What Can We do About AdaHome.com

Richard Riehle

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Jun 16, 2003, 2:02:48 AM6/16/03

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One of my students used AdaHome.com as a bibliographic
reference in a recent paper turned in to me. I noted that
AdaHome is no longer a viable source of up-to-date information
about Ada. He corrected the reference.

The problem is that AdaHome continues to be a bad choice
for anyone trying to get current information about Ada. How
can we correct this problem?

Richard Riehle

Preben Randhol

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Jun 16, 2003, 3:57:48 AM6/16/03

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Perhaps one could write to Kempe Software Capital Enterprises =>
http://www.ksce.com/ and ask if one could get to some sort of agreement?

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John McCabe

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Jun 16, 2003, 5:09:53 AM6/16/03

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On Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:02:48 -0700, Richard Riehle
<ric...@adaworks.com> wrote:

>One of my students used AdaHome.com as a bibliographic
>reference in a recent paper turned in to me. I noted that
>AdaHome is no longer a viable source of up-to-date information
>about Ada.

How can you say that - it's only 4.5 years since the "Bookworm's Lair"
page was updated, 7 years since the "Top 5" award was, err, awarded
etc ;-)

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John McCabe

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Martin Dowie

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Jun 16, 2003, 6:11:35 AM6/16/03

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Richard Riehle <ric...@adaworks.com> wrote in message news:<3EED5D88...@adaworks.com>...

We could try and get the web page to automatically redirect
visitors to either AdaPower or AdaIC...

Jeffrey Creem

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Jun 16, 2003, 6:55:56 AM6/16/03

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Both David Botton and I have tried to address this in the past.

We have each sent e-mail to the domain owner to no avail.

We have each tried (and failed) to buy the domain around renewal time. (Last
time it was more than 2 weeks
after the expiration date before it was renewed).

The most important thing we can all do is to be sure to NOT include links to
the site on any of our sites. Google (and other engines) use this to help
score the page.

Unfortunately, google also appears to use time since last update as well and
that site has an auto generated "headlines" date that changes every day.

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Alexander Kopilovitch

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Jun 16, 2003, 9:13:11 AM6/16/03

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Preben Randhol wrote:
>Richard Riehle wrote:
>...

>> The problem is that AdaHome continues to be a bad choice
>> for anyone trying to get current information about Ada. How
>> can we correct this problem?
>
>Perhaps one could write to Kempe Software Capital Enterprises =>
>http://www.ksce.com/ and ask if one could get to some sort of agreement?

I just glanced there and didn't find on this page any way to contact the owner.
So perhaps better method to deal with the problem is to spread a rumor in some
crackers circles that the AdaHome site is so strongly fortified site that it
cannot be defaced.

David C. Hoos

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Jun 16, 2003, 9:21:36 AM6/16/03

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The "Who Is" record for the site yields:

Registrant:
Kempe Software Capital Enterprises (ADAHOME-DOM)
Prairie 9
Gland, CH 1196
CH

Domain Name: ADAHOME.COM

Administrative Contact:
Kempe, Magnus (MK1755) M.K...@IEEE.ORG
KSCE Ada Home
rte d'Essertine
Pailly, CH 1416
CH
+41 21 887 8442

"Alexander Kopilovitch" <a...@vib.usr.pu.ru> wrote in message
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David Botton

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Jun 16, 2003, 9:39:02 AM6/16/03

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> Both David Botton and I have tried to address this in the past.
>
> We have each sent e-mail to the domain owner to no avail.

Better than that, I offered to purchase it directly from him after he
renewed! No dice.

David Botton

Georg Bauhaus

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Jun 16, 2003, 12:42:48 PM6/16/03

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Alexander Kopilovitch <a...@vib.usr.pu.ru> wrote:

That might lead to the loss of valuable information on that site.
Has someone collected the material, as far as law allows?

-- Georg

Randy Brukardt

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Jun 16, 2003, 6:22:13 PM6/16/03

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Preben Randhol wrote in message ...

>Richard Riehle wrote:
>> One of my students used AdaHome.com as a bibliographic
>> reference in a recent paper turned in to me. I noted that
>> AdaHome is no longer a viable source of up-to-date information
>> about Ada. He corrected the reference.
>>
>> The problem is that AdaHome continues to be a bad choice
>> for anyone trying to get current information about Ada. How
>> can we correct this problem?
>
>Perhaps one could write to Kempe Software Capital Enterprises =>
>http://www.ksce.com/ and ask if one could get to some sort of
agreement?

I tried that; I would have even tried to get the ARA to provide some
money if that was necessary. But he doesn't seem to want to tell anyone
what he actually wants.

Anyway, I've been campaigning to eliminate as many links as possible to
AdaHome. That should cause it to drop down (or off) of the Google search
engine results, which seems to be about all we can do.

(And, of course, when searching for Ada related info, use the Ada wide
search engine at http://www.adaic.com/site/wide-search.html - you can
include AdaHome in those searches, but it is not included by default.)

If you know of any web sites that link to Ada Home, ask the web master
to find alternative links. Feel free to have them contact me; I've found
alternatives for nearly everything. (For instance, the Lovelace tutorial
is hosted at a number of other places, the author has moved the
"official" version to another site. Don't link to the Ada Home version.)

Randy.