in this
world will do things contrary to God's will until they come to knowledge
of God, which is something that happens on the inside. Barnett says
Christianity's not paint. It's not a coating. It permeates.

God does the work of cleaning up a person's life. We first come to Him
acknowledging that we're broken because of sin. He fixes us, and then
He begins restoring us to what He would have us be in this world.

The things you've gone through are unique. You could reach people I
could never reach. God works with all of us pulling together to be a
part of His Kingdom.

True Citizens of Heaven Have Biblical Convictions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVtHRwwH-HM

-----
The following content is to consider again after you've watched the
sermon. Please post any questions.

And remember this: You are so deeply loved. It's why God sends men and
women like me to remind you of Him. You won't hear about Him in the
world, because this world is perishing. You will hear about life from
those who bring life, which are those who point the way to Jesus because
He is that life. Even life eternal.

On 1/3/21 7:27 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> I'm going to teach you the truth here:
>
>     1) Everyone who takes the mark of the beast is eternally damned.
>     2) The mark will be something on your right-hand or forehead.
>     3) Nobody world-wide will be able to buy or sell unless they have
>         the mark.
>     4) This will require strong faith to not take it.
>     5) God promises all who do not take it for His sake will be saved,
>         though they'll likely have to die (or be killed) for their
>         faith.
>
> Here are the Bible verses which back that up. The relevant portions are
> highlighted with a ==>:
>

> Revelation 13, 14
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2013&version=KJV;NASB
> https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation%2014&version=KJV;NASB

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jan 3, 2021, 11:30:33 PM1/3/21

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On 1/3/2021 8:26 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> Many of you may have become so tangled up in societal guidance on how to
> live and be that you've lost sight of what the Biblical teaching is and
> why it's important.

[...]

The mark of the beast is in your head. Are you going to listen to the
devil? The mark of the beast is not a mark on your hand, or anything
like that.

Juha Nieminen

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Jan 4, 2021, 2:23:25 AM1/4/21

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In comp.lang.c++ Rick C. Hodgin <rick.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1/3/21 12:58 PM, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
>> I encourage people to consider seriously the vaccine. It modifies
>> messenger RNA which ultimately changes what proteins are generated in
>> your body, which can also indirectly affect your literal DNA.
>>
>> This is the first ever vaccine that's ever been authorized using this
>> technology. And they're distributing it to everybody world-wide.
>>
>> There have already been deaths within hours or days after taking the
>> vaccine. Elderly people have died within two hours of getting the
>> vaccine. So far they say it's unrelated. But also many people of all
>> ages have gotten demonstrably sick after taking it.

You are a spammer, a conspiracy theorist, a liar, an asshole and a complete
hypocrite who doesn't even follow the very scriptures you are trying to
impose onto other people. Even your god, if he existed, would be disgusted
by you.

The more you write about your religion, the more disgusted I am of it.
You are having the exact opposite effect of what you want. You are driving
people away from your religion, not towards it. And no, your words do not
work as a magical incantation that will somehow make your god act upon
people, like you probably believe. They only make people angry and disgusted
towards you, because you are nothing but a spammer and a hypocrite.

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On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 17:14:35 -0800
"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Did you try to talk to 200 people in the store? Or, were you just
> looking at their eyes?

Chris, I don't know why you keep doing this, but please shut the fuck
up. This guy doesn't need useful idiots.

Kenny McCormack

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In article <20210104210237.a4a63c422f55ccb848d828da@cvine--nospam--.freeserve.co.uk>,

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Every time a Republican gets caught doing something illegal (i.e., just about every
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1) "I didn't do it" (Standard denial, which of course only cult-members pay any attention to)
2) "Here's how I did it and why I did it and why it shouldn't matter to you and why you should go back to watching sports on TV"

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On 1/5/21 3:16 AM, Juha Nieminen wrote:
> Go away, hypocrite. You don't even follow yourself your own scripture.

You make this claim often. In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Anton Shepelev

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Jan 5, 2021, 12:42:05 PM1/5/21

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Rick C. Hodgin:

> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?

Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
have given you a beating or called the police.

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Rick C. Hodgin

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On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
>
>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
>
> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
> have given you a beating or called the police.

These are public forums. It's the equivalent of a person standing on
the street corner speaking. You're free to pass on by. You're not free
to not encounter such people in public spaces.

If a person were to send you private email, that's an issue where the
police could get involved because that would be like that person
following you around personally and individually.

The messages I post are not directed at individuals, except in response
to them engaging me.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Bart

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Jan 5, 2021, 2:33:13 PM1/5/21

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On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
>> Rick C. Hodgin:
>>
>>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
>>
>> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
>> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
>> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
>> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
>> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
>> have given you a beating or called the police.
>
> These are public forums. It's the equivalent of a person standing on
> the street corner speaking.

No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in
a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in
some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some
religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It
just pisses everyone off.

For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

Rick C. Hodgin

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Jan 5, 2021, 2:45:49 PM1/5/21

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On 1/5/21 2:32 PM, Bart wrote:
> On 05/01/2021 17:48, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> > On 1/5/21 12:41 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> >> Rick C. Hodgin:
> >>
> >>> In what way am I a hypocrite, Juha?
> >>
> >> Perhaps in the way that you continue annoying people
> >> with your unsolicited, off-topic messages, which may
> >> be thought as a form of aggression, as any misconduct
> >> stubbornly continued in spite of requests to cease
> >> and desist. Had you done it off-line, people would
> >> have given you a beating or called the police.
> >
> > These are public forums. It's the equivalent of a person standing on
> > the street corner speaking.
>
> No it isn't. It's the equivalent of a programming user group meeting in
> a public hall, where everyone is welcome to come and /discuss coding/ in
> some language or other, but which keeps getting interrupted by some
> religious nutter spouting his beliefs.

Not a public hall. It's an outdoor meeting place. Anyone can step into
this group and post. It could be taken over by spammers, for example,
who want to talk about painting. As long as they ignored the calls of
the regulars to stop talking about painting, and just kept talking about
it, it would be taken over.

If these groups were moderated, then it would be like being in a public
hall because the owner of the university or facility or whatever could
stop in and say, "Leave" and would have standing with the police to have
their request enforced.

> There are public places to do your evangelising, but this isn't it. It
> just pisses everyone off.
>
> For example, you can try speaking on a street corner...

What makes you think I don't, Bart? I've mentioned a dozen times I talk
about Jesus wherever I am. I wear a hat that says "Jesus Inside" like
the Intel logo. I make choice in my life, sir.

-----
To be clear: Christians walk a fine line. We're commanded by God to
teach people about sin, their need of salvation, about Jesus, and to
also be in the world.

People priority on today, what their eyes see and their belly wants.
They don't consider eternity. But eternity is infinity:1 more important
than the here and now because it goes on forever.

Everyone, literally every last person, who has shunned me in these
groups, and who doesn't come to faith in Jesus Christ, is going to lash
out at me on the day of judgment yelling at me, demanding to know why I
didn't try harder to save their soul.

It's that fine line Christians walk. But we remember also, the message
isn't for those who won't be saved. It's for those who will. And
believe it or not, there are people who communicate with me that they
are moved by these posts. It is making a difference in people's lives.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Anton Shepelev

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Jan 5, 2021, 4:10:05 PM1/5/21

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Rick C. Hodgin:

> Not a public hall. It's an outdoor meeting place. Anyone
> can step into this group and post.

Yes, anyone can do it, but he may not if the post is off-
topic:

https://benpfaff.org/writings/clc/off-topic.html

Anyone can throw stones at windows, run away from
restaurants without paying, steal from supermarkets, or
whatever nasty think you imagine. There is only one
difference that I can see -- a high possibility of real
punishment. But we all know that it is only evil people that
abstain from doing wrong for fear of punishment. Normal
people abstain from it because... it is wrong. In which
category do you belong?

> If these groups were moderated, then it would be like
> being in a public hall because the owner of the university
> or facility or whatever could stop in and say, "Leave" and
> would have standing with the police to have their request
> enforced.

Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
of thug are you?

Keith Thompson

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Jan 5, 2021, 4:19:21 PM1/5/21

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Anton Shepelev <anto...@gmail.com> writes:
> Rick C. Hodgin:
[snip]

> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Rick has made it abundantly clear, repeatedly over several years,
that he will continue to spam. Please do not waste everyone else's
time arguing with him in public. If you want to complain to him,
he posts with a valid email address. If you want to complain *about*
him, please don't do it here.

Those who bypass my filters by replying to his spam risk having their
own posts filtered as well.

--
Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.T...@gmail.com
Working, but not speaking, for Philips Healthcare
void Void(void) { Void(); } /* The recursive call of the void */

Rick C. Hodgin

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Jan 5, 2021, 8:48:09 PM1/5/21

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On 1/5/21 4:09 PM, Anton Shepelev wrote:
> Do you mean you will not behave unless forced to? What kind
> of thug are you?

Anton, I can apologize to you for coming across harsh or rude or
whatever other way you see me. I am compassionate and care about people
and I don't want them to be angry with me.

But consider...

What if I'm right? What if sin exists, Jesus is real, judgment is
coming, and the way out is through forgiveness of sin by Jesus Christ?

How much more would I have to hate you, and to be a thug to you, to NOT
warn you about these things? And to not warn you significantly about them?

The fact is: Jesus is real. Sin is real. Judgment is coming.

These messages go forth so that you will be able to hear the warning and
take corrective action with the course of your life.

Is the enemy of God, the anti-Christ spirit, who would label me warning
people about coming judgment as some kind of wrong thing to do, because
the spirit of God cries out to every human soul continually, knocking at
the door saying, "Come to me and I will forgive you. I will make you
whole!"

There was a preacher who rode on horseback back in the 1800s. A famous
preacher from England. He said it best:

"If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our
dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms
wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must
be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and
let not one go unwarned and unprayed for."

-- C.H. Spurgeon

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/98/93/f9/9893f94336c2e20d01099c2dbdb81a37.jpg

I care about you enough to warn you. I don't warn all the time. I warn
when things come up that are topical. CHRISTmas. This changing world.
The coming rapture. The preparation for the mark of the beast and
one-world government system.

These are the things that spark me to move, because I already have a
foundational caring for each of you in my soul.

--
Rick C. Hodgin

Mr Flibble

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Jan 6, 2021, 8:13:10 AM1/6/21

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On 06/01/2021 01:47, Rick C. Hodgin wrote:
> The fact is: Jesus is real. Sin is real. Judgment is coming.

Arnold Ziffel

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Jan 7, 2021, 5:56:59 AM1/7/21

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In comp.lang.c Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.t...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah... It is idiotic to converse with him. I have a problem. Damn. For
> some reason, he has a fairly strong ability to get my goat, so to speak.

What can't you just killfile him?

--
In a mad world, only greater madness succeeds.

Chris M. Thomasson

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Jan 7, 2021, 2:51:00 PM1/7/21

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On 1/7/2021 2:56 AM, Arnold Ziffel wrote:
> In comp.lang.c Chris M. Thomasson <chris.m.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah... It is idiotic to converse with him. I have a problem. Damn. For
>> some reason, he has a fairly strong ability to get my goat, so to speak.
>
> What can't you just killfile him?
>

Yeah... Shit. Well, I have never actually killfiled somebody. Back in
the day, decades ago, I said PLONK! But, never actually did it.