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Antti Juhani Ylikoski

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May 16, 2018, 1:20:52 PM5/16/18
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There is here, North Europe, a computer science magazine called the
Skrolli. See http://www.skrolli.fi. They run an IE, an International
Edition, in English.

The Skrolli back issues are on that web site as .pdf files. They are
under http://www.skrolli/numerot/.

In one Skrolli issue, there was there an article about the various
useful and usable free BASIC systems. (Here I cannot recall, which
Skrolli issue.)

1. The QB64. They are http://qb64.org.

2. FreeBASIC. They are https://www.freebasic.net/

3. KBasic, or, q7basic. They are http://www.q7basic.org/index.html

4. MS Small BASIC. They are http://smallbasic.com/

yours, AJY
Europe



Auric__

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May 16, 2018, 2:20:49 PM5/16/18
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Antti Juhani Ylikoski wrote:

> There is here, North Europe, a computer science magazine called the
> Skrolli. See http://www.skrolli.fi. They run an IE, an International
> Edition, in English.
>
> The Skrolli back issues are on that web site as .pdf files. They are
> under http://www.skrolli/numerot/.
>
> In one Skrolli issue, there was there an article about the various
> useful and usable free BASIC systems. (Here I cannot recall, which
> Skrolli issue.)

I actually posted reviews of all of these in the dim recesses of the past,
summarized as such:

> 1. The QB64. They are http://qb64.org.

Overly-large executables and weeeeeeeeeeeird Basic-to-C++ translation.

> 2. FreeBASIC. They are https://www.freebasic.net/

Usable. Could be better, but it's good enough for "serious" work.

> 3. KBasic, or, q7basic. They are http://www.q7basic.org/index.html

I've never been able to get modern Q7 to work properly, but I haven't tried
recently. The Mac-specific compiler from the same guy, Objective-Basic, has
*bad* licensing requirements for the free version:

Free and without support for non-commercial developers at home. You get
the product for free and you must release products for free under the
license of GPL Version 3 as published by the Free Software Foundation.

That makes Objective-Basic the only compiler I've ever seen that forces a
license on your code.

> 4. MS Small BASIC. They are http://smallbasic.com/

MSSB isn't very useful IMHO. Useful for absolute beginners or for making toy
programs, but not much else.

--
I wouldn't want to work for you or do business with you
because you're a conniving bastard.

Antti Juhani Ylikoski

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May 16, 2018, 3:04:51 PM5/16/18
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Excerpt: (from the .signature file)


"I wouldn't want to work for you or do business with you because
you're a conniving bastard."

Who is a "conniving" "bastard"?


My dictionary:

"connive"

verb


MEANINGS


1. secretly allow (something immoral, illegal, or harmful) to occur.

"government officials were prepared to connive in impending the course
of justice"

synonyms: deliberately ignore, overlook, not take into consideration,
disregard, pass over, gloss over, take no notice of, take no account
of, make allowances for, turn a blind eye to, close/shut one's eyes
to, wink at, blink at, excuse, pardon, forgive, condone, let someone
off with, let go, let pass


2. conspire to do something immoral, illegal, or harmful

"she connived with a senior official to rig the results of last year's
election" synonyms: conspire, collude, be in collusion, collaborate,
intrigue, be hand in glove, plot, participate in a conspiracy, scheme


What are the immoral, illegal, or harmful thing(s) that have taken
place?

Who conspired to do them, and how?


A "bastard" is a person of illegitimate heritage. I do not have an
illegitimate heritage, an illegitimate family tree.

Who is of illegitimate heritage?


A "bastard" can be use as a pejorative word: "F*ck you, you F*cking
F*ck!!!!"


Explain.


Dr A. J. Y.
Europe


Auric__

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May 16, 2018, 5:56:56 PM5/16/18
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Antti Juhani Ylikoski wrote:

> On 16/05/18 19:20, Auric__ wrote:
[snip]
> Excerpt: (from the .signature file)
>
> "I wouldn't want to work for you or do business with you because
> you're a conniving bastard."
>
> Who is a "conniving" "bastard"?
[snip]

Why are you replying to my sig? You do realize that has nothing to do with my
post, right? It's randomly selected from my quotefile, which has over 16,000
quotes, and I rarely even notice it before I hit send. Have you truly seen
nothing else that I've ever posted over the last 14 years (since I wrote my
sigmonster)?

--
- What happened?
- ...Plague.
- Plague?!
- All sudden-like.

ralph

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May 17, 2018, 9:28:17 AM5/17/18
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On Wed, 16 May 2018 18:20:49 -0000 (UTC), "Auric__"
<not.m...@email.address> wrote:
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>> 4. MS Small BASIC. They are http://smallbasic.com/
>
>MSSB isn't very useful IMHO. Useful for absolute beginners or for making toy
>programs, but not much else.

Trivial adddition. Small C is often found in small niche ad
hoc/business/machine applications as a "scripting" language. Easily
integration, close to zero learning curve, with a dinky footprint.

Marcos Cruz

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Jun 15, 2018, 2:31:48 PM6/15/18
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En/Je/On 2018-05-16, Antti Juhani Ylikoski
<antti.y...@windowslive.com> escribi'o/skribis/wrote:

> useful and usable free BASIC systems.
>
> 1. The QB64. They are http://qb64.org.
>
> 2. FreeBASIC. They are https://www.freebasic.net/
>
> 3. KBasic, or, q7basic. They are http://www.q7basic.org/index.html
>
> 4. MS Small BASIC. They are http://smallbasic.com/

I think Markus Hoffmann's X11-Basic is a very good one: powerful,
versatile and well documented:

http://x11-basic.sourceforge.net

Antti Ylikoski

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