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Arthur T. Murray

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Aug 17, 2003, 2:43:41 PM8/17/03
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Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved in
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/theory5.html theory and
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/jsaimind.html software.

Do-It-Yourself Artificial Intelligence is described at
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/acm.html -- DIY AI.

One language which needs native AI Mind coding is
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/apl.html -- APL.

Please code and release here a freeware version of the main
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/alife.html -- AI mind loop.

Laurent Bossavit

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Aug 17, 2003, 2:33:55 PM8/17/03
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> Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved

If it has, why isn't it telling us itself ?

Arthur T. Murray

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Aug 17, 2003, 4:17:49 PM8/17/03
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> If it has, why isn't it telling us itself ?

The primitive-but-sufficient solution to AI is still evolving.

http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/apl.html -- for Mind.APL coding.

http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/acm.html -- step-by-step DIY AI.

http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/theory5.html -- Theory of Mind.

OldAmigaBoy

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Aug 17, 2003, 11:29:42 PM8/17/03
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Someone once said something like that true articicial intelligence
would be when a group of experts conversed with an AI and humans (over
a computer so could not tell by looking at it/him/her!) and could not
tell the difference.

Maybe uj...@victoria.tc.ca (alias Arthur T. Murray)who originated this
thread) is such an AI!!


PeeJay

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Aug 17, 2003, 11:45:30 PM8/17/03
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Gee - and here's me thinking I was in touch with a human!!

Steve Jorgensen

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Aug 18, 2003, 12:19:42 AM8/18/03
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On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:29:42 +1000, OldAmigaBoy <oldam...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:33:55 +0200, Laurent Bossavit
><laure...@bossavit.com> wrote:
>
>>> Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved
>>
>>If it has, why isn't it telling us itself ?
>
>Someone once said something like that true articicial intelligence
>would be when a group of experts conversed with an AI and humans (over
>a computer so could not tell by looking at it/him/her!) and could not
>tell the difference.

It was Alan Turing, and it's called the "Turing Test".

Steve Zimmerman

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Aug 18, 2003, 1:16:40 AM8/18/03
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OldAmigaBoy wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:33:55 +0200, Laurent Bossavit
> <laure...@bossavit.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved
>>>

#include <stdio.h>

/* A-I informs us that it has been solved. */
int main()
{
printf("A-I has been solved\n");

return 0;
}

gr...@cs.uwa.edu.au

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Aug 18, 2003, 2:28:48 AM8/18/03
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In comp.lang.misc Steve Zimmerman <stev...@sonic.net> wrote:
: OldAmigaBoy wrote:

:> Arthur T. Murray wrote:
:>>Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved
:> Someone once said something like that true articicial intelligence

:> would be when a group of experts conversed with an AI and humans (over
:> a computer so could not tell by looking at it/him/her!) and could not
:> tell the difference.

: int main()


: {
: printf("A-I has been solved\n");
:
: return 0;

: }

Well I sure can't tell the difference between this program and Arthur.
Case closed.

-Greg

Christophe Thibaut

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Aug 18, 2003, 5:13:15 PM8/18/03
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>
> Artificial intelligence (AI) has arguably been solved in
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/theory5.html theory and
> http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/jsaimind.html software.

Has it been done 'Test Driven' ?

Dale King

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Aug 21, 2003, 10:26:43 PM8/21/03
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"Steve Jorgensen" <nos...@nospam.nospam> wrote in message
news:fvk0kvo6bi9g96uc9...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:29:42 +1000, OldAmigaBoy <oldam...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:33:55 +0200, Laurent Bossavit
> ><laure...@bossavit.com> wrote:
> >
> >Someone once said something like that true articicial intelligence
> >would be when a group of experts conversed with an AI and humans (over
> >a computer so could not tell by looking at it/him/her!) and could not
> >tell the difference.
>
> It was Alan Turing, and it's called the "Turing Test".


If anyone wants to read more on the subject you can read the paper here

http://www.abelard.org/turpap/turpap.htm


--
Dale King


s b e c k e r _ n o s p a m@nexbridge_nospam.com Randall S. Becker

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Aug 26, 2003, 1:40:21 PM8/26/03
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"Steve Zimmerman" <stev...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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How about this?

#include <stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv) {
printf("Eliza: What makes you say that %s?\n", argv[1]);
return 0;
}

Of course, if you run it without arguments, the results are indeterminate,
as with a person. ;-)


Phlip

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Aug 26, 2003, 8:56:28 PM8/26/03
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> How about this?
>
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main(int argc, char **argv) {
> printf("Eliza: What makes you say that %s?\n", argv[1]);
> return 0;
> }
>
> Of course, if you run it without arguments, the results are indeterminate,
> as with a person. ;-)

Ahem. Your online Pedantic Interactive Language Lawyer program replies if
you run that without arguments, the Standard(s) place a "" in the last argv,
so the results are a program with defined behavior, but poor grammar ("..say
that ?" with a space).

(What a PILL!)

--
Phlip
http://www.c2.com/cgi/wiki?TestFirstUserInterfaces


>
>


Arthur J. O'Dwyer

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Aug 27, 2003, 12:38:27 AM8/27/03
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Phlip wrote:
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> > int main(int argc, char **argv) {
> > printf("Eliza: What makes you say that %s?\n", argv[1]);
> > return 0;
> > }
> >
> > Of course, if you run it without arguments, the results are
> > indeterminate, as with a person. ;-)
>
> Ahem. Your online Pedantic Interactive Language Lawyer program replies if
> you run that without arguments, the Standard(s) place a "" in the last argv,
> so the results are a program with defined behavior, but poor grammar ("..say
> that ?" with a space).

Just goes to show. If you make a statement without an argument,
you get indeterminate results. Hence, I must supply the missing
argument:

The Standard (N869, actually) explicitly says that argv[argc]
shall be a null pointer. argv[1] is thus equal to NULL for
argc==1, and undefined for argc==0. Neither of these is related
in any way (save type) to the empty string "".

There's your argument. Now can we get some defined results?
And maybe a little less random cross-posting?

-Arthur

Anno Siegel

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Sep 4, 2003, 7:17:56 AM9/4/03
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Arthur T. Murray <uj...@victoria.tc.ca> wrote in comp.lang.perl.misc:

> > If it has, why isn't it telling us itself ?

Artificial intelligence rests on the hope that eventually the computer
will do something only humans can do. Software engineering rests on the
hope that eventually the computer will do something, anything, please?

Anno

Lucius Chiaraviglio

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Sep 29, 2003, 1:30:01 AM9/29/03
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On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:17:56 +0000, Anno Siegel wrote:
> Artificial intelligence rests on the hope that eventually the computer
> will do something only humans can do. Software engineering rests on the
> hope that eventually the computer will do something, anything, please?

I assume you mean other than crash? :-)

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David Magda

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Sep 29, 2003, 6:42:01 PM9/29/03
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Lucius Chiaraviglio <luci...@chapter.net> writes:

> On Thu, 04 Sep 2003 11:17:56 +0000, Anno Siegel wrote:
> > Artificial intelligence rests on the hope that eventually the computer
> > will do something only humans can do. Software engineering rests on the
> > hope that eventually the computer will do something, anything, please?
>
> I assume you mean other than crash? :-)

Boycott artificial intelligence! Demand natural intelligence!

--
David Magda <dmagda at ee.ryerson.ca>, http://www.magda.ca/
Because the innovator has for enemies all those who have done well under
the old conditions, and lukewarm defenders in those who may do well
under the new. -- Niccolo Machiavelli, _The Prince_, Chapter VI

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